Vote of the week: Which ride most needs a refurb?
Our discussions about the most overrated
theme park attractions revealed one bit of consensus:
Several of what could be the nation's top theme park attractions really could use some TLC. Poor show quality is ruining what could be some fabulous rides. But which is the most egregious example? What's the top show maintenance problem at a major U.S. theme park attraction?
Fixing the light levels on Animal Kingdom's Dinosaur?
Getting the Yeti fully functional on Animal Kingdom's Expedition Everest?
Restoring all the show effects on Disneyland's Indiana Jones Adventure?
Repairing the audio and restoring the decor on SeaWorld Orlando's Journey to Atlantis?
Smoothing the ride and freshening the theme of Disney Hollywood Studios' Rock n' Roller Coaster?
You tell us:
Let's hear your argument, in the comments. And, as always, have a great weekend and thanks for reading Theme Park Insider!
All valid candidates, but my vote goes to JTA as the others have only one aspect of the ride that needs looking at urgently.
I'm going for one of my favourite Disney attractions Rock 'n' Roller Coaster. RnRC at DHS looks fantastic on the outside, but the theme when on the coaster isn't great. I like the fact that the route actually follows the route you would take to the concert but your average Joe isn't going to pick up on that.
Atlantis got my vote because there is many more multiple problems than the other ones.
I miss the moving Yeti. I noticed some updates to Indy when I rode it last month, including the new AA figure. The only element that really sticks out like a sore thumb is the rat section. The Imagineers were able to create a realistic smokescreen for Davy Jones on POTC, so why not use that technology to bring the rats back? That's all it really was - a film projection.
I think Expedition Everest is one of the best Disney thrill rides ever. You can call me what you will, but I don't see the problem with the Yeti. The ride is moving so fast that just seeing the Yeti adds excitement to the ride. I have not noticed the problem. I was just there this past June. DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM.
The thing about that though is that once you've seen the Yeti the way it's supposed to work, nothing comes close to it. It's not the same. Instead of it looking like a puppet just standing there with a strobe light, it looks like a living monster is reaching for you, attempting to grab your skull and rib your guts out (...or something like that)
Must fix Yeti!
Corbin has the Yeti thing down perfectly!
The fixing of the light levels in CTX/Dinosaur is not really an option unless Disney actually adds elements to those scenes. For budgetary reasons they were kept dark because scenery and animations did not need to be built and placed in there.
Expedition Everest - rode it 2 years ago with a working yeti and it was a mild thrill but fab. Without a working yeti it just isn't the same.
Dinosaur won't get much better if restored. A few good animatronics (love the lunging Carnotaurus), but by and large it's dark for a reason. Lots of empty space.
Have to vote for Everest. I think they should take it down for a month if that is what it takes to get the YETI fixed. It is just not the same. I know that is easy to say if you are not going to be there that month, but they have to get it back to A mode!!!
Time to resurrect that old standard for this vote:
Dinosaur was in good shape when I rode it last May, and no I don't think that the lighting needs to be "fixed". As I've said before, I think the lighting increases the realism of the AAs. However, there are a few effects that have been off since the ride's opening, for example the Terydactyl (sp?) that actually flew over the ride vehicles.
Very amusing, James.
Thanks...that spoof is basically all I have to hang my hat on after several years of dedicated posting.
I've got to add my two cents to the minority picking Rockin' Roller Coaster for the sole reason that the roughness of the ride takes away from the overall experience much more than the problems with those others listed. Everest, Dinosaur, etc. have a lot more going for them than RnR, so when a major thing is wrong with RnR it makes it a much worse overall ride, where the others have more to make up for something that's lacking. I much rather get off a ride and say "the Yeti could have looked better" than "gee, the Rockin Roller Coaster injured me."
I guess I just never thought that RnRC was all that rough. Seemed pretty smooth to me. Has it really gone that far down hill since my last visit in 2007?
And The Grammy goes to.....James Rao!
I humbly accept this prestigious award on behalf of oppressed, duct taped Abominable Snowmen everywhere.
Actually, on my last trip (which I will remind everyone was only last May) I found Everest to be a bit rough (although I still love the ride) but had no problem with RNR. For me, the Orlando Rough Coaster Award goes to the Incredible Hulk, for rattling and shaking all the way, and treating my cranium like a drum set. That, combined with the extreme nature of the ride, is too rough for me. How about a Hulk refurb?
Sylvain, I think that Hulk refurb will probably come along once they get Potter up and running (especially if they have to close Dragons to finish up - they couldn't possibly expect people to pay to get in if all the coasters are down).
I voted for Atlantis because it has lots of potential for more story/sound elements and it's overall a fairly fun ride.
I knew we couldn't have an Expedition Everest topic without James Rao breaking into song.
If you are prone to motion sickness, then rides like Dinosaur and the Simpsons are definitely not for you...
If a major overhaul to JTA is going to happen I would love to see Blackstone add what BEC cut from their original... having the ride go through a large aquarium with live fish! It would be expensive but awesome.
I don't have anything substantive to add to the discussion. Just wanted to say I love being part of a board where people use words like "Newtonian" and "alacrity"! And compose song parodies worthy of Weird Al! (Or at least Dr. Demento...)
I vote for Hulk. OK, its not on the list, but it should be.
I vote for Yeti -- I was just at AK last week -- My daughter and I did the single rider line but ended up on the same train -- we both looked at each other when we got off and asked "what happened to the YETI?"
I am suprised that Everest is winning. While it needs help, I would think that Atlantis would need the biggest help out of the mentioned canidates.
Even in a pristine state, JTA will never be half the ride that Everest is when the Yeti is operating in A-mode. I think that is why everyone is leaning toward Everest, Anthony.
I think the Rivers of America in Florida, and in California, are in severe need of an upgrade. More show. It's boring.
Gareth, does the Hulk give you a headache, too? This could be a great coaster, but somehow I don't think you're supposed to feel like you went a couple rounds with the big green guy himself!
Sylvain, yes, exactly that. I much prefer Hulk at the back, so the last time I went on and noticed it, I was at the very back.
Voted for Everest.
What about the Jungle Cruise at WDW Magic Kingdom? It is a classic ride, but it is older and now that they have real Animals at a park in the same resort maybe there is opportunity to just have a real Jungle Cruise (less animatronics) but still with some sort of mild adventure elements (like the waterfall and tunnel).
Maybe there are some opportunities with the Autotopia (is that it's name) at WDW. The car ride that kids like, but some adults not so much. Maybe there are opportunities to do stuff with the scenery or update it to make it a little more interesting.
Autopia at Disneyland, Tomorrowland Speedway at Magic Kingdom. Either way, you are right: they both suck! =)
Gareth, you're saying that the Hulk feels a lot smoother in the back? When you ride anywhere else, do you feel like you might pass out halfway through the ride?
As far as those who want to badmouth Tomorrowland Speedway and Autopia are concerned. What is you problem? Adults aren't the only ones who go to the Disney parks. There are children who like to ride those rides and adults who like to take their children on those rides. The whole idea of the Disney parks is for adults and children to enjoy the parks together. There are legitemate problems with some of the rides and attractions, but if it aint broke don't fix it. As they say.
If I want to ride a common cars-on-a-rail ride, I can go to my local Six Flags or Cedar Fair park. I expect a little more creativity from the #1 themed destination in the world (check out the DCA Cars Land expansion for examples of what I expect from the brilliant minds at Walt Disney Imagineering).
I think I'm the only one that feels that Dinosaur's darkness 'adds' to the experience. But I'm also weird and think it's better than Indy.
I picked Journey To Atlantis for a few reasons. 1) Unlike the other attractions, JTA doesn't present a story. Sure the attraction states "Journey" to Atlantis, but when you get there you encounter a magical seahorse, then a "medusa-like" sea-witch. Why is she there, why is she angry at you. I just never know the story behind the theming inside the ride. 2) The music. The music at the beginning fits the ride perfectly, the second half of the ride you hear the same music from the film "Beetlejuice" and I wonder, did SeaWorld get permission to use this music as I believe Beetlejuice is made by Universal. So if SeaWorld were to do a major refurb on this ride, I would suggest a pre-show to introduce the story to the riders, and I would also change the music on the second half of the ride. If the "Sea-witch" is indeed out to get you, I would suggest some music thats a little more sinister/adventurous.
The cyclone in Brooklyn it needs to be smoothed out and a lot more lights. also the astrotower should get a new cabin and should also have more lights. The wonderwheel cars should be fixed and lights should be added.
No, you're not the only one who feels that darkness adds to the experience on Dinosaur. I think it builds up atmosphere and ambience, not to mention make the AAs look more lifelike and realistic.
It isn't on your list, but I would suggest that Disneyland's Toontown needs a good refurb. All sorts of fun things there, but most seem to have had better days. Also visited Tomorrowland's Starcade recently which seems less Mickey Mouse and more Chuck E. Cheese -- Disney can do better.
Unlike the Disneyland version of the area, the Magic Kingdom's Toontown is getting the ultimate makeover: it is
Personally, I think that Everest really would be improved with the Yeti working because honestly it's a pretty tame/lame ride otherwise. Go forward then backwards... It is really rough though!!!! I think that the attraction that really needs a refurb is the Magic Kingdom Railroad. Think about it, the scenery that was so great 30 years ago is dated, it could use better animatronics and honestly could someone put a cleanup crew on picking up trash beside the tracks. Now don't get me wrong I understand that this is low priority, but you can see packaging that hasn't been used in over a decade on the ground. It's like a marketing trip back in time on rails.
I was not thinking that Tommorowland Speedway needed to be removed, I think a lot of family's enjoy the ride, I was mainly saying it is a great candidate for refurbishment. Driving a car is not very tommorowland anyway, so maybe it should be fitted in with fantasyland now. I was thinking they could possibly do something to make the scenery more interesting while driving. Maybe change it so that you drive through scenery of some sort.... maybe a mountain area with some tunnels or a fake city or something. Maybe they can play with the idea of driving though different weather. I just think they have a lot of opportunity to do something different with that ride without losing the driving a car aspect.
Rock n Roller coaster, plain and simple. I don't think that Aerosmith really fits in with Disney. The way I see it, they can go one of two ways.
Maybe our next vote could be which song / artist could be used during a rock n' roller coaster refurb.
The only time I rode Everest I am assuming the Yeti was not functioning the way it originally did since it was less than a year ago. When I rode the ride I was impressed by the overall ride so the Yeti was not a big deal, Howeverm I guess I need to experience this ride with the originally functioning Yeti because the way some of you talk the original Yeti mode must have been pretty cool!
I think Revenge of the Mummy at Florida needs a rehab, but only at one part. The first mummy animatronic you see. It looks terrible. And the soul effect he uses on the kid. That was pretty bad too. I bet they could fix those 2 problems very quickly.
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