2009 Best Ride in America Tournament: Spider-Man, Hulk, Millennium Force and Everest
Published: April 2, 2009 at 1:33 PM
Last chance for campaigning, in the comments.
2009 Best Ride in America Tournament: Spider-Man, Hulk, Millennium Force and Everest
Published: April 2, 2009 at 1:33 PM
It's time to wrap up the quarterfinals of the Best Ride in America Tournament here on Theme Park Insider.Tweet
Last chance for campaigning, in the comments.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 1:37 PMI have been on both of them and there is no comparison, Millennium Force wins hands down, that ride is amazing, disney will never build something that high or fast.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 1:51 PMThis matchup, I had to vote for the Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man. It is a truly unique experience. In the last 7 years I've been to the parks I've seen many things get added and changed and it has just become better so Spider-Man has my vote over the Hulk which I do love to.
Everest on teh bottom but I really can't judge it too well since I can only go from what I read and see, having not been on Millenium.
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Published: April 2, 2009 at 1:47 PMEasy round, for me anyways.
The pinnacle of modern dark rides against a standard B&M coaster. Spider-man's virtues have been expressed many times here before. If Hulk were in Dollywood or SFwhatever, it might not have even been in this competition. Vote Spidey.
Millennium Force is as good as a coaster can be. Everest is an average coaster that is somewhat helped by its' minimal theming. On top of that, it's pièce de résistance hangs there like a statue. Believe in the Force.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 1:52 PMWhile I voted for Everest, I might want to take my vote back since your song was fantastic!
Spiderman is just great!
BTW the Yeti is supposed to work, but its down right now. They can't close Everest down for too long. I really do not think that can be used against them!
Published: April 2, 2009 at 1:52 PMSpider-Man over Hulk. No, I don't like comic books, the Spider-Man franchise, 3D attractions or simulators but this does a good job of mashing up a bunch of things I don't like to make a good ride. I agree with others: Hulk is over rated and I see it going down quite easily this round.
MF over Everest. Forget the broken Yeti (they can strap down one of our Bigfoots from the Pacific Northwest and paint him white!). I love the Everest queue (which has some Bigfoot stuff in it), the mountain (which is almost as good as Matterhorn but I like the way you weave in and out of Matterhorn) and the switchbacks. But, the ride itself is mostly along the ground or in the dark (pitch dark with few effects). And, consider where that broken track was supposed to take you--to the moon? It goes straight up! Talk about suspending disbelief!
No, Millennium Force is the best coaster I've been on bar none. It wins. But I was surprised to see the previous round end so quickly. Could we have voting start/stop times posted the day prior?
Published: April 2, 2009 at 1:54 PMAmazing Adventures of Spider-man took the vote for me. Let's face it, the attraction is simply awesome whilst Hulk is an average B and M with a cool launch.
The second vote I went with Everest. Yeti or no Yeti this is the best Disney Mountan bar none.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 1:54 PMSpidey and MF for the win!!!
Published: April 2, 2009 at 2:13 PMAnd now, my real assessment.
Expedition Everest vs Millennium Force:
--> Doug, the track is going up because the Yeti ripped it out of the ground, not because Everest was supposed to be Journey to the Moon II. =D
Okay... the kids are whining... I guess you do have to feed them everyday, after all. Back much later. Have fun!
Published: April 2, 2009 at 2:19 PMSpiderman wins..Hulks launch only takes it so far.
Millennium Force over Everest- As stated previously, Everest is a nice piece of scenery on top of a boring coaster track, with a centerpiece that doesn't work properly. MF is speed, height, and gravity at it's finest.
It's about time you people started campaigning. I expect those of you who did so to withdraw your previous complaints and crying spells about "blind voters" and "linking up" to the tournament. Congratulations Mummy on your comeback...and good luck Disney fans on your campaign
Published: April 2, 2009 at 2:28 PMI've not ridden MF, but was impressed by its track lay-out when I visited CP. But the thought of Everest winning this tournament troubles me (even though I picked it to win).
