Walt Disney World makes Midway Mania available via Fastpass+ only
Walt Disney World today made its popular Toy Story Midway Mania
ride available only via advance reservation. The test lasts through Thursday, and requires everyone who wants to go on the shoot-'em-up ride at Disney's Hollywood Studios
to make an advance reservation through Disney's Fastpass+ system. A Disney spokesperson told the Orlando Sentinel
that Disney is increasing the number of Fastpass+ reservations available for the ride, presumably to take over the capacity opened by the elimination of the stand-by queue.
Are you at Walt Disney World this week? What do you think about making Midway Mania — or any other highly popular attraction — available via advance reservation only?
I had a feeling this is where they wanted to go when they first announced Fastpass Plus, and this test just confirms it. I can see the benefit in eliminating bottlenecks at a few choice attractions, but in general I do not like it.
So...if the standby line is the Fastpass+ line, isn't that just going to make you have an hour wait for a fastpass?
Definitely needed for the ride. The queues are longer than any other attraction in the Disney parks.
Not a smart move for Disney. We already have our Fastpass scheduled for this, but would not be happy if we did not!
It doesn't matter how long the line is, if guests are willing to wait in it, then they should be able. If guests are not waiting in line at TSM, then they will be waiting in another line somewhere else or clogging the open space within the park. The theoretical elimination of standby lines essentially reduces the effective capacity of the park. I think this is a horrible idea. It's even worse that TSM is a top Tier attraction, meaning if you reserve a FP+ for it, you cannot reserve one for Rock N' Rollercoaster until you've used up your 3 FP+ reservations for the day. If you had strategized to get to the park at rope drop to ride TSM through the standby line, and instead make a FP+ reservation later in the day for RNR, you're plans are now officially screwed.
Can someone explain what the theoretical benefit is supposed to be for this line system? Maybe if I understood the intent of this change better I would be less than 100% against the idea.
Another artificial solution by Disney. If they truly wanted to make TSM less of a bottleneck they should add real-world ride capacity, either by enlarging TSM or building more quality attractions at DHS. Look at DCA: TSM is not even that popular in terms of wait times in Cali. And in Florida it's a top tier attraction. I think this speaks for itself...
Fastpass+, in general, is a bad thing for theme park guests based on my trip to WDW and using it for the first time.
It's to take a larger number of guests out of the standby line and place them into the park in hopes that they will spend more money on food or merchandise. The number of riders per hour should actually increase just slightly since the ride will go from three separate loading lines down to a single loading line. It's honestly a great buisness move on Disney's behalf.
I want a vacation, for Christ´s sake, and if I have to plan everything in advance, then it´s simply not fun anymore. I´m so sick and tired of all this Mymagic+ stuff that, for the first time in a decade, I am not going to WDW this year.
Waits are generally less onerous at Anaheim's Disneyland. Try the ride at California Adventure, who also has Soarin'. Both rides are usually under 1 hour (typically 45 minutes or less).
How far in advance? Do I have to do this online or can I still get a Fastpass reservation at the kiosks when I get to the park?
That's the big question. A bunch of TSMM FP+ slots came available today, but I don't know if Disney's making all the extra capacity for tomorrow through Thursday available all at once or holding some back each day for in-park reservations at the kiosks.
This is ridiculous. As someone said earlier, why should people not be allowed to wait for a ride if they are willing to?
This is terrible. I don't usually stay onsite at Disney, so there's no guarantee that I'll have a chance to reserve my spot. With all the hordes of guests who do stay onsite, I might not even have the chance to get a spot using FastPass+. I'm always at park openings at the crack of dawn and now I'm going to be told that I can't get on a ride with a minimal wait time? No thank you. I know some people are going to praise Disney for managing to get people out of lines and into shops, but this is a horrible idea and it should not survive the testing stage.
I understand that this is a test just for this week (so far), but does anyone have a handle on how a guest who shows up at TSM without a FastPass+ reservation will be handled if that guest has a Disability Access Service (DAS) card? If the DAS guest is allowed access to the attraction, will all members of his party also be allowed entry? WDW should have some additional capacity to handle situations that run outside the designated norm, No? Thanks.
