Published: February 9, 2011 at 7:25 AMI think it is great! Sure we all would have wished for a larger ride, but considering how hard it is to pass a roller coaster past the San Diego Council, this is a big win for us! Also, the theming looks really nice, and I am sure while the height and speed is limited it will still be a pretty fun coaster.
Published: February 9, 2011 at 9:10 AMI'm fine with it being smaller. This isn't Orlando where we have a dozen theme parks all competing with the biggest/best coasters. This is San Diego. We have three parks based on being animal conservatories. The coasters are just an extra customer draw and like the previous poster said, getting something like this past the city council is like getting blood from a rock. As long as it doesn't overshadow the needs of the animals just for the sake of being a tourist draw, it's cool. I'll definitely go there to ride it. The concept art looks pretty neat.
Published: February 9, 2011 at 9:41 AMFrom what I understand, the issue isn't the city council - it's the California Coastal Commission. Unlike the other two SeaWorlds, the original San Diego park is actually located next to the sea, on Mission Bay in San Diego.
That makes it subject to the coastal commission's regulations on development. One of those regulations restricts the heights of buildings within certain distances from the waterfront.
Where Manta is to be located, the height limit is 30 feet. So unless SeaWorld wants to bankroll a statewide ballot initiative to overrule the commission (please, for dear God in heaven, don't go there), that's what they're stuck with for now.
Now, you can correctly point out that height restrictions are widely inconsistent up and down the California coast. Port equipment soars above 30 feet. So does development along the waterfront in San Francisco. The Santa Monica Boardwalk and Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk each have waterfront attractions that exceed 30 feet.
But the commission is trying to hold the line on new development along the coast. And local support for the coastal height restrictions in San Diego County appears especially strong.
Personally, I think there's a huge difference between a roller coaster track 100 feet in the air and a 100-foot tall building. (Think total mass of the structure.) But that's not a distinction that's built into the California Coastal Code.
Published: February 9, 2011 at 3:17 PMI was about to post a point, but Robert covered it in his last paragraph. A (well-maintained) roller coaster silhouette on the coast could be very appealing, even artistic.
Regardless, this coaster seems to capture the spirit of a manta ray better. The sudden acceleration and drifting curves are more reminiscent of a manta ray's movement than a slow, steady climb followed by corkscrews, loops, and barrel rolls.
Published: February 9, 2011 at 3:39 PMBefore I viewed the video I was excited, I thought that the roller coaster would have a more massive appeal since it would allow more people to ride and enjoy it possibly.
However, After watching the video...... It seems like the not flying along part takes away from it seeming like the Manta experience somehow.... like sitting up right does not make as much since with the concept I guess. Had I not seen the flying version before, and seen how it seems to go with the swimming through the water type vibe a little more than sitting up right, I may not have thought this.
Published: February 9, 2011 at 6:53 PMI think the coaster sounds terrific! I live in Orlando and get to ride Manta East a lot, and I am already planning a trip to San Diego just to ride Manta West in 2012! Great job SeaWorld- keep it up!
Published: February 9, 2011 at 10:04 PMI like the new coaster. The San Diego park needs something new that’s more of a thrill than a chill. I think what's best is the coaster really feels like your on the back of a Manta Ray gliding, banking, and diving. Hopefully it won't disrupt the area to much, that side of the park is already jam packed with attractions and scenery. Looking at the video it looks like they are going to utilize the open picnic areas near the center of the park. After adding the new Shamu show and the Horizon's show It looks like 2012 is going to be a fresh breath of air into the park.
Published: February 10, 2011 at 12:38 AMThis is great news. SW San Diego is an excellent park and this attraction will make it better. I love the fact that the special circumstances surrounding the San Diego park doesn't stop Sea World from making this ride. 2012 is a big year for Southern California. Much like 2004 when DCA opened the Tower of Terror, Universal opened Revenge of the Mummy, and Sea World Journey to Atlantis. In 2012 we get Carsland to DCA, Transformers to USH, and now of course Manta to SWSD.
Can't wait to learn more about the layout of the ride.
Published: February 10, 2011 at 7:34 AMThanks for the news Robert and further more for explaining the regulations. I've always wonder why they get the "stink eye" when it comes to constructions. As other parks around the world do too, for different reasons I'm guessing...
Is always interesting when you get different versions of rides of attractions in the same brand parks. I personally don't like when they get the same name. It makes it less unique. For now on, there is going to be Manta- San Diego and Manta- Orlando. I would like more it they would name it differently avoiding the "Superman" attractions situation. But I understand the "Theme" side of the Manta appeal. Is always great to have new roller coasters, no matter what they're named...
Published: February 10, 2011 at 9:21 AMSo, do you think this means Sea World San Antonio is next in line for something new?
Published: February 10, 2011 at 1:02 PMOne of my Twitter followers had a great line about San Antonio's Manta. ;^)
(For background, look at what happened to Journey to Atlantis as it was copied from Orlando to San Diego, and then to San Antonio.)