Having Everest win the BRIA while its centerpiece is broken sends a horrible message to Disney - namely, that fans are sheep who don't care if Disney delivers a half-hearted attraction. If Everest is the BRIA, why take the time and spend the money to fix it? So long as enough people have warm memories of the ride having once worked, that's good enough.
That's the attitude that Disney had in the late 1990s and early 2000s, and it drove many fans nuts, caused others to start looking toward other parks, and eventually cost Michael Eisner his job. I really, really don't want to return to those times. So, please, let's not send that message to Disney by advancing Everest to the title.
Spider-Man over Hulk should be easy, but there appears to be some strong anti-Spidey sentiment out there, for some reason. I wish that those individuals would post, and tell us why.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 2:34 PMNow we're all just along for the ride...
As I have said from the beginning: whichever side brings the biggest Mob wins the fight. Anonymous Voter, this is your contest now.
I'm out... no more putting it off... the kids need me, more than you all do! =)
Published: April 2, 2009 at 2:34 PMI voted for Spidey, but I'll pull for Hulk. I would much rather have a Hulk vs. Millennium Force match than a Spiderman vs Millennium Force match.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 2:38 PMI voted for Hulk over spidey for the same reason most of you voted for spidey over Hulk. You all prefer Themeing to Thrills, yet I prefer Thrills to Themeing. Spiderman is an excellent attraction, one of the best; yet if I had to choose between the two (as I often do seeing as they are next to each other) I would choose Hulk everyday.
Hulk is one of my favorite orlando attractions; the launch is enough to make my entire day. Additionally, unlike many roller coasters, Hulk actually has a plot. There is a theme to this coaster, while not comparable to that of Spiderman, that is clear from the queue.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 2:40 PMUnfortunately, with the anonymous CP voters coming out in droves, I think thats what is causing the upswing in votes for Hulk. They want Millenium to win (as do I!) so they vote for what will be an easier win. I voted for Spiderman for all of you who may care, even though I haven't been on either it OR Hulk, because how everyone here has talked about it! But I feel that the mob mentality MAY lead to Spiderman's downfall... :(
Published: April 2, 2009 at 2:51 PMOh, how I wanted Expedition Everest to go far. But when anythig is put up against Millennium Force, it is going to have a tough time. The thing I don't understand is Hulk beating down Spider-Man? But that is nothing compared to MAVERICK and GRIFFON loosing to REVENGE OF THE MUMMY and APOLLO CHARIOT! I am disappointed. Oh Well!
Published: April 2, 2009 at 2:57 PMFor those who have had the opportunity to ride both Millennium and Everest, you should know that this is an easy matchup.
Millennium Force, 4 time winner and 5 time runner up of the Golden Ticket award for best roller coaster, is the industry best. A 310 ft drop starts what is in my opinion the smoothest coaster in the world. I am willing to wait hours for this, my favorite, coaster (Hulk being 2nd).
Before I rode Everest, I knew the hype. I had been tracking the construction footage as soon as it began. So, when I went to disney the year it opened, it was supposed to be the highlight of my trip. It, unfortunatly did not live up to this hype. IMO, there are way too many stops within the ride. While the theming is amazing, the ride itself is quite boring. And, on top of that, I did not even spot the Yeti until my second ride.
For me the choice is quite clear, Millennium is superior to Everest
Published: April 2, 2009 at 3:07 PMThis is one set of matchups that I feel I can vote very fairly on, having been on 3 of the 4 up for voting.
Spiderman vs. Hulk
MF and Everest
Published: April 2, 2009 at 3:19 PMUggh. If Spiderman loses out to Hulk, it's a travesty. To the Cedar Point fans, it cheapens things if you guys keep *allegedly* voting for the inferior ride, knowing that MF will destroy Hulk when they match up. Are you afraid of how MF or Maverick will do against Spiderman ? Seems like it to me.
Spiderman is the greatest theme park attraction ever created. Like others before me have said, nobody has been able to equal, much less surpass, the entire package that Spiderman provides from the minute you get in the queue to when you fling the 3-D glasses back into the bins as you leave the ride grinning from ear to ear.
