Star Wars Land
Hi all, I know Star Wars Land is slated to open in 2019. Does anyone know the exact dates? Also, will it open first in Disneyland or Disney World?
Still being so far off, picking exact dates is extremely difficult. However, Disney has been clear that the Disneyland version of Galaxy's Edge would open first, and current construction progress would back that up. If you absolutely had to commit to a date today, I wouldn't pick anything before Memorial Day for Disneyland's opening or anything before July 4th for DHS. It's likely that both lands will be open before Memorial Day weekend to accommodate summer crowds, and it's inevitable that both will soft open in the weeks preceding their official unveiling, but I would not bet a costly vacation on that. Plus, as every recent major Disney and Universal attraction opening has shown, ride capacity and efficiency are extremely low during the first few months of operation, so even if you happen to pick the grand opening date 18 months out, you're likely to be standing in long lines and extreme crowds as people jam the parks to get a first glimpse at the new lands. Waiting a couple of months not only protects against project delays, but can be valuable to avoid some of the initial overcrowding. We have deliberately planned our Orlando trips in the fall for Hogsmeade, Diagon Alley, and Pandora, and have been pleased with our decisions to do so based on reports from the first months after each of those lands opened. Yes, it's still crowded 4-6 months after a major expansion opens, but the crowds are much more manageable, and attractions are more reliably operating at or close to peak capacity. Both versions of Galaxy's Edge are guaranteed to draw historic crowds to Disneyland and DHS, so waiting a few months for the buzz to die down is a valuable strategy, especially when a theme park vacation can be so expensive theses days.
Thank you Russell. How long will Star Wars be open for in Disneyland before it opens in Disney World?
It's anyone's guess, but I think it's safe to say that both lands will be fully armed and operational before the end of summer 2019. I don't think you'll see DL's version open more than 3-4 months before DHS's. Their construction timelines have been about 3 months apart with DHS topping off structural steel a couple of weeks ago, while DL topped out in August.
It will be open in December 31, 2019 for sure.
Thank you for all the information!
There are no exact dates because Disney doesn't have exact dates. Opening dates usually aren't finalized until an attraction enters testing, and Star Wars Land is still over a year from that point. I previously heard that the Disneyland one would open in Spring 2019 (specifically in time for Episode IX's premiere before it got pushed back), and DHS's would be Fall 2019 (said to be about 6 months behind Disneyland's). That is about as specific as things get right now.
Thanks AJ. Is Disneyland still slated to open 6 months before Disney World?
According to the latest I've heard, yes. If everything goes well, Disneyland will likely begin doing previews in early 2019 with a grand opening in the spring. DHS's will most likely open shortly after the end of peak season in Florida.
Sounds good. What would be considered the end of peak season? Also, what are the main attractions in Star Wars Land? Will Disneyland and Disney World share the same attractions?
Summer peak season in Florida is from Memorial Day to mid-August. If I had to guess right now, I would say September for the land's opening in Florida (so that it can be tied into Episode IX marketing), but it very well could open a bit earlier. Mid/late July is probably the absolute earliest, though it makes more sense to open it after peak season rather than 2/3 of the way through it.
Sounds awesome! Thanks AJ!
When are Tron, Mickey ride, and Ratatouille supposed to open? When will Marvel land open in California Adventure?
Everything announced for Florida will be open by 2021. Most speculation indicates 2019 for Mickey, 2020 for Ratatouille, and 2021 for Tron and Guardians, but that could always change.
How come Marvel Land is getting pushed back? Since Disney World are getting all these new rides, what else is Disneyland getting other than Star Wars?
Due to the cancellation of the Eastern Gateway, Marvel Land is being reworked to take over Bugs Land rather than Hollywood Land. This requires extra time in design. Furthermore, when the Eastern Gateway ran into trouble Disney put a hold on all expansions that had not started construction until the infrastructure problems could be resolved. Presumably that hold has now been lifted, but I haven't heard anything reliable on the project since the summer. I also wouldn't be surprised if Disney is investing so heavily in Florida that they're waiting until after the 50th there before the next major project in California. Either way, it's entirely possible Marvel Land could only be delayed a year or so, but it's also possible it may not happen until the mid-2020s.
