2009 Best Ride in America Tournament: Millennium Force, Soarin', Hulk and Dudley Do-Right
Welcome to the third round of the 2009 Best Ride in America tournament
on Theme Park Insider.
Again, everyone, please read through the comments before casting your votes! Well-informed voters make for a better tournament. (Plus, reading the comments is more than half the fun of this thing, anyway.)
We kick off today's afternoon match-ups with Cedar Point Nation's Millennium Force taking on Soarin' Over California from Disney's California Adventure.
For anyone complaining about the voting results, at least be thankful that I didn't place the SeaWorld baby otters in the bracket. Based on site traffic over the past 24 hours, I suspect that they'd be beating everyone in this tournament! :-)
The evening's second match is an all-Islands of Adventure battle. Coaster or flume? Incredible Hulk Coaster or Dudley Do-Right's Ripsaw Falls?
Anyone care to comment? ;-)
If the Internet Gods truly hate me, this is the one day that the Cedar Point fans skip, allowing Soarin' to move on into the next round.
This one was a bit harder for me but here's my choices.
M Force for the win
The first one is easy: my favorite coaster against a poorly themed, fairly uninteresting ride (which my wife loves but she's not voting). Millennium Force wins the first vote.
As Milennium Force is my favorite coaster of all, I surely hope it doesn't lose! So I voted for it.
Lets see. High Altitude High Speed rollercoaster vs. David Puddy and a pretty unique attraction. I'm gonna have to go with Millenium Force but i still love Soarin'. And For the other one, Incredible Hulk is a really fun roller coaster and i'll take splash mountain over Dudley Do-Right (Which still beats any other log flume in the world) any day.
On the surface, MF is clearly the better
Robert, why are you splitting the polls into two threads? Will the times of when they are posted remain roughly the same?
Don't answer that, Robert! Hide behind the 5th Amendment! ;)
I haven't ridden DDR but I'd place Splash Mt. just ahead of Hulk. Is DDR pretty close to Splash or just a cheap knock off? I'd don't care about wet factor...
Soarin' vs. Millennium Force is definitely apples and oranges. But since I think the best steel coaster in the US is either Millennium Force or Superman: Ride of Steel (Six Flags New England) I had to give it to Millennium. I've ridden it with dew on seats. I've ridden it during Halloweekends when it was only in the mid-30s. I've ridden it in the inky blackness of night. I have never had anything less than an exhilarating ride on that perfectly designed coaster. From the elevator style lift "chain" that actually gets faster about half-way up and gets to the 310 foot peak amazingly fast [why aren't all coasters now using this lift system?], to the non-stop speed with the smooth-as-silk magnetic brakes at the end (and no trim brakes anywhere), it got my vote. Plus it is the only coaster that I actually own a model of. (A Franklin Mint model if I'm not mistaken. I can look at it sitting with my amusement park related collection and just reimagine my rides on it.)
I'm mostly trying to avoid 100-comment threads, plus I'm also seeing if I can get y'all to visit the site at least twice a day. :-)
Hulk takes Dudley, no problem. Hulk very well could be my favorite theme-less coaster. I like it better than MF, as well.
Oh, and Doug - DDR is not nearly the ride that Splash is. The drop is way better on Dudley, but thrills aside Splash wins.
Great to see Spider-man get through. There is some justice in the world.
Woah! This is starting to go fast!
I never said I wanted Soarin' to win...I was just protesting when I already knew the outcome! The best kind of protest! I get my cake and I eat it too...with extra Spider-Man colored frosting on top!
Phew! Spidey wraps it up. Had me sweatin' there for a sec. :)
James, I appreciate your sense of rebellion. At least you admitted it.
I am surprised the mustache (or moustashe, if you prefer) did not sway more voters. Clearly there is a predjudice on this site against stand-alone mustaches. Robert, I won't have it. I am declaring this vote to be a farce.
So this proves that a mountie always gets his man, but not always the tournament.
This is a no brainer. Millennium Force is the best roller coaster on the planet. Some people say that the trains get up the hill too quick. I dont think that is the case at all. With the lift hill right on the bay, it makes for one of the most exciting lift hills, and it builds the anticipation even more. The first drop is flawless and the over-banked turn is one of the most exciting part of any ride. This coaster has great air-time and is smooth as a ride gets. Soarin' is way over-rated. Yes it was fun and a cool experience, but in a world with spider man and other dark rides they dropped the ball. So this vote goes to the most exciting ride on earth, Millennium Force.
Welcome to the site, Ryan! I appreciate your breakdowns of both MF and DDR. Your commentary was tough but fair. Good job!
Hmm.. Finally a round where I've been on both rides quite recently with Millennium Force and Soarin' Over California. And while I am not a big fan of Soarin' compared to other Disney rides.. I'd much rather put that in my park as opposed to Millennium Force.
Serenity Now, James! Serenity Now!
Raul - awesome quote to tie in from the ride (and the cartoon)! Love it!
Uh...hi. This is James's wife, and I wanted you to know that he... uh... he... ahhh... well... he yelled something like "no...no...not the shaving cream..." then passed out. He is sleeping now, and I think he will be fine with about 12 hours of rest.
I don't think the split votes really had that much effect. The vote totals, comments and traffic yesterday when we also had the two voting sessions were similar, overall, to the previous round, when we didn't.
I do fear, however, that some of the site's regular visitors bailed on the tournament this evening, figuring that the CP crowd would make it a runaway. So the vote totals for the evening vote were down from vote totals in the first and second rounds.