Hulk, to its credit, probably has the best first 10 seconds of any coaster ever assembled that runs longer than a minute. The first ten seconds of Hulk, I'd put up with anything on god's green planet. The ride dramatically teeters off as soon as you hit the MCBR, and that kills it for me. Hulk is the ultimate Red Bull and Vodka ride, with the first 30 seconds being red bull upper and the last minute or so being the vodka downer.
Spiderman, on the other hand, delivers thrill after thrill. I will NEVER EVER forget the feeling I had after the first time I rode Spiderman. I am sure many others would say the same.
I have never ridden Millenium Force but will be making my CP trek within a year or two if all goes well. I am absolutley looking forward to MF and Maverick and the other coasters, but I am challenging all the anonymous people voting to vote for the best ride in each bracket. Otherwise, the ride from your park may "win" by the cheapest means, and to me, this is the greatest compliment to Spiderman that I can see.
What the Cedar Point people are essentially admitting is that MF and Maverick have no shot against Spiderman, so they're ganging up and pushing Hulk through. That's a crying shame. Spiderman is the greatest ride ever made, and I will not argue this.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 3:15 PMSpiderman is the best themed ride in America, and Millenium Force is the best coaster. Easy choices here.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 3:32 PMCould Universal be shooting itself in the foot? Could their coaster fans be killing Spidey without realizing downstream implications?
Published: April 2, 2009 at 3:42 PMI actually have to agree with you, Daniel. And since I doubt the CP fans who are doing that voting, if thats the case, read these comments it means nothing, but I would MUCH rather have Millenium go up against a harder rival, to show that it truly deserves the win. The fact that Maverick lost does not really hurt my feelings, because it had a good run, and it IS truly a good coaster. If Millennium wins or loses, it too had a good run and definitely deserves to be in the final four! But if it wins simply because voters chose to let it slide through, that takes away a lot of the deserving-ness.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 4:29 PMEvery single Amazing Adventures Of Spider Man, Expidition Everest, Tower Of Terror, IOA, Disney,B&M fan need to get out there and vote for the Hulk! Let a true rollercoaster thats themeing is out of this world and has a unique layout and world class atmosphere WIN over an average non-themed Intamin coaster thats popular just because it reaches a height of over 200ft and is over publicized by Cedar Point.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 4:31 PMIt will be nice to watch this one from a non-voting perspective. I have only ridden MF so once again I will not stuff the ballot box unfairly. As a matter of fact, unless Apollo's Chariot and Millie match up down the road, I won't be voting again at all, but this has definitely been entertaining and I found another great website to patronize to boot! (freakin' brown nose)
Published: April 2, 2009 at 4:36 PMShocking that Hulk is beating Spiderman right now. That makes NO sense whatsoever. Who the heck is voting?
And although I'm still doing the "Y-E-T-I" here in my office thanks to James' rockin' tune, it's Milennium Force all the way. MF leaves me breathless everytime and does deserve a top ranking.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 4:48 PMThe Red Bull and vodka analogy is my favorite comment of the day, so far. Thanks, Daniel! (Strong honorable mention props to YETI, though.)
Published: April 2, 2009 at 5:25 PMSo yes, I was one of the people who first came here from the CP Facebook update on the Maverick, but I liked what I saw and decided to stay. I have been lurking since then, but today I felt like talking. For this contest, I certainly voted for Millennium Force, since it is the best coaster I have ever been on. But I certainly wasn't one of the voters against Spider-man, if that is what is happening to that race. Clearly from all the comments it is a better ride than Hulk, so no matter how much I might want MF to go on, it is only fair to vote for it in this race. I didn't even vote for the Maverick in the round before this--The Beast seemed a better ride, though I am not a huge fan of wooden coasters myself. Anyway, I am now a fan of TPI on Facebook and registered here. So from my perspective, it was a good thing CP put that update up. (Though one has to wonder why they were pushing so strongly for the Maverick and didn't mention squat about MF. Maybe they though it had a good chance of winning without CP fans? Still. . .it doesn't make much sense.)
