Published: September 21, 2009 at 1:57 PMI have to disagree that the free dining is not worth it. We booked a trip to Disney World for Dec 2009 between Xmas & New Years. Doing the MYW, dining & fun & more options. We decided to change our plans and go at Thanksgiving instead, same package, saving us $300+. Upon seeing one of you postings on Facebook I went to the suggested site and the promotion code was for the free dining. Doing this gave us everything we had originally purchased and saved us ANOTHER $800 for the dining package!!!! Last year was the first time in our 6 visits to WDW that we did the dining package and said we would ALWAYS do it! It was worth every penny we spent! We ate at places we would not have, the kids had snacks all the time...which we would not normally do, and our quick meals were more than McDonald's!!! I would personally encourage anyone to do the dining plan!!!!!
Published: September 21, 2009 at 4:35 PMThe problem with Free Dining is you almost always pay the rack rate for the room. You really have to calculate out how much you would normally spend on food if it wasn't free, and compare that savings with what you could save with a 40% room discount, or even more if you stay offsite.
Granted, for my family of five, if we ate like kings all week, free food would seem like a good deal, but if we ate like we normally do (small breakfast on the go, light lunch, moderate dinner), the room discount is always a better offer.
Think about it this way: if you stayed at the Beach Club Resort utilizing the Buy 4 Days - Get 3 Free offer, you would have saved $1000 on your room. I don't know about most folks, but $1000 worth of food - even at a theme park - seems excessive for a seven day trip. I don't even spend that much in a month at home.
Remember too that free dining does not include the tip, so if you eat at the most expensive restaurants and order the most expensive menu items, you still have to fork out an additional 18 - 20% tip on a meal that you wouldn't have even considered without free dining.
Remember, Disney is in the business of making money.... question everything. The truth is out there.
Published: September 21, 2009 at 9:49 PMMaybe I am not getting what you are saying, but free food anywhere is a PLUS for me!
As for the dining plan at Disney, my family did the math and it was cheaper doing the Deluxe plan IF we ate like that (and weighed 400 pounds each)
My view on the Dining plan was it was great deal, but way too much food! But I agree, regular Dining Plan will get you far and usually keeps you in budget.
Published: September 22, 2009 at 1:05 AMWhat's your opinion of Celebration? It's been criticized as having a Stepford Wives style atmosphere. I don't think Disney owns or manages it anymore, but the pictures I've seen make the town look nice.
Published: September 22, 2009 at 3:22 AMAnthony, I guess what I am saying is that if you do the math it is more expensive to get free food and pay the rack rate on your room, than it is to buy your food and get a discount room rate.
And, W McDougal, all I will say about Celebration is this: only travel there during the day! People are strange when you're a stranger.... ;)
Published: September 22, 2009 at 6:02 AMHow about if they add a free Water park fun and more option if you book a 6 day/5 night magic your way base package? I know that would bring me in.
Published: September 22, 2009 at 6:46 AMSorry, that was directed towards Robert's main point. One thing that I forgot was my family is DVC members so the Meal Plan is paticularly enticing since DVC is a deal over time. I guess you really have to prepare for the meal plan/know your food at WDW.
The only complaint I have is that its ALOT of food, but for the amount of food you are spending, its worth it. I also greatly enjoyed using the meal plan at Yachtsman, Hoop de Do, and the Luau. But yeah, tried it once, that was enough for us so I guess I agree with you guys...sorta
Published: September 22, 2009 at 9:35 AMCelebration is a housing development. Nothing more. If it's supposed to be an example of "New Urbanism," it's a lousy one, because you can't walk to any stores, schools or workplaces from most homes. The central business district is tiny, and even at that size, still too large to be supported by the small number of residents. (I once read that the majority of housing units in Celebration are empty - either used as second homes, bought for speculation or in foreclosure. I don't know if that's accurate, but I have seen a large number of empty homes there.)
All that said, the homes I've been in are nice. The lots are small, but that's not a huge issue for me (being used to living in Pasadena). I like the trails and it's a very convenient staging place for trips to Disney.
Published: September 22, 2009 at 10:23 AMI see your point, Robert.
For our group, however, a Disney Vacation Club was the best option on our recent vacation. Why?
Accommodation Price: For our group of eight, we would require two rooms or a suite at Universal's hotels, both of which are more expensive than the DVC rate we received by booking from the DIS Discussion Boards.
Proximity: Universal's two parks require two days of driving if I'm off-site; extra if I visit CityWalk often. Disney's parks require between four and six days of driving if I'm off-site; extra if I see the water parks, Downtown Disney, the Boardwalk, mini-putt, etc.
Extended Park Access: We only visit parks during the off-season. For this reason, the only long lines we experience are with new attractions: on our recent trip, Toy Story Midway Mania and Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit. We were able to see Midway Mania with a ten minute wait thanks to Fastpass, but Rip Ride Rockit did not have its Universal Express line open yet. Additionally, Extra Magic Hours decrease not only wait times but crowds in general. Dining and strolling after hours is much more enjoyable in an empty, cooled down park.
Dining: I would never pay full price for a DVC just to get free dining. Free Disney food for a week or more would make me lethargic and useless. Disney's DVC suites, however, provide full kitchens, making dining exceptionally cheap.
Free Parking: If I don't stay at Universal, I have to pay for Universal parking twice. If I don't stay at Disney, I have to pay for Disney parking at least four to six times, maybe more for the water parks et al.
Advantage for my group: Disney.
Published: September 22, 2009 at 2:36 PMWhen Zachary and I were down this year, I took the buy 4 deal, plus 10 day tickets with water park and Disney Quest added on. After doing the math, it saved me nearly $400. Not bad, that's why we stayed on site for part of the vacation.
Published: September 23, 2009 at 12:58 AMHaving been to Orlando on vacation from the UK a number of times i can honestly say i would never stay at Disney, sure we have visited all the parks, but as far as value for money goes Disney is just too exspensive and in my humble opinion offers far less for your money than Universal.