Anyway, I am not going to vote for Fire because I voted for Ice and I think there are more or less the same and suprised they were not packaged into one attraction on the bracket. The others are not too hard today!
While I love Disney, I gotta give it to the other parks today. Spiderman is just great and Krackken is one of the best roller coasters I have ever been on! Perfect!
Themed rides that tell immersive stories are so fundamentally different from thrill rides with after-thought theming that I'm not even sure they can be compared. Simply spraying red paint everywhere and putting an "S" at the front of the first car doesn't mean much in terms of theming a Superman ride, but it may be a great thrill full of drops and loops. I feel like we're comparing apples and chainsaws.
A couple years ago...this would have been a tougher first pairing. The second iteration of Spaceship Earth was my favorite dark ride that was not the Haunted Mansion or Pirates. The score, script and beautiful use of lights at the finale, actually used to make me think in a philosophical light. Now, I was stunned that a ride could do that to me. However, I am not a fan of the latest refurbishment. The animatronics in the beginning are improved, but the terrible score, cheesy Jib-Jab cartoon and poor ending, have knocked this ride down a few notches.Spiderman on the otherhand needs no defense. It is the best ride at Universal and still the most advanced ride anywhere. Heck, Imagineers have acknowledged it is the ride to beat.
I have not taken a spin on Behemoth, but Montu is the best inverted coaster I have been on and takes the cake.
I can not vote for both Dragon coasters, plus Ice is the better ride. Jurassic Park in Hollywood is significantly better than its' Orlando cousin with its' two T-Rex attacks and falling jeep. It is also the best big boat flume ride on the planet with a great final drop.
Kraken is a masterpiece of a coaster. The best floorless model I have been on and the best coaster in Orlando. Mission:Space is a solid ride, but it is a glorified simulator attached to a centrifuge. Kraken easily wins.
I also think Spaceship Earth should beat Spider-Man, but that's just me. I think Spaceship Earth is really cool-the way the whole ride takes place inside the world's largest geoshpere. Go Disney!
I know Montu is going to win, and it probably deserves it, but I am going with Behemoth today just to make Joshua happy. Besides Behemoth looks like a nice ride.
Jurassic Park is a very fancy, super themed shoot-the-chutes ride. I am not a fan of shoot-the-chutes, but because it is a very good attempt at a narrative attraction, and because the setup for the final drop is so good, I am going to give it my vote today. And DD-Fire, without ICE, is not worthy of advancing.
The Kraken is probably one of the most thrilling coasters I have ever ridden. Maybe my favorite of all time. However, it has no narrative aspects at all, and very minimal decorations (what most folks seem to mistake for theming these days). Oh, but it is so smooth and so AWESOME!
Mission: Space on the other hand is one of the most original rides at any theme park (sure the basis is just a centrifuge, but like the space shot premise of the Tower of Terror, Disney engineers took the centrifuge idea beyond anything anyone else has ever attempted at a theme park). From the detailed queuing area, to the excellent intro movie, to the awesome experience itself, MS is simply one of the best thrill rides at any park. The lift off is just amazing, and the sensation of travel is maybe the best I ever experienced. Additionally, there are three excellent diversions in the post show area to complete the immersion. There is a futuristic play area for the young ones, a FREE video game area where you play the part of an astronaut who jet packs around accomplishing missions, and a team based video game that allows several dozen players, divided into two teams, to race their spaceships back from Mars to base. Very cool stuff all around this attraction. Mission: Space is a very impressive and immersive Disney masterpiece.
Neither of these attractions is going to beat Spider-Man, so my vote is irrelevant, but I think I have to go with Mission: Space today. Or maybe Kraken. Oh, I don't know!
Curse of DarKastle had become my favorite dark ride until I rode Spider-Man for the first time four months later. Wow. As much as I like the improvements on Spaceship Earth (especially the interactivity on the way down) Spider-Man is an easy choice for me.