Published: April 2, 2009 at 5:32 PMI can see an argument for Spider-Man beating Millennium Force but not Hulk! If Universal wants to stay in the battle they need to pump votes into Spider-Man and forget about Hulk. Their own campaigning may cost them the final win. Think about it--the average Universal fan has probably never been to CP. They may be a coaster nut who doesn't know what lies outside their own little Universe, so to speak. They think Hulk is the best coaster around and vote that way because they don't realize that relative to the rest of the industry Hulk isn't that great but Spider-Man is! LOL! :)
Published: April 2, 2009 at 5:29 PMCedar Point fans may or may not be voting for Hulk, but what about the newly arrived equally large force of Universal fans that edged out Maverick earlier? Which way are they going? Are they going with the coaster or the themed ride? Interesting dynamic.
I'm sure that if Spiderman loses to Hulk, people will somehow blame it all on Cedar Point voters. If you read above, they are starting to already.
The Red Bull analogy is spot on
Published: April 2, 2009 at 5:39 PMSo far as I can tell, there are 3 reasons to go to CP:
A) You're a coaster freak.
B) You're a local.
C) All of the above.
And nothing wrong with any of that. If you're a coaster freak, then why wouldn't you vote for a coaster? Nothing insidious about that. Lighten up, OK?
I'm still voting Spidey. And MF, just because WDW has a habit of no upkeep to speak of. Even if it has facial hair.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 5:58 PMI am going to have to go with Spidey over Hulk. While Hulk is very a good coaster and is one I ride a few times every time at Universal, Spidey just amazed me. It's just cool! I had never ridden a ride like Spidey and it's one of the first ones I go on every visit. Coolest effects of any ride.
Alright, there really isn't much contest for the Millennium vs Everest ride. It's Millennium all the way. Millennium is THE BEST coaster I have ever been on. I feel like I am flying when I ride Millennium. The drops are AWESOME!! Air time is AWESOME! The ride is so smooth. It's my favorite coaster. I was looking so forward to Everest when it debuted. I even made the trip to DW in JULY (which I don't like doing!) to check it out. The ques are great and well themed. But the ride was disappointing, the hill is lacking, the coaster isn't that great. The coolest part was going backwards in the dark. But I didn't think the ride wasn't as suspenseful or thrilling as it was suppose to be. The themeing tries to hide a poor ride, but it just can't. When I rode the ride the Yeti was working and was pretty cool. But time and after time I hear the Yeti isn't working and I wonder why Disney can't fix it. It seems like an essential part of the ride and doesn't reflect well on Disney's ability to keep it running. Anyways, I was sad that Maverick didn't beat ROTM, but I can understand it. But there is no way Millennium should go down to Everest.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 6:00 PMThis really bothers me. Seriously, Hulk is winning over Spider-man!?! Did I miss out on the free crack give-away or something today? I'll admit, the queuing and launch on Hulk are great, but after that it's a torture rack; Raptor at CP is way better. Spider-man may only have a semi-decent queue, but at least it's more air-conditioned. The ride itself, however, totally rocks; probably my favorite ride out there. I've gone into Universal just to ride Mummy and then wandered over to IOA just to ride Spider-man (it was nice to live nearby and have a $99 annual pass - while they were offering it to me, that is). I would look at the Hulk and think ...nah, I want to enjoy the rest of my day, not feel like crap.
Now, MF vs Everest ...MF definitely wins it here. Everest is probably my favorite ride at WDW, but is basically a coaster with some fancy queuing - which, I'll admit is nice. However, MF is probably the best coaster ever. And, comparing the coaster aspect, MF hunts the yeti down and clubs it over the head with a big stick. So, the bit of theming applied to Everest in no way makes up for how much better MF is as a coaster. Besides, the Yeti is apparently broken. Y - E - T - I ...
Published: April 2, 2009 at 6:51 PMOh, the Yeti is definitely broken. And for me, at least, it ruins a terrific ride, and flaws a perfect example of great Disney imagineering.
You are also right about Spidey... it should be winning.
And don't look now, but it is making a little push here at the end. Come on Universal fans, give it up for:
Published: April 2, 2009 at 8:00 PMHulk has no business beating Spidey. One of the best coasters in the country(Millennium Force) has to duke-it-out against one of the great dark rides(Spider-man). Anything else is unacceptable.
The Final Four should be Millennium, Spidey, Apollo and Mummy. That is an extremely worthwhile group that no one can complain about.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 8:17 PMLet's hear it for Hulk
"I am a real American..fight for the rights of every man"
Honestly, it's quite an upset if Spiderman loses to a coaster that MAY make the top 20 coasters in America on my well traveled list. The Hulk launch is fun, but B&M coasters grow on trees in the regional market, and after the launch, it becomes a pretty stock B&M looper. It really doesn't deserve to go to the next round...In fact I kind of dispute it's place in this round.
Really? Hulk over Spiderman? Oh well, I suppose it would set the stage for a Cedar Point vs. Universal showdown, which comes down to voter turnout. Isn't it funny how it appears to have come down to that. It seems that Disney will be absent from the final four. Did anyone have that in their bracket?
Published: April 2, 2009 at 8:20 PMI'm a Cedar Point fan all the way because no where else has a collection of coasters like they do. It "cheapens" things when all of you guys are voting AGAINST Cedar Point rides because you know they are going to win. Comments such as "I'm going to vote for the opposite coaster just so Cedar Point coasters don't advance. It was also cheap that the polls closed 10 minutes after Maverick fell behind last round. So until you let everybody vote fairly, I'm going to keep voting for Cedar Point rides...I take that back, all Cedar Fair rides! In conclusion, everybody who hasn't been to or doesnt have the chance to visit Cedar Point and hates on the coasters they have to offer needs to quit hating and get over themselves, or just simply don't vote if you're going to be like that. Fair is fair and let me tell you, all of you guys voting against Cedar Point just because they are the roller coast capital of the world, is just unfair.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 8:22 PMRed Bull and Vodka wins. I'm starting to think that a bunch of Universal fans voted Hulk now for some reason, as most of the "CP" posters on this thread apparently voted for Spiderman.
Don't get me wrong, Hulk is great. But Millenium Force is probably going to win 72%/25% and walk to the championship round. I see it as Millenium Force versus Mummy or Apollo's Chariot for all the marbles. As a Floridan, I can't help but root for Mummy, which happens to be in my home park. I've never rode Apollo or MF, but I'm locked towards MF over Hulk and leaning towards Mummy over Apollo.
Tower went out very early. Spidey looks to be done in the Elite Eight. I'm both intrigued by and dissapointed with how this tournament has progressed. The thing about Spidey, and Tower to a lesser extent, is that unlike most roller coasters, you can ride while it's raining outside. Also, unlike most of the coasters, those rides have minimal height restrictions so that the whole family can enjoy a state of the art ride.
I understand the lure of "finally being tall enough" and taking your first ride on The Beast or Millenium Force. I absolutley do. But I get the sense that some only focused on the thrill aspect when voting. With each ride on Spidey or TOT, one sees the little things, whereas you pretty much see the same thing every time you ride a coaster. On the other hand, riding Spidey 10 times in a row would get old pretty quickly, whereas riding MF or perhaps Apollo 5 to 10 times in a row would be more appealing.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 8:23 PMI may have spoken too soon. Go, Spidey, Go!!! Theme Park Gods, you cannot deny us a Spiderman versus Millenium Force match-up! This site would literally implode during that battle.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 8:29 PMQuick, Robert, close the poll while Spidey is ahead!
Published: April 2, 2009 at 8:47 PMI could have swore the polls were just closed with Hulk beating out Spiderman 50-49... Now they are back open? What's going on here?
Edit: Polls closed again at Spiderman 50-49, opened back up, and now look closed for good at 51-48. What gives?
Published: April 2, 2009 at 8:49 PMWow! Spidey lives another day!
Published: April 2, 2009 at 8:49 PMHoly crap! My heart was pounding like a million beats per second :S.
Glad to see that Spidey beat out Hulk, tomorrow's contest is going to be CRAZY!
Published: April 2, 2009 at 8:50 PMJustice has prevailed. The dead weight is gone and the four best rides remaining will duke it out for the championship. Everyone sing Ha-lle-lujah! Ha-lle-lujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Ha-llehe-lu-jah!
Published: April 2, 2009 at 9:24 PMRobert, please tell me tomorrow is a day off from the tournament... I don't think my heart, or my career can take too much more of this insanity! ;)
Gratz to Millennium Force on the big win, finally ousting that darn broken Yeti that has haunted me since the first round!
Gratz to Spidey on a huge comeback. I love you, man!
Props to Robert for keeping things entertaining.
And a big fat SHAME ON YOU to Disney for not showing up at all.
I'm probably out most of tomorrow (I actually have a lot of work to do - this tournament is killing my productivity!), so, keep it real, gang... and try to get along!
Published: April 2, 2009 at 9:27 PMOh my gosh, James. Did you just congratulate Cedar Fair? ;)
Published: April 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM^^Been doing it all along... sometimes you just have to read between the lines... or between my gritted teeth! =)
Blackout, is that you? Kudos, for coming on board. Welcome to the TPI family... and once again, my apologies for the other day (click here and read the sixth comment from the bottom). I was passing through all five stages of grief and it was not pleasant, just ask Scottland, Don, Raul, or the police that came and took me away. Anyway, here's to a long and fruitful relationship.
Published: April 2, 2009 at 11:31 PMThat was stupid, I completely forgot to vote for both rounds of the tournament! Still, Spidey would've got my vote as would Revenge of the Mummy so I'm happy my vote wasn't needed to save them. Although I would be kicking myself now if any of those two went out.
Published: April 3, 2009 at 1:56 AMJust in case this tournament couldn't get any more predictable, we have this round.
Wow. Spidey takes Hulk. Big shocker. Not like this site praises Spidey like a god, or anything.
Oh, and Disney's last contending attraction loses to a coaster so smooth that it could only be compared to horse tranquilizers. Guess that could be a good thing.
This tournament has really brought out the worst in me. Sorry.
Published: April 3, 2009 at 5:09 AMYeah, I'm "blackout". No worries, James. It's the internet, I'm not too concerned with things. And I did read your statement before, thank you.
I plan to stick around here - it looks like a very nice site and maybe I'll be able to contribute something.
Published: April 3, 2009 at 5:20 AMAgain I shall ask; Why was the poll closed three different times last night?
Published: April 3, 2009 at 5:38 AMCongrats to Spidey and MF! Both deserving!
Published: April 3, 2009 at 5:56 AMSpider Man pulls out a squeaker, after losing all night by the same margin....weird. I guess it turns out the better ride won after all.
Looks like somebody is watching the tournament very closely, and has a theory about Spiderman's win. What's this noise I keep hearing about the polls closing 3 times last night?
Published: April 3, 2009 at 6:10 AMJames, I don't use this word often, but that song was MINT!!!
Published: April 3, 2009 at 9:20 AMOh dear, I missed this one because of the hours difference, never mind though it worked out as I would have wanted.
Published: April 3, 2009 at 12:49 PM@ Tom McGill: Next Years' tourney is going to separate out Theme rides from thrill rides and so on. There is an article somewhere that lays it all out to mitigate these things from happening next year.
And while it might be called TPI, I would say that the site as a whole has embraced all style of parks (except water parks lol) and the Theme part was probably more about the origins of the site and Robert's history of working at Disney but he can provide additional commentary if necessary.
Published: April 3, 2009 at 8:18 PMCedar Point by far is the best amusement park in the USA. May the force be with us all!
Published: April 4, 2009 at 8:36 PMI like water parks, Don. Blizzard Beach, Typhoon Lagoon, and Schlitterbahn (esp. the one being built in Kansas City) FTW!!! ;)
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