So it sounds like Disneyland is focusing more on Star Wars. Which is smart. Since it will be extremely popular. I was just curious, since Florida is getting so many new projects. Why not focus on Disneyland as well? Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway would be a nice addition to Toontown. Speaking of Toontown, I heard rumors Disneyland was getting ride of it. Do you still see that happening? If so, what may take it place?
@timbo23 - I'm not sure why you're being so obsessive about this. Disney has made a number of formal announcements that are pretty easy to Google, and anything outside of that is mere conjecture/rumor. Given the length of time it takes for Disney to design and build new attractions (even overlays), it's not worth mulling over date-specific details of something that's 18 months or longer away from opening, or attractions/overlays that haven't even been announced or broken ground.
"I would go with AJ's suggestion to get a season pass and plan on coming to the parks multiple days/weeks as the projects near completion."
The cancellation of the Eastern Gateway essentially required Disney to go back and re-evaluate everything planned for after Star Wars Land. As a result, some projects are still happening as planned, some have gotten rescheduled, and some have gotten replaced or cancelled. Additionally, the delay of the Los Angeles Olympics to 2028 rather than 2024 has removed some of the pressure for immediate improvement, so major projects have a little less urgency so they remain fresher at that time.
I'm glad to hear about the Bug's Life area making way for Marvel Land instead of the Hollywood area. Despite the delay, that area is atrocious and needs to go (although I will miss the Bug's life theatre). This will allow for more space in the Hollywood area for other stuff later on, probably with even more room once the eastern side of the park gets sorted out.
@Anton - Sorry for the improper credit.
Just on the olympics, forgive me if I'm misremembering, but I think I read that previous games didn't do much for Disney, so actually it might be a quiet time to visit the park (presuming you can get a hotel room of course).
LA is unlike many cities since much infrastructure for the games are already built and are in-use. For instance, the Opening and Closing Ceremonies and Track/Field events will already have the Memorial Coliseum and the new Rams Stadium.
Olympic cities continue to tout sustainability in their plans, and the companies building the infrastructure for the Games echo those desires. However, time after time, we see the Olympics leaving a wasteland in their wake of haphazardly constructed facilities to meet IOC demands, unnecessary facilities that are never utilized even if rock solid plans are in place for post-Olympics use (West Ham United just moved into London's Olympic Stadium last season after essentially being bribed to take it 4 years later - London officials expected all the London-based EPL clubs (Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, West Ham, and Crystal Palace) to bid against each other to use the new facility, and that's in a city flush with cash), and a promise of economic revitalization that never arrives. Ironically, the most promising success of the modern Olympic movement has been Sochi, which was a resort town for the privileged few, but the Olympics put it on the map and now is a thriving year-round tourist destination, but it's questionable if it was worth the $51 billion Russia invested into the event.
Why are glad you won't be in Southern California? I'm actually glad I don't live in Rio where the latest debacle happened. Southern California will be unaffected by the Olympics. The economy is much more diversified. I live in LA County, but 45 minutes outside of the City of LA. I never go to Downtown LA. The City of LA has it's own budgets and government. Their bad decisions don't spread to other places.
>>>Anyways, the Olympics bidding process is already on it's last legs. That why the Olympics committee gave the 2028 Olympics to LA despite not favoring LA for the 2024 Olympics. They are afraid the loss of the 2024 bid means LA won't bid any future Olympics. They are correct to fear the implications.
@russell Meyer, I’m not being obsessive over anything, I’m just wondering why Disney World is adding all these new attractions? I was there over the weekend, and was just curious as to why Disneyland is not adding as many attractions?
Timbo: Disneyland doesn’t lack attractions like Disney World. Apples and oranges. Disneyland has a ton of attractions. Instead you should say why don’t they add more attractions to DCA and why not more hotel resorts. Disneyland Resort is starved of hotels and parking.
I'll echo what Anton has said. Disneyland has far more attractions than WDW. If you examine each resort closely, you'll see in fact that between DCA and DL, those two parks practically mirror what is contained within FOUR parks at WDW. So, if you have two parks with plenty of attractions to keep people busy, while on the other side of the country you have 4 parks that are struggling to keep people busy for 1 day each, where would you invest your resources?