Robert I am one of those considering bailing on the whole thing altogether for the rest of this year. I feel like the integrity of this contest has been compromised and has become a signature drive... the type you see in your local non-theme park sometimes.
Really low vote counts today...where did all the Cedar Point fans go???
To be honest, I think the exposure to this contest is what is killing it. You've opened the floodgates to where people from all over the enthusiast world can come and vote.. or know to.. I'm tired of enthusiasts that can't see beyond adrenaline.
I find it intresting that when a themed ride loses to a non-themed ride there is way more complaining than the other way around. And maybe complaining isnt the right word. When I vote I do take themeing into consideration, i also dont get caught up on it. Do I think some themed rides are better than non-themed ones? yes. Do I also think that non-themed ones can be better than heavily themed rides? Yes i do. I guess im trying to say that I feel that there are some people who get caught up in this war of theme/non-themed. And im not saying any certain group. When one votes for a ride i think they should truly think which ride they had a better time on and would be willing to wait longer for.
I'm not sure if there are a lot of whiners or elitists pitching a fit about their favorite park's ride getting knocked out by a fan of some other park but it sure sounds like it from many of the posts. It looks to me like there are far more Disney and Universal fans on this site than CP (I personally count myself in the Disney crowd).
that was the point i was trying to make! thanks doug!
No, I think people's problems have to do with the way Maverick was pushed over Tower of Terror just because CP told people on their website to go and blindly vote for them. I will admit that Disney, Universal, and Busch get more play on the site, but they are mostly international parks and not as local as CP. CP is great, but like my home park Six Flags Great America, it tends to get local people more for a day trip. SFGA and CP were actually quite well represented in this contest with some excellent roller coasters.
Agreed, Anthony. Tower was a big disappointment because of blind voting, just as Mystery Mine was a big disappointment (getting knocked out by Matterhorn? COME ON).
I'll bet money on this: there are FAR more CP fans who have been on ToT then there are Disney fans who have been on Maverick voting in this contest. Do you think the average CP fan hasn't been to a Disney park? That's not realistic. Do you think there are MANY Disney fans who haven't been to CP? You bet there are! And, who do you REALLY think is the more ardent fan, a Disney fan or a CP fan?
It seems tonight has turned into a fairly small contest. Not many voters tonight. At least for now, those who think only their opinion (and the people who agree with them) matters... got their 500 vote closed club tournament back.
I voted for Millenium Force over Soarin as I do not belive that Soaring deserved to make it through the last round. It is a nice ride, but certainly has its problems - The queuing area is boring, the queue is slow moving and unless you are lucky enough to be on the top glider your lovely view gets inertupted by people's feet. As I have said previously I am not convinced that much is gained by watching this movie from a fake glider suspended in the air.
I have to say I am surprised that my views so closely match those of many in some ways, but are vastly different to those same people in others. I've spent quite a bit of time at Universal/IOA and always have to hit Spiderman. It is, without question, one of my favorite rides and I am always telling people how great it is and that they need to go on it. I never realized how many other people felt the same way. On the other hand, I tend to force myself to go on Hulk just because people say it's supposed to be a good ride. Maybe I'm just getting too old, but it is the only ride that I have ever felt icky after getting off, and not the good icky, but really not right (and I'm not just referring to the massive headache I get from most coasters with shoulder harnesses). Then there's Dudley. I make it a habit of standing near the entrance and just watching the ride. I really enjoy riding it, but I don't like getting wet too much. I think it is rude to the other park patrons who have to sit in your puddle on the other rides at the park. So, I either wait until near dark or not at all, but then I usually have to drive home and don't want to get my car seat wet or ride my motorcycle wet (70+ mph doesn't feel good at night when wet, even in FL). I'm glad to hear others praise its flumeyness. So, I voted for DDR over Hulk because I actually want to ride it. With that, I miss White Water Landing at CP and move onto the other contest.
Derek Potter I understand your point completely. The underlying issue I have is not a diverse group of voters, but a largely skewed voting base.
Hmmmm...I am back from the dead, having passed through all five stages of grief not once, but twice so far in this tournament. And today I do have to get some work done, so I can only add a few things, then I am out for a bit...stop cheering! ;)
And Robert -->
James' counselor is making some sweet cash this week! :D
M.Force is still the best steel coaster out there. Soarin is a great attaction. But should not be against a coaster. Even though the Hulk is getting old. It is still better than a water ride,
Honestly, I think there should never be any blind park bias. People should vote for whatever ride is the best in their mind regardless of which park it's in. Only thing is that not everyone can go to CP or BG, so it makes it hard to vote for a ride a majority of people haven't been on.
OK, not to stir up anything more, especially since I agree with most of the "evil Cedar Point" posts. /snirk But I have to point out again, that although the link to this voting was ON the CP main site, it was on the BLOG for the site, not the main page. I personally very rarely actually check the main site of CP. I have a bookmark to the blog. So only those people who checked the blog actually got that from the CP site. The people who you all DISLIKE more likely linked in from the fan sites that you are saying is "ok" for being linked in. The people who are blindly voting are swayed by those comments who are saying "Vote for this - it will more easily lose to Mav/Millenium" on the fan sites.
Polling science - inaccuracies - what??? This is a poll of opinions. There are no wrong answers. Or right ones, for that matter. And I do think there are a lot of elitists here, no matter what may be said. The comments speak for themselves. At least, to me.
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