I completely disagree with everyone here. I think there is some merit to this idea. Whether there is FP or FP+ or standby does not change the hourly capacity of the ride. The loading is happening (more or less) consistently throughout the day, from where the loading queue is fed.
Question: If the only way you can ride this now is to reserve a fast pass.... will Disney be altering it's Tier system or allowing you that extra fast pass to not count against you? The biggest issue with this is you can only book it once and you can't book it with another attraction in the same Tier.
I don't know how well it will go over especially at park open when unsuspecting guests fly over there to an empty queue and be denied entry due to not having a fastpass+. I just am one that never figured out how to use fastpass successfully and preferred when the lines were all standby and loading times were faster.
"To have maximum capacity AND minimal wait? It's brilliant."
I would be okay with this for Toy Story Midway Mania (and other headliners) if and only if:
Yet another really stupid move by Disney. I just returned from a two-week trip to Walt Disney World and FastPass+ is absolutely ridiculous. It doesn't work half the time, and Guest Relations seemed to think that the best way to "fix" it was to delete the FastPasses that we had booked and reassigned new ones -- for different attractions and at different times (he said we were just "out of luck" for meeting Anna and Elsa and for the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train FastPasses that he deleted).
Going to WDW is becoming a real pain in the a**. Sure there was always something to contend with when choosing this destination for your vacation. The crowds, heat, strollers, temper tantrums from children and adults alike, over priced souvenirs and torrential downpours in the blink of an eye. Still, it was always par for the course and it felt like a vacation despite all of the afore mentioned.
I'm really surprised by the timing of this test. This is a fairly busy time with the Food and Wine Festival in full swing, Halloween Party, and many school systems having fall break. I would think they would want to try this in a less crowded/active season.
I wouldn't start to panic that this is "the way of the future" just yet. It's been widely reported that TSMM is getting a 3rd theatre as part of the work on Soundstage 1. Is it not likely that Disney will then use 1 theatre for FastPass+, then retain the other 2 as stand-by lines? That should improve availability of FP+, as well as lightening the wait times for stand-by guests?
"I wouldn't start to panic that this is "the way of the future" just yet. It's been widely reported that TSMM is getting a 3rd theater as part of the work on Soundstage 1."
I think Disney should spend more time increasing the number of attractions at that park instead of tinkering with peoples movements and causing them to micromanage and rush around.
Unlike the other here I'm all for it. I don't mind planing my day around having to be at a specific ride at a certain time, it makes it easier for me to enjoy the parks and concentrate on what I'm there for; having fun!
If someone wants to wait in line for an hour or two, let them. I guess I won't be going to WDW anytime soon if they continue to roll this "test" out to other attractions. I'm not someone who likes to plan out my day 100%, so the more they move towards FP-Only attractions, the less likely I'll go to the park.
I tend to be one of the Disney apologists, but they really need to get a handle on crowd control. Just looking at the wait times yesterday, a Monday in early October when school is in session is proof. At 5 or so yesterday there was a 45 min. wait for Haunted Mansion while 20 min. for Harry Potter and the Forbidden journey. Certainly apples to oranges, but that just should not be. The Fast Pass Plus is extending wait times for attractions that traditionally did not have long waits, and it is only getting worse. I hate to say it, but they should go back to the old system for that reason alone. They also must, must make a fifth gate. That will add to crowds, but spreading things around might help.
I really dislike this idea. I never minded waiting in the line for Toy Story Mania. In fact as I looked around nobody else seemed to mind either. Once I waited for almost 2 hours. The thing I dislike, is that you can't even reserve fastpass tickets within 2 weeks of going .The are always gone immediately when they come out. Then what about the people who don't know about fastpass plus and come for a visit, waiting for that ride, and cannot get on. Or the people who don't have computers. Please rethink this Disney!
It is quite obvious that they need to ramp up the attractions count in the 3 non-Magic Kingdom parks. FP+ has proven to me that it works as long as it doesn't implode upon its own weight. EPCOT, DHS, and AK each have nearly twice as much attendance as California Adventure. Despite their high attendance, the ride count at each park is less than half as much as DCA. The math doesn't add up. Plus, some rides don't exactly alleviate the crowds due to neglect or outdateness.