Behemoth vs. MontuI predicted on paper that Montu will win easily but I voted for Behemoth. Now let me say that I love Montu. I've ridden every B&M inverted coaster in North America but two, and Montu is by far my favorite. BUT, I had the chance to ride Behemoth last year (with the massive overflow lines that still moved very quickly due to dispatch probably meeting the 1500+/hour capacity) and it was flawless. With the minimal restraints, tilted back seats and v-shaped seating, it was like flying through the air. Folks near King's Island will see what I mean when they get to experience this new seating arrangement with Diamondback soon. (I don't think I'll get there this year, but I would sure love to.)
I voted with what I think will win in the Fire vs Jurassic Park matchup: Fire. I've only ridden the USF version of Jurassic and I was underwhelmed by it. (USH's version was being rehabed when I was last there.) But I found Fire and Ice to be overrated too - especially with Harry Potter Land being built - all you see is construction from those coasters. Still, I figure the Orlando lovers will take Fire to a victory.
Finally Kraken vs. Mission: Space. I love Mission: Space, but it is too intense for most people. (Ok, there is the "green" side now, but that rather defeats the purpose of the ride.) I can ride Kraken over and over. Until recently I had a Busch Platinum Pass (bought 3.5 years ago with the month-to-month billing). And while I live nowhere near a Busch park, it was nice to just pop in whenever I was near one. Last October, on my way to the Orlando airport, I used that pass to drop in, ride Kraken six times (3 waits in line, plus 3 ride-agains with the Platinum pass) and then head on to the airport to fly home. I've since given up the Platinum pass - after learning on TPI I could get it much cheaper from another Busch Entertainment Group property - plus I'm waiting to see what happens with that chain (so Manta may have to wait for me) but Kraken alone was worth the (over)price(d) of admission to SeaWorld: Orlando. Go Kraken!
Oh, by the way James, vote for Mission:Space. I thought we might have a tie with Toy Story and Kilimanjaro. I want to see if the site implodes when that happens.
Spiderman was an easy decision over Spaceship Earth and may even be my favorite ride ever. The mix of 3D with a dark indoor ride is exciting and different. Spaceship Earth is a nice ride, which is informative but that is it.
I was torn between Duelling Dragons - Fire and Jurassic Park, but voted for the dinosaurs as Ice went through yesterday and I agree with other comments that they are really the same ride. I also was leaning towards Jurassic Park simply becaue of the theme of the ride and and the eeriy climb before the big drop.
Behemoth vs MontuHavn't ridden Behomoth so I had to go with Montu. A great thrill and some interesting coaster elements (although not such a fan of the butterfly loop though).
DD Fire vs Jurassic Park the ride
Other readers please note - Don't make the mistake I nearly made, the jurassic park ride is the one at HOLLYWOOD, not ORLANDO.
Went with fire, one of the best coasters (when coupled with Ice, should they have entered together? I'll leave that to the editor to decide) that I've ever ridden. Contains an excellent coaster experience that is rare these days (dueling coasters) and one of the best queue lines, although adimttedly, that's usually standard for all IOA attractions.
Kraken vs Mission SpaceUnfortunately I haven't ridden Mission Space but I doubt it would beat Kraken. That coaster is one of the smoothest rides I've experienced. Pure enjoyment throughout.
I also prefer Hollywood's version of Jurassic Park to Florida's. You get far wetter, with its recent modifications, and the cozier feel of Hollywood's setting better suits the ride, IMHO. So that became an easy call for me, over Fire. The Dueling Dragons are great coasters, but Fire's not as strong an all-around attraction as Hollywood's Jurassic Park.
If y'all don't Spider-Man into at least the final four, I'd seriously consider wiping out the site's registration database, banning everyone here and starting over with a new crop of readers. ;-) Or, at least, inviting only the ones with the good sense to recognize Spidey's greatness.
(Yes, I'm kidding. But don't test me, okay?)
I also went with Behemoth. Haven't ridden either ride, but in that case I'm going with newer B&M over older B&M. Plus, I like encouraging more Canadian readers to get into the mix around here. Not that it appears it will matter, given how badly Montu's crushing Behemoth.
Spidey over Spaceship. Love Spaceship Earth, but come on - Spidey swing to the final four.
