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Can Disney do Avatar justice?

Published: March 3, 2014 at 10:16 PM

Is Disney capable of doing an Avatar themed area? Whether you like it or not it looks like Avatar is going in Animal Kingdom sometime.... we think. The historical Disney park went no where because people were not sure if Disney could be accurate or just sugar coat all the historical things like how we took the American Indians land for example. A whole article was about that park with concept art recently of a park that never was constructed.

I know Avatar is a movie and not the vast history of the United States but can Disney bring to life the harsh conditions of Pandora? The economic, environmental, and political themes? Can it be easily accessible and adaptable to any age group? Will they sugar coat it with meet and greets and a beautiful flower and plant show? Or will Disney pull all the stops and present Pandora as a beautiful dangerous place with capitalism vs nature in a struggle waging war where actually people lose there lives? That's what the movie showed. How does Disney do it? My guess is that they are going to sugar coat the crap out of it and only show you the beauty side of it. What does everyone else think?

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James Rao

Published: March 4, 2014 at 4:23 AM

Sure, why not? They've been fairly successful so far in themed entertainment. There's no point in doubting WDI now.
Jay R.

Published: March 4, 2014 at 2:39 PM

I think they can, easily. Looking at Carsland as a recent example, I'm sure it will be an immersively themed land.

Plus James Cameron is actively involved & he's known for taking his time & paying attention to detail, so I doubt he's going to allow a subpar version to progress.

In terms of it's connection to the movie(s), that's a different story. I don't think it's meant to just be a linear live action version of the movie. Instead, they are attempting to make Pandora, in that regards, they have a bit more of an open slate on what they want to focus on.

But based on the press releases & early info we've heard (and the fact it's based in AK), I think the "nature" element may be stronger than the "war" aspect of the film.

TH Creative

Published: March 4, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Apple Butter

Published: March 4, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Thanks everyone for their info. Car Lands was built when I was out to Cali to see the two parks but I hear from everyone it's on par with potter. I gotta see it when I head back there again. If it can be built like that than I would have no problem shelling out my money to the mouse.
Jorge Arnoldson

Published: March 13, 2014 at 3:57 PM

I have no idea what Avatar Land has to do with the old "Disney's America" concept. So, here's my response to the original question: NO.

Other than its conservation message, Avatar has nothing to do with the theme of Animal Kingdom. Sure, Pandora at AK will be a great way to promote the upcoming sequels, but Avatar is a better fit at Universal Orlando as either a land or even a single attraction!

If Disney really wants to create a "Potter Killer", they need to come up with something else, whether it's the rumored Star Wars Land at DHS or an original idea.

TH Creative

Published: March 13, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Why would disney want to create a "Potter Killer?" Universal's Potter attractions bring tourists to Central Florida. A sizable portion of the visitors who come for the Potter attractions will also venture to the Disney property.
TH Creative

Published: March 13, 2014 at 6:09 PM

And yes, what Disney has planned for Pandora will fit into DAK's theme and will be exceptional.
Phil B.

Published: March 13, 2014 at 9:17 PM. Edited: March 13, 2014 at 9:21 PM

^ Agreed...I just don't get the resistance to Avatar on many levels. I will concede that the story for the first movie did not break new ground for cinematic narratives, but it was an enjoyable film with absolutely stunning visuals.

Here's some of the recurring arguments I hear repeatedly...

But Avatar doesn't belong in a Disney Park, especially AK:
The notion that Avatar doesn't fit in AK is silly. The whole first movie is strongly grounded in the ideology of living with and amongst the land. Being one with nature, co-existing, conservation, multi-cultural diversity, respecting all life and only taking what is needed to survive. Aren't these themes that AK expresses through out the whole park? I'll say this much, once Pandora finally opens to the public, it will look a hell of a lot more like it belongs at AK than Chester and Hester's.

But Pandora isn't even real, it's a made up world, I want Beastly Kingdom:
Ummm, so fire breathing Dragons and Unicorn's aren't imagined beasts, much like the flying Banshees or Thanators that inhabit Pandora? I want Beastly Kingdom too, but that ship has sailed, possibly forever. The notion that imagined beasts from centuries of folklore are anymore credible than imaginary beasts created from the minds of modern artist and story tellers is very narrow thinking. Fantasy is fantasy, and it's up to Disney to create an experience that utilizes the creatures found within whatever world they are delving into, to create an immersive presentation that exceeds the highest level of themed story telling possible.

But Avatar isn't even an original Disney story, it doesn't belong amongst the other original Disney properties:
Well, we might as well remove Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Marvel, The Muppets, Pixar, Mary Poppins, Cinderella, The Little Mermaid, Sleeping Beauty, Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, Tangled, Frozen and that spiffy new Mine Train coaster as well since Snow White isn't an original Disney IP either.

There's more, but it's late and I need sleep, but you get the idea. My concern lies more with cutting corners than it does with anything else. If Disney starts scaling back, then they will fall short of what they can pull off. I'm very optimistic this will not be the case due to the fact that Joe Rohde and James Cameron are both entrenched in this project. Both are master craftsman and storytellers and operate on an extremely high level of enthusiasm, perfection and attention to detail. AK is Rohdes baby and Avatar is Cameron's. Both are dedicated to creating an experience that pushes themed entertainment beyond the realm of what we currently know as being possible. When Rohde says(paraphrasing), "some of the things we want to do haven't been done yet, so we need to invent them", that gets me very excited at the prospect of what this land may very well end up being. That's the old Disney Imagineering way of doing things...having fun, doing the impossible!

Duncan Henny

Published: March 17, 2014 at 9:08 AM


Published: March 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM. Edited: March 27, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Yes! Avatar is perfect place for Disney Animal Kingdom and I will enjoy and loved!

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