The problem with Disney's fast pass plus is that begins with the original fastpass situation. Which has been an issue since day one when It was introduced. Before they rolled it out, way back when, lines were really no longer than twenty minutes to about forty five minutes on the most popular attractions. Non E-tickets had ten minutes to about twenty minutes and shows you only had to wait for the next show to begin. That was on non peak and on peak things attractions waits were up by fifteen to thirty minutes. Which was really not that bad. But do to impatient guests and greedy Disney corporate, Disney saw a profit making opportunity. So fast pass was designed from the get go to not make guests lives easier and their day to go quicker. That is all a Ruse. The real purpose was to get complaining guest to spend money on merch and food. While making day guest who waited in long standby lines to not be able to do a park in a day. That way you would have to extend your trip to Disney instead of going anywhere else.
I will be there next Wednesday so I can tell you what is going on.
$1.5 billion spent on magic bands and my magic plus. If Disney had spent a fraction of that on the parks instead, guests would not need to wait in lines for 2 hours. Everybody could visit their favorite attractions when they felt like it and as often as they felt like it. A vacation is supposed to be spontaneous and fun. Disney is removing the spontaneity and killing the fun. I hope the $1.5 billion spent on the magic band surveillance stealth marketing system was worth it.
I'm loving all the hate and "I'll never go again" that's going on here. Thanks for making more room for me.
I made the mistake of going there to ride that particular ride Monday. I was really mad early in the afternoon, when I sought to obtain a fastpass for this attraction, and was told, "Sorry! We're all out for today!" Epic fail, Disney.
I don't mind waiting in line, as long as everybody else is too.
"Despite their high attendance, the ride count at each park is less than half as much as DCA."
"Before they rolled it out, way back when, lines were really no longer than twenty minutes to about forty five minutes on the most popular attractions."
i have been in and around the industry for some time now and i see what Disney is trying to do here and it breaks down to two words - Traffic Control
Disney World is just really in a sad shape right now. The management seems to have no direction, band-aids left and right. Since I'm a local and have passes to both Disney and Universal, I actually feel stressed out going to Disney! I'm just going to spend my money at Universal...It seems they have their act together and are investing and building at fast pace. Disney may be the king right now, but just like in Game of Thrones---Kings can get an ax to the head of they lay around not doing anything for long. I just don't understand why they have let the Florida parks sink this low!?!
I do not like it - my husband and I are very spontaneous, so planning every single move while on vacation just makes it less appealing. I do not want to think ahead and make a reservation for a ride let alone dining. I just want to go and enjoy myself, not be on a schedule for everything. I might feel differently when I get there.
Was in Disney in September this fastpass system happened to us at Be My Guest for lunch and we couldn't get in. Did not think it was fair since I had no idea that they changed the system. I paid for my ticket that was to include all attractions and I had no problem waiting in line for lunch, as my daughter and I did on two separate days in January 2013. Was very disappointed that Disney is dening people access to attractions that they paid for and are willing to wait for.
Its a fair idea but they should consider mixing the two having two lines and every other program for reserved guest and those that do not now about it. or every other day reserved, or selective days a week . And on reserved days a line for standby guest to replace those with reservations who do not show up on time. "Not there on time lose your spot inline." Thanks
You can only make FP selections for one park one day. So there for why do you need a Park Hopper? If you can't go to another park and have a FP that you can use then there is no need for Park Hopper. It cost Disney nothing to give people the right to Park Hop. It costs a family of 5 around $300 to have a Park Hopper. And cost Disney nothing. I spoke with one of the employees that was in on some of the planning and he said everyone told them it wasn't a good Idea. So 45 days out you pick Test Track on the one day you can go to Epcot and it rains sorry about your luck The set up before was fine you walk up and get your FP for a couple of hours later. The Mouse only sees dollar signs. Walt Disney wouldn't be Happy with this plan.
Terrible idea. Why deny the people who couldn't or didn't for whatever reason make a fast pass reservation the chance to ride this if they're willing to wait? And there are many reasons - most of which previous posters have covered - why they might not be able to make a reservation. How about enlarging the ride instead?
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