2009 Best Ride in America Tournament: Griffon, Apollo's Chariot, Mummy and Maverick
We're down to just eight rides, as we start the quarterfinals of the Best Ride in America Tournament
here on Theme Park Insider.
In this morning's match-ups, we start with a battle between roller coasters from Busch Gardens Europe: Griffon
versus Apollo's Chariot
It's theme versus thrill in the second match, as Universal Studios Florida's Revenge of the Mummy
takes on upstart Maverick
from Cedar Point.
Have it out in the comments.
Update: Allow me to make another pitch for Facebook readers to join Theme Park Insider's Facebook page. We'll be dumping much in-park and on-ride video there this summer.
Update 2: Two o'clock's come and gone on the west coast, so voting is closed. We've moved on to the other set of quarterfinals, with Spider-Man vs. Hulk and Millennium Force vs. Everest.
And so, it begins again...
I would have thought it would have been Griffon vs Maverick and Apollo vs Mummy.
If The ROM were not one of the greatest rides built. they would not be building 2 (yes count them) two more in the world. Comming soon in Sinapore and Dubi! for the worlds entertainment!
Apollo's Chariot takes the first one. How Griffon got a 4 seed and is still in it after so many good rides are gone is beyond me. Apollo has more continuity, much better pacing, and is plainly, more fun.
Conficker? But, you have to think that by now all the serious CP fans have registered at TPI and bookmarked this site, right?
You say serious fans. Which means probably NOT those who are blindly voting :P
Mummy vs. Maverick is a tough one for me; I rode both and loved them both. The Maverick provided ride sensations I hadn't felt before on a coaster and it deserves props for that; despite not being a mega-coaster it may be the best coaster at the greatest coaster park in the world. That said the Mummy may be the best themed coaster I've ever ridden with the best combination of coaster thrill and theming, but it may not be the best coaster at Univ, I like Hulk better from a physical ride sensation perspective. Geez what time does voting end. In the end I went ROTM.
Audra... I like the way you think!
Here it goes again...look at the total votes on Maverick.
100 vote swing in about 15 minutes....gotta give Anonymous Voter credit for mobilizing.
I have ridden BOTH Mummy AND Maverick.
Alright I haven't ridden Griffon or Apollo's Chariot yet (Still not convinced $50 for 5 coasters is a good deal when I can pay $35 and ride 17 at CP) so I won't vote on that.
I think Apollo's Chariot is the only ride that deserves to be in this round. Griffon, Mummy, and Maverick should have been eliminated in previous rounds. Chariot gets my vote.
Today was a pretty easy day for me.
Once again, we got blind votes for CP. This is turning into another sham again!
Just because their fans are mobilizing does not mean there is cheating. Go on a Universal/Busch site and try to motivate them to vote!
Maverick vs. Mummy over 200 more votes then Griffon vs Apollo....Do I smell ballot stuffing. Im kinda not really into this anymore.
Yeah, James but its OK for some on the site to beat up on blind Disney fans, but not CP fans? While both have their fans, Disney blind voting never toppled the votes over to one side as much as Maverick has had. I am just very confused on it all, but you know what, it really doesn't matter. Its just all in fun! I know that!
Blind votes?! Uh, so if one is a fan of coasters, you are susposed to vote because one park spent more money on marketing than design?!? When I go to a theme park its to have an exhilarating time...when I want a good story I pickup a book.
Mobilizing a group of people to vote specific is not good for any poll that is supposed to be fair and unbiased. It's evident that people are only coming to vote for maverick to advance. If they cared about the contest for what it really represents, then they would take the time to cast a vote between Apollo and Griffon, which clearly is not happening as can be seen by the ever increasing margin of votes between both match ups.
With the huge Maverick lead and the fact polls are only open 12 hours now, I can not see CP putting this in their blog. They can't make a post every time a new round comes up and the way things are going, they'll need to support in the final four. My
Maverick vs. Mummy= Maverick.....So much more fun and smooth, and new.
No worries, Mike.
Here we go...
i've never been on revenge of the mummy, but it sounds like an AMAZING ride and now i definitely want to go there someday, but Maverick is completely INSANE, it might not be as themed as ROTM, but its definitely thrilling with all the twists and turns, not to mention the first drop has a 95-degree angle...
WOW Maverick n Mummy have 300 more votes then Griffon n Appollo...Something doesnt seem right.
Only counting the votes from those who have registered and commented, here is the tally so far (presuming Mike K voted Maverick and Mike B voted Mummy):
I voted Mummy and Griffon
Real tough vote here. Griffon is a great ride. But I just kie the out of the seat rush and length of Apollos Chariot.
I am also surprised at the vote count difference between the two polls. My site surely won't generate that many votes in such a short period of time just in the forums. Maverick and Mummy should be a close race. I suspect someone is voting repeatedly. About every 5-10 seconds the vote count goes up by one. (I think it went up 10-20 votes in just the time it took to write this)
Seriously, anyone who has been to CP would not even be having this discussion-Maverick, Millenium and Top Thrill Dragster, along with their many more coasters, kick the butt of pretty much all competitors. No one is voting multiple times to get Maverick to win. It, and Cedar Point, is just that good!
