Published: June 13, 2011 at 9:21 AMI always suggest to people that are going and considering buying the park hopper to take the money for it, but don't purchase it till they need it. Many times I have seen friends get it, then never use it. This can save some big bucks if you don't use it, and adding it on can be done at anytime while the tickets are valid.
I am also not a fan of the never expiring tickets because we almost always stay on-site with some kind of a promotion. Most of those promotions require purchasing a certain minimum number of days pass. Thus the non-expiring days just sit there till we decide not to stay on-site.
Published: June 13, 2011 at 9:31 AMGreat advice, Robert. I was looking at booking a trip just last week and didn't finalize it. Although checking now - either they already were factoring higher prices in the vacation planning tool - or they've yet to update that as the price is exactly the same as last Wednesday. So if you're on the fence - book now!
Another reason to consider the park hopper addition is if you're buying a dining plan that has sit down dining. The last time I did that I made plans to more or less eat in a different country in Epcot each night - which meant returning to Epcot daily even if that was the only reason and the park hopper was essential for that.
Published: June 13, 2011 at 9:36 AMI read some comments on the Disney Blog concerning this, and most of them were negative. Logically, I wonder how people expect theme parks to not increase ticket sales, when everything else has increased in price. Theme parks are a business and what do businesses want? To make a profit. Why people get so defensive about this, I will never know. My advice to people who moan and groan over increases is this...don't buy a ticket. You don't have to. It isn't a necessity.
Now that I have had my rant for the week. I do think that people who have never been to Disney World/Disneyland do need to do as much research as they can before coming. One of our trips, we sat and talked with a family from Canada who were under the impression that buying a one day base ticket allowed you to visit each of the four parks. They were shocked at how much it cost their family of five and were trying to squeeze in all of Orlando into five days. These people were also under the impression that every ride was just in the Magic Kