Vote of the week: What should replace Cars Land in Disney's Hollywood Studios plans?
Published: September 13, 2013 at 2:46 PM
Now that we know Cars Land won't be coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios
in Walt Disney World after all, we move on to the next question: What else will Disney do to attract more visitors to this park? We know that Star Wars land is coming, and Imagineers have said privately that a second expansion for the park remains on the table, even if that won't be Cars Land.
So now's the time for fans to lobby for a favorite. We'll offer a few options in this week's vote, and we invite you to make the case for your favorite idea, in the comments.
Inside the Monsters Inc. lobby at Tokyo Disneyland
The obvious place to start is to replace Cars with one of the many other popular Pixar animation franchises. Toy Story's already in Hollywood Studios' Pixar Place, and a Monsters Inc. door room coaster ride long has been suggested for the old soundstage area next door to that. Could the rest of the studio tour space be converted into Monstropolis? Disney's built two other dark rides based on the franchise: one in Tokyo Disneyland and one in Disney California Adventure. Bringing one of those over to join the door room coaster could be an easy way to plus this area.
As for other Pixra franchises, Disney's building a Ratatouille dark ride at DHS' sister park in Paris. And The Incredibles would give Disney the opportunity to build a superhero-themed land even though Universal owns the Orlando-area rights to Disney's Marvel characters.
If not Pixar, Disney now owns several other popular franchises that could slide into what would have been Cars Land's space. How about a new Muppets theater and/or dark ride? And maybe a Muppets-themed play area to replace Honey, I Shrunk the Kids?
Looking for something with more thrills? How about relocating Indiana Jones? Disney probably wouldn't want to bring the Indy ride from Disneyland or Tokyo DisneySea to DHS, as its the same ride system and layout as Animal Kingdom's Dinosaur. But there's an Indy-themed coaster at DisneySea, as well as at Disneyland Paris. That'd fit nicely in DHS' old backlot, next to a new home for the stunt show in the old Lights, Motors, Action facility.
Disney could "pull a Universal" and license someone else's property, too, as it has for James Cameron's Avatar at Animal Kingdom. The top film properties, in all-time box office, that aren't being used in active licenses in major U.S. theme parks include James Bond, Lord of the Rings, and (wait for it) Twilight. Yes, we know that Universal's been after Lord of the Rings. But if Universal could sign Harry Potter away from Disney, maybe Disney could return the favor with an upset signing of the J.R.R. Tolkien classic. (Hey, we're dreaming here….) And I'm suggesting Twilight merely because I want to see some heads explode in the comments.
The final option? Forget bringing anything new. Let Disney load up Hollywood Studios with even more Star Wars, creating a double-sized land that wraps around half the park.
Please tell us your dream scenario for an expanded and improved Disney's Hollywood Studios. And, as always, thank you for reading Theme Park Insider!
Published: September 13, 2013 at 3:12 PM
Journey to the Centre of the Earth
Published: September 13, 2013 at 3:24 PM
I would pretty much do this...
If anything, I'd add an addition Star Wars attraction to that land, and maybe a walkthrough experience for Indiana Jones, though I'm not sure if there would be any room for them. In any case, I think it's a great re-imagining of the park that would put Disney on top of the movie theme park game. Because, as it stands, Universal is doing a lot to bring their parks into the modern age while Disney (particularly at DHS) has been content to rest on their laurels.
Published: September 13, 2013 at 3:25 PM
I'd think one or more of the Pixar properties would be a natural for that section of the park due to it's proximity with the Pixar Studios area, which in it's present form is quite small. I'd be comfortable with that as long as it was E ticket quality with a smaller C or D ticket attraction accompanying it. My dream first choice would be the DLR Indiana Jones attraction, but there's no way that would happen due to Dinosaur in AK.
Published: September 13, 2013 at 3:25 PM
The Lord of the Rings is not a good idea. J.R.R. Tolkien hated Disney.
Published: September 13, 2013 at 3:30 PM
I was thinking last night that it was odd there's no Incredibles attraction yet. It would be a good fit for Florida since they can't do anything with Marvel out there.
Published: September 13, 2013 at 3:48 PM
My most favourite thing was not in the list and that is a unique attraction/show/ride. I love to see a show based in Hollywood in the 20s. A big show that fits the style of the era with nods to old movies (not from the 20s) like Casablanca and the Wizard of Oz.
With all the hug zones in MK this park needs one and I want a Jessica Rabbit hug zone in a toontown land. The Roger Rabbit movie played in Hollywood and was about movies.
Btw I did the Indie coaster (backwards) at DLP and it was crap. That is not a ride you want.
I also wish they'll start removing the hat and the stage and put more small classy musical shows in that beautiful main street to make it more appropriate for the time it's reflecting and keep the load stomping sounds somewhere dedicated at the back of Rock'n Rollercoaster.
And finally I want them to make an app for the Beauty and the Beast stage show so I can start using my iPad with games and stuff to "enhance" the show (or in other words get me trough that boring old show).
Published: September 13, 2013 at 3:49 PM
I think they should rethink the Cars idea, if not the whole land then how about just the ride and maybe a place for the kids to have a meet n great for photos. Then they could use the rest of the area for expanding Pixar. Just my thought.
Published: September 13, 2013 at 4:40 PM
The Incredibles could be good.
But I'm surprised there isn't a Wall-E attraction yet (even something in tomorrowland would be cool)
Or there's Up. The balloon ride to Paradise Falls in South America could be something cool.
Published: September 13, 2013 at 5:03 PM
How about a pixar version of "ToonTown".... Could label it as "Pixar Studios" which is where the characters come to work.
Published: September 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM
Wow, some of these ideas are fantastic! Even though my personal vote was for MORE STAR WARS, just because the franchise is so near and dear to my heart and the mythology is so incredibly rich for mining, I would absolutely love to see an Incredibles attraction, or Wall-e or even Up. All great ideas. I suppose it's possible that the window of opportunity may have passed on Wall-e or Up, but I'll bet the Incredibles has enough staying power to still draw interest.
Published: September 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM
As much as I love Marvel, I wish Disney would develop more of their own property into rides instead of spending the money for rights to other things, first. As a kid, the appeal to ride the Fantasyland rides was because I had loved the movies.
An Incredibles ride similar to the Amazing Spiderman at Islands of Adventure would be a lot of fun.
Published: September 13, 2013 at 5:49 PM
I will never accept the same ride system layout argument for not bringing the Disneyland Indy ride to WDW. Universal proved that you can have the same ride tell multiple stories. Hell Disney's dark rides more or less use the same system to tell different stories. Really though they should relocate Indy to Animal Kingdom and completely gut the Dinosaur area to give him plenty of space.
Published: September 13, 2013 at 5:55 PM
It's not just that Indiana Jones is the same ride system as Dinosaur. It's an identical track layout, too.
Published: September 13, 2013 at 8:09 PM
I wish they would build an Incredibles area because my sons LOVE that movie. They really love superheroes. The thing I love about the Incredibles is that I think it encourages kids to invent their own superhero characters, because in the Incredibles movie there were all sorts of these background heroes that no one had ever heard of before. I think Disney could blow Superhero Island out of the water if they wanted.
Honey I Shrunk the Kids should be re-themed to Bug's Life. And I think the "Streets" area should be turned into Monstropolis from Monsters Inc. Let that be a big Pixar area.
I actually wish they'd build an UP attraction at Disney Animal Kingdom, since they could have Carl's house in a South America themed area of that park. I think Ratatouille belongs in EPCOT in the France section.
I'd love to see a kids' area built around the Muppet Studios theme. I actually think the Great Movie Ride could be reimagined as a Muppets attraction...with the Muppets characters playing the roles of the famous movie parts. It would be a way to freshen up that attraction and also give the Muppets a new thing to do in the parks. It would also be great to have just all the Disney characters be put into the Great Movie Ride, with Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, Donald, and (yes) Roger Rabbit acting out the movie roles. I just think this would be more interesting and fun than going past the current figures representing movie characters.
I think anything Indiana Jones should go in either Adventureland at MK or it should be used for Animal Kingdom (because an Indy ride could easily be built around him searching for some mythical creature on whatever continent he needs to be on). I don't think he's the best fit for DHS.
If I could think outside the box for DHS, I'd want a Wizard of Oz land that would be built concurrently with Star Wars Land. I think there's so much potential if they build the Emerald City: they could have several rides in there but also a very elegant restaurant and a children's area setup like the China Town village or Munchkinland. If Star Wars Land skews more to boys than a Land of Oz could skew more to girls. Though I think both genders will enjoy either land.
It makes so much more sense to me to put Oz at DHS than it does to try to cram Oz into Fantasyland at MK or Disneyland. All of that glittering emerald and gold would look gorgeous in the Florida sun. From the recent Oz movie with James Franco they'd have that balloon ride...and they could do a witch's ride on broomsticks or with flying monkeys from her perspective (or riding on bubbles like Glinda).
I think DHS needs to retheme itself to "the park where movies come to life"...and so the attraction would no longer be about taking people behind the scenes of movies but letting them step into the worlds of movies. Star Wars, Wizard of Oz, the Pixar Movies. The other thing I'd like to see more of are classic Disney movies represented...the older ones that people today forget about, like Cat from Outer Space or Escape From Witch Mountain. Maybe the Great Movie Ride could be remade with ONLY Disney movies represented. That would be a lot of fun, and a chance for newer generations to discover the old classics.
Published: September 13, 2013 at 11:25 PM
I voted for "One of the other Pixar properties," but really I want several of the other Pixar properties. It's right near Pixar Place, so let's get a lot of them represented instead of just Toy Story and one other. Throw the Monsters Inc Coaster in next door to Midway Mania. Build an Incredibles ride, a Ratatouille ride, heck even a Brave ride. Let's get some diversity. I want a little of everything.
Published: September 14, 2013 at 3:22 AM
To really get the park up to scratch i think in addition to star wars land they need to expand pixar place and add a really big and thrilling Indiana Jones mine coaster. Plus it's
always amazed me how Hollywood studios never got a roger rabbit attraction!
Published: September 14, 2013 at 5:49 AM
Published: September 14, 2013 at 7:51 AM
Actually regarding Indie roller coaster, the original plans were a much bigger and more immersive coaster then what has been built, including an indoor dark ride portion, but like everything Disney Paris, they got a scaled back cheap version of an otherwise spectacular ride concept. I think if DHS got that original Indy roller coaster concept it would be amazing.
Personally regarding pixar I would love an Up ride similar to the Peter pan ride but on a larger scale with larger show sets. The movie was charming and I'm sure a ride would be aswell. Its never to late to make a ride based on a great film. Pinocchio in Fantasyland was built in1983, 43 years after that film!
Published: September 14, 2013 at 12:01 PM
EXPAND!!!!! PIXAR PLACE come on out incredibles ride , up , and radiador springs racers make the land pixar looking type of ALL the pixar movirs and rebuild pizza planet and make it exactly like in the movie ad ratatoulie restaurant
Published: September 14, 2013 at 12:25 PM
The Villains land is actually a great idea. I was at "Unleash the Villains" last night at the Studios, and it was insanely busy and the crowd was fanatical. It felt like Christmas week at the park. Took us 45 minutes to get from the toll plaza to a parking spot (part of that was poor planning as to how busy it would be). I think that proved just how crazy people get over villains, and a villain land would be very popular.
I too agree that just because Indy at Disneyland is the same ride system as Dinosaur, doesn't mean it can't come to DHS. They are separate parks. Universal has Transformers at one park and Spiderman at the other, and no one is complaining. I wouldn't replace Dinosaur with Indy, wouldn't make sense, but I would love to see it replace the stunt show at Studios.
Personally my favorite idea is a Muppets land, because I hold them near and dear to my heart; there is no TV/movie franchise I love more than the Muppets. I would love to see the Great Muppet Movie ride idea rehashed. I just don't see this happening. Muppetvision 3D and the new Muppets movie are just not popular enough, which is extremely unfortunate and hard to understand, with Disney's key demo to make them greenlight much more than a refurb of Muppetvision.
So the most likely idea, and one I'd definitely be happy with, is Monstropolis. I've always wanted a door coaster ride, and they could bring the dark ride from DCA or Tokyo too. Plus New York Street could become Monstropolis itself, with lots of cool buildings and stores, and they could have an actual Harry Hausen's restaurant.
Published: September 14, 2013 at 6:53 PM
I'd like to see Pixar Place expanded to represent many different Pixar films, especially those not at other Walt Disney World parks. Perhaps an E-ticket Incredibles ride and a copy of the Ratatouille dark ride opening in Paris could anchor the expansion and C/D ticket attractions could be added representing Wall-E, Up, and possibly Brave, along with one or two restaurants and shops.
If not Pixar, I think a giant Star Wars land would be better than the other choices. Indiana Jones and the Muppets just aren't as big now as they used to be, and non-Disney properties do not belong in a Disney park. However, I'm fine with just about anything provided it isn't a clone of something in California.
Published: September 14, 2013 at 8:20 PM
I've always said that WDW needs an Indy ride. A new one, based on the later movies, maybe. At least it should be different from all the other Indy rides around the world.
Published: September 14, 2013 at 9:30 PM
Disney Hollywood Studios has long has entertaiment from the Indiana Jones and Star Wars movies, but I thought it has been long overdue to be upgraded from the Indiana Jones stunt show and Star Wars motion simulator ride.
Star Wars land is on the way and I dont know many detail, but assume there will be at least 1-2 major rides. It's time I think also for a major Indiana Jones ride.
Published: September 15, 2013 at 12:10 AM
I really wish they would build the Mystic Point ride from Hong Kong over here in America. Failing that...then yes, I like the idea of doing something with the villains.
Published: September 15, 2013 at 6:32 AM
I am disappointed that Cars Land will not be coming to Hollywood Studios, I thought that would have been a great addition with Toy Story. I don't think we need any more Star Wars. I think they ought to get rid of Indiana Jones and maybe even get rid of Stitch. I think those two have pass their time. I think some other Pixar type attraction should be put near toy story and keep with the theme of Pixar.
Published: September 15, 2013 at 5:48 PM
DHS suffers from being a half-day park. Disney can't seem to get past the idea that if people will pay to visit a park, it must be ok. DHS is not OK.
DHS needs a minimum of 4 additional rides. Not replacements of existing rides - 4 more. At least 1 should be an E ticket ride and the others D ticket rides.
What I fully expect to see is a couple of new restaurants, a couple of next gen queues, and another couple of walk thru exhibits (probably to promoted Lone Ranger after it's epic box office fail!)
I have to say that basing anything on Star Wars is probably risky. Remember, Disney will be making the films from here on out. You know, the folks that brought you Dinosaur, the remake of the Parent Trap, The Lone Ranger and other smash hits.
Whatever they decide, Disney has to get off of their collective butts and *do*. Promises of amazing things to come in 5 or 6 years just don't cut it. While I know that many of the folks on here are die-hard Disney fans who discount what happens in other parks, Universal is running circles around Disney these days. And they deliver instead of making far distant promises. I have annual passes to both and Universal is seeing more of me and Disney less.
Published: September 15, 2013 at 6:33 PM
David, I think Star Wars will be fine with Disney. The fact that J.J. Abrams is directing this first film is already a positive sign.
Besides, the prequels (under Lucas & Fox) weren't exactly critically acclaimed or loved by the fans......and the franchise is as strong as ever.
In a way, you could almost say Star Wars is critic proof. There's such a rich history with the merchandise, films, books, series, conventions, characters, etc.
It's a part of pop culture......and as long as Disney doesn't stray from the formula (I.e., turning the franchise into something it's not, like a gross out comedy or an urban dance series), Star Wars will be fine.
Published: September 15, 2013 at 8:01 PM
Stitch needs a good attraction. Wasn't he developed at the Studios before they shut down the animation studio?
Published: September 15, 2013 at 11:48 PM
I've been saying for years they should do something with The Incredibles. I know the creator probably wouldn't green light something like that unless he had a spectacular idea, but what a great way to segue into an Incredibles 2 movie than to usher it in with a ride?
Anyway, as mentioned already, having Incredibles in the parks lets them satisfy that superhero itch without utilizing Marvel. Sad to say that they can't use Marvel, but hey.
Published: September 16, 2013 at 4:14 AM
Not just more Star Wars -- but all Lucasfilms! Re-theme the entire park. Show Universal that Disney does not compete with them by scrapping the whole movie studio as a theme idea and re-imagine the park as a land of Lucasfilms! Starwars and Indiana Jones will be the primary anchors, but Rock-n-Roller Coaster could be re-themed to the Tucket movie...or American Graffiti. The tower of terror would have to be re-themed as well -- perhaps an Indy plummet of some sort -- A live action Howard the duck show? LOL -- Disney owns all of that, right? Move Fantasmic! to Animal Kingdom and create a whol enew water theater show with lasers and the entire Star Wars crews....The pratically shut down Disney's California Adventure when building Buena Vista Street and Cars Land...they can do the same in Florida....with a promise to bring all of George Lucas' films to life....and don't forget...Willow looks like something out of LRR ;)
Published: September 16, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Here's my plan that will consist of a general Pixar Place expansion and the area itself will be like walking around the Pixar studio lot in Emeryville. Here is what would be situated in this area:
-E Ticket Incredibles ride similar to the KUKA arm one they had planned for DCA
-D Ticket Monster's Inc ride which would be the Door Coaster once planned for DHS back in 2008
-C Ticket Wall-E omnimover ride which will give the park a nice people eating, kid friendly ride the park is in definite need of.
*All of which will have high quality AA's*
Rest of the area:
-Honey I shrunk the Kids play area converted into a Bug's Life play area
-Cars merchandise shop
-Cafe La Ratatouille Quick Service Restaurant
-UP house (like the one in the film with the ballons on it) Meet and Greet with AA Kevin and Dug
-And lastly, a Brave themed restroom
There's my idea, now let's get on board, TDO!
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