As my comments above and comments on previous match ups I will vote Mummy especially as it is so far behind, hopefully it will catch up, make that take the lead. Having read comments on here and viewed ride videos, as good as Maverick looks I doubt it matches the experience of this or the previously knocked out TOT. I very much doubt that I would be wowed by it given previous comments viewed.
Apollo's chariot is a superior roller coaster. Griffon didn't live up to the hype.
You can stop looking at the CP blog to see if they have linked here, Cedar Point has a Facebook page with 67,708 fans that they update with the link to this site. They don't need to do it in their blog anymore.
Apollo v. Griffon - I'm not voting on that one since I don't know the rides well enough to have a strong opinion.
The Maverick n Mummy votes are almost double that of Griffon n Apollo now. Lets this name Maverick 2009 winner now.
The reason there are so few votes in the AC/Griffon match up is b/c BGE fans don't want to have to pick between two rides in the same park.
Andre I am sure that is the case for some....I am a huge BGE fan and still voted...still even if some are not voting...i wouldnt think that would make up that many votes.
So what if Maverick wins it all! Enjoy the ride of fun discussion and debate! At least it's a great ride that a lot of people like! It's not like this is some attration like the Pteranodon Flyers at IoA in the semifinals. :)
Don...I think Maverick is a great ride....just do not think it should win...and reading the other comments either does most people that comment on this post. Just weird.
While Revenge of the Mummy was a great ride, Maverick was hands down the most fun I've ever had being strapped down in a moving vehicle. From the first launch over the 95 degree drop I just couldn't help but laugh in pure bliss. It's worth the trip to Cedar Point just for this ride.
To clarify, both Busch Gardens Europe and Cedar Point have sent messages to all the fans of their pages on Facebook to come vote in the tournament. Busch Gardens has 8,165 fans on Facebook, but Cedar Point has 67,741, which accounts for the discrepancy in voting between the polls.
Please don't flood anymore Facebook accounts! Every time I refresh I get more votes... it is making my head hurt! Gratz to Maverick and the CP fans.
Update on registered voters who have commented:
For those posting, how many of you chose Mummy but haven't actually experienced Maverick (or vice versa)? CP is a great park but I know it draws most of its crowd from the local area. Universal is, well, more universal.
I only voted in the BG poll. I did not vote in the ROM vs Maverick since I have not ridden either ride. I tend to believe that if I'm going to vote fairly I need to have had the experience, and even though I am a CP fan I'm not going to pile on just because I like the park. LOL, they don't need my vote anywho. :)
This was posted on my site by a member
Geez...I was only gone for a couple of hours. James....That just happened.
Heh, the main Cedar Point fanbase has nothing better to do this time of year so they can spend the time online to vote. Try having this matchup again on a Saturday in say, July. They'll all be AT the park and won't have time to muck up the voting. Come to think of it, I'LL probably be at the park then too, or some park somewhere. I tend to hit a bunch of PA parks and Trimpers at Ocean City, MD during the summer.
I dunno, Derek, would you rather win a subjective popularity contest, or have 17 million customers per year?
Maverick launches you up a 100 ft. hill, drops you 95 degrees, turnes you upside down, winds you through rocks and bolders, and when you think its over, it launches you at 70 mph through a dark tunnel, which is lit with lasers and flashing lights. I have been on Mummy, and I love a good theme park. However, Maverick is not "just another coaster"... that is why it recieves my vote.
Apollo's Chariot is really great, especially the high banked turn at the far end, and the bunny hops on the return.
Griffon vs. Apollo's Chariot. While there is no denying that Apollo gives you some of the best airtime around, I had to vote for Griffon. For one thing, I have never experienced anything like the sensation of weightlessness I get on the Immelman. For another, there is only one other dive machine in America (SheiKra), which makes the drop completely thrilling and unique. While Apollo is great, rides like Nitro and Behemoth are in the same league, where as Griffon is all by itself (it is MUCH superior to SheiKra.)
If my park were in Florida and operating year round instead of 4 months out of the year, it would be doing just fine thank you. It also wouldn't even need to have 17 million visitors, because it doesn't spend 100 million for one attraction...only to lose said subjective popularity contest to a "simple" roller coaster that that was built for a fifth of that cost.
Time to fight dirty ...
As a resident of Williamsburg, I feel dirty picking between Apollo and Griffon. I had to think about which one I would be the most sad if it was torn down tomorrow. Griffon is magnificent; the hold before the drop is delicious. Apollo is the ride in BGW that you can ride once then turn around and ride it again and have just as much fun.
By the way, SFGA has a facebook page and they were ready and willing to come out, but alas, it was on a Saturday that Superman lost :(
Hopefully we're going to see a turn around now that Universal have linked to the vote on their Facebook page. Go Mummy!
^^ Because that surely is the measuring stick of a great ride.. Pfft.
Good luck Josh...already did it, just to appease people bellyaching about how unfair the contest is.
Jacob, I'm not saying that whatever park can draw enough attention to the vote should win. All I'm saying is that with there being an influx of Cedar Point fans this may just even things up a little.
Very good! Now, no matter if Maverick or Mummy wins, the other side can't complain about social networking influences. Regardless, vote the better ride, not your favorite park!
Your little trick just might work. I just sat there for a minute and hit refresh and then viewed the results and over 20 votes came in one minutes time. With 3 hours to go and many people on the east coast leaving work and getting home you could wind up with a very impressive total of votes.
I already made my thoughts on Maverick known on the previous thread, so I'll spare them here. But Maverick gets my vote.
Derek, let's do this!
And btw, I found this site because of the CP facebook post; I'm a big CP and coaster fan, but here I voted ROTM in a nail biter. I did not vote in the other contest because I haven't ridden either ride, so I decided it wasn't fair. Just because some CP coaster fans are voting blindly/anonymously doesn't mean all are. While I voted for Mummy here, I'm ok w/Maverick winning, it's a great ride.
Oh yeah...for all you new folks that don't know me....there is a LOT of tongue-in-cheek in my last post! ;)
Tongue-in-cheek, passive-aggressive, bi-polar...who really knows what makes James Rao tick. He is like Ben on "Lost". Is he good or evil? Either way you can't keep your eyes off him. :)
I've watched the polls for the past 50 mins and ROTM has gone from 34% to 44% respectively, is there a comeback upset in the future?
I've never been on Mummy or Maverick, so I didn't vote on that 1. As for AC and Griffon, I voted Griffon.
I've been watching the polls for about an hour and it looks like ROTM is coming back from being down at 34%. Is there a comeback upset in the future?
Alright James, even though I said I wouldn't, here it goes.
Ladies and Gents,
Looks like Robert waited until the millisecond he got the voting result he liked and shut down voting early. Pretty slick. But, your poll, your rules.
The power of facebook!
What a master stroke...too bad you didn't let the voting last all evening.
Obviously the Universal fans linking from facebook are voting blindly...hehe jk ;)
Its a shame voting could not be extended in a close match like this... who is to say another wave of voters could have showed up.
LOL! 10 minutes after CP's blog links here it's shutdown, classic. There won't be any drawback either, the fanbase for Universal is much larger so traffic will still be high and ROM might win the whole thing now! This is like a soap opera!
FWIW, I've been shutting the morning votes at 2 (Pacific Time) all week. Evening vote closes around nine. (I'm less precise with that one, 'cause I got to get the kids to bed. Once I've done that, I'll come close the poll.)
OMG... Mummy won? You've got to be kidding me. Derek, sorry, I am too flabbergasted to comment as the basis for your whole argument just went out the window.
I realized that once Universal Orlando linked to the vote, around 11, that it was going to be a race to the finish. If I closed before Mummy caught Maverick, the Universal fans were going to complain that I cut the vote early to save Maverick. And if Mummy caught up early, then the Cedar Point fans were going to complain that I either I left the vote up too long or cut it off before they could mount a come-back.
I love you, Robert. =)
My argument is still here. A wave of Universal fan voting doesn't change that, just like a wave of Cedar Point fan didn't change it before. A 53% to 47% win does nothing but heat up the debate.
I think its great.
How does Mummy win over MAVERICK! And how does Apollo's Chariot win over GRIFFON!
This contest may not decide the best ride but it's a hell of a social experiment! :)
Jeez ... I'm sorry guys.
Althought Griffon is fun, it is short and got much more hype then it actually is. Yeah it's something different, but I much prefer the fast moving drops and high speed of Apollo's.
The Maverick is by far the best!!!
Maverick got snubbed
Maverick' absolutely rocks!
Griffon must be one heck of a ride to beat X2 (Six Flags MM, CA). X2 is by far the coolest ride I've ever been on. I haven't ridden Griffon, but watched the video, and still think X2 could beat it. Just a little surprised.
Alright, so CP and Universal got their fans to come on the site and "blind vote" like crazy. So neither side can complain... well of course you can, but whatever it's not going to change anything. Congrats to ROTM on winning, it's a great ride. For those who enjoy big time thrills and haven't ridden Maverick, make the trip to the good old Ohio and give CP a try. It's a great amusement park.
This is a total crock. Now I understand that the market in Sandusky, OH is just as big as Orlando, FL... oh wait. Not to mention the complete bending of the rules. This "tournament" needs better structure to have any credibility. Here's to hoping Millennium Force doesn't get knocked out due to some sham like this :)
Thank you Joshua for bringing some balance to this tournament.
An eye for an eye, ehh. Guess CP fans got a taste of there own medicine. I'm pleasantly surprised to see Mummy pull off the come from behind win.
i dont see how having 2 bushgardens rides pitted aginst each other is fair.
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