I'd love to say Jurassic Park stomps the Dragon, and I would if the tournament happened 6 years ago. Jurassic Park was my favorite Islands of Adventure attraction way back when, but it has become so dilapidated that it's an embarassment. Most of the dinos are off-queue (if working at all) and the whole thing just needs a good coat of paint. Dragons loads slowly and is a pretty standard ride, but it beats JP today.
The first two drops on Kraken are great, but M:S easily takes it for me. I love mostly everything about the ride and only wish it was more intense.
Since it won't matter in the final tally , I think I have to go with Mission: Space today or risk losing my Story-Over-Steel Fan Club card. But I do so love the Kraken...it is almost worth the price of admission to SeaWorld.
Raul/Josh, will my new ambassador status help me get an ADR at Le Cellier?
However, the Amazing Adventures of Spider-man is a very unique and expensive ride. How expensive? Rumors abound that it was $100 million or more. For comparison sake, Six Flags as a company is spending $100 million on new stuff across all their parks; Universal spent that much on one ride. Not many parks outside of Disney or Universal can afford to spend $100 million on a single attraction.
So your point is interesting, but also moot. For good or for ill, those types of $100+ million attractions are almost exclusive to Universal and Disney.
Don't look now...Mission: Space is making a late rally. The voting is not finished until all of the chads have been counted.
As official TPI ambassador to Canada, James Rao gets a complementary Chedder Cheese soup and front row seats to Off-Kilter.
Behemoth is very good, but I love Montu because of its intensity.
Dueling Dragons-Fire - To be honest I'm a bit baffled that this race is even close. (Although I must say that I prefer Fire's cooler half.)
Kraken is such a great floorless that I can ride over and over. Mission Space...not so much.
Montu is a great coaster.
Neither of the dragons are a particular favorite but I like Fitre over JP.
Mission Space was ambitious but not nearly as exciting as Kraken.
$100 mil or $200 mil, it doesn't matter. When most parks are used to spending $10 - $20 mil on a new A-list attraction, I don't think they can fathom spending the money it takes to build something like Spider-Man.
Busch Gardens used Spider-Man technology to build Curse of the DarKastle at what they claimed was a reduced cost (not sure what that cost was, but my guess is it wasn't cheap...$25 mil or more, maybe?). While Curse is an excellent attraction in its own right, it doesn't really hold a candle to its big brother in Orlando....
...and the real money in attractions like Spider-Man is to be first to market, which is very expensive since the technology is usually brand spanking new. After Spider-Man, everything else like it, for good or for ill, will just be a copycat.
Behemoth appears to be an outstanding coaster, right in line with all the other great B&M megas such as Apollo's Chariot. Montu is one of the best inverts around. This one will come down to personal preference rather than ride quality. I've ridden Montu though, and I'm a sucker for a good inverted coaster, so I'll go with Montu.
As I said yesterday, Dueling Dragons is one of the most overrated coasters in the tournament. Aside from the queue and one near miss during the course of the ride, there's absolutely nothing in this ride that isn't done better on another B&M invert. I really liked Jurassic Park, so it gets my vote.
I'll take a great coaster over a glorified gravitron any day of the week. Kraken wins for me.
Too bad Mission: Space is out. I think it's Epcot's best ride and is much more fun than Kraken. Oh, well - nice to see the underdog company beat the giant.
I am interested in the lack of transparency when it comes to divulging the cost of these attractions. You would think they would want to tout their big, expensive new rides instead of playing cloak-and-dagger. According to our sources, that would mean Spider-man cost $15 million less than Indiana Jones. That is impressive.
Incidentally, I wonder if the original creators of the Spider-Man comic book, Stan Lee and Steve Ditko, ever imagined that their comic would one day become one of the greatest theme park attractions in the world?
While creating a special effect for a new attraction can be expensive, a building still needs air conditioning techs, plumbers, interior and exterior partitions, painters, electricians, steel fabricators, masons and the like to get the job out of the ground. That's where a sizable chunk of the budget goes.