Anton and Russell, I agree with you that Disneyland park itself has many attractions. Anton, you are right, instead, I should have said why Disney isn't adding more attractions to California Adventure. That's what i meant to say. When they complete the 4th hotel, I think that will be plenty. They don't have the land like they do in Florida, to build a bunch of hotels. I usually stay at the Disneyland Hotel when I go, and all 3 hotels are within walking distance to the park. If they built more hotels, they would have to expand further away from the park. Which would mean a longer walk to get there. The reason Disney World has more parking structures is because they have the land. Disneyland doesn't have the land as Disneyland does. But I agree, they do need more parking structures, but not necessarily hotels.
DCA has plenty of attractions - more than DAK and DHS combined, and the park just completed a $2+ billion investment in that park just a few years ago. They're spending additional capital to do the Pixar makeover and continue to improve and tweak their existing attractions. However, at some point you need to let the park make some money back from such huge investments or you're liable to go bankrupt.
Russell, the point i'm trying to make here is why Disney World is getting such an extensive expansion, as opposed to Disneyland? Yes, I know Disneyland and California Adventure have plenty of attractions. You're right, Disneyland's 2 parks have just as much, if not more attractions than Disney World's 4 parks combined. I understand that.
Both coasts are waiting 4 long years. So you can either still go in Disney Parks crippled state or enjoy the fruits of the labor in 2019 for Star Wars or 2022 for everything else. It's more safe to wait. There's no point to complain about what it is. Not everything that's announced will take 4 years. Toy Story Land will open in 2018, that's one year earlier than Star Wars Land. The Runaway Railway is a 2 year project since it's announcement (opening 2019).
I Think the key word is land. WDW has the land, and more importantly, DIsney has control of the land. The Gateway project at DL died because of that.
Anton, I don't mean to complain. I'm just curious as to why Disney World is suddenly getting all these new attractions and not Disneyland? Yes, Disneyland is building Star Wars Land, just as they are in Disney World. Which is great! I'm looking forward to that. I know they are also updating California Adventure with a Pixar Land. That should be nice as well. I'm not saying that Disneyland never invests in their parks, they obviously do. I'm just wondering why Disney World is receiving all of these new rides in the next several years?
“With all the new rides that will be in Disney World, they could have created a 5th park if they wanted to.”
“So the trade off is the continued deterioration of the other half day parks?” What does that even mean? I’m not sure what you mean by that? Yes, Disney can spend its money how it wants. I don’t care about that. I don’t care how they spend their money.
I feel that Robert Niles, or AJ Hummel are the only ones who can provide me with a clear, and concise answer.
Timbo: AJ already given up on you.
Contrary to what you may think, Anton, I have not necessarily given up. I have just been too busy to check back in...my hours at work got unexpectedly doubled this week.
Thank you AJ, for all of the information. I really appreciate it. I have a much better understanding now.
Interesting comments. I agree that Disneyland is extremely limited in what it can do due to geography and political limitations (which is why Walt created WDW in the first place). I like both DL and WDW for different reasons, with DL getting the slight edge since it uses the old FP system instead of FP+, but WDW is wonderful. The comment that intrigued me what that people park hop more at DL than at WDW. That surprises me. I rarely ever park hop at DL. I like to totally immerse myself into DL and, if I do park hop, only spend half a day at DCA, and go back to DL. A perfect DL vacation is three days for me with the first and last day at DL. You can also spend time seeing the sites of Southern California if you are brave enough to fight that traffic.
"can you, or anyone else explain why Disney World is building so many new attractions, and Disneyland isn’t?"
AJ: To answer to your question, you actually didn't. "If Disneyland can remain near the maximum viable capacity of the resort with only moderate investments, do they need to spend billions of dollars on travel-worthy additions? No, at least not to the extent that is being done in Florida."
Russell Meyer, originally, I did want to know the dates of Galaxy Edge. But I also wanted to know why Disney World was getting a large expansion, rather than Disneyland. I understand now. I just wasn’t sure before. Thank you everyone for your responses. I’m sorry if I confused or angered anyone. Please know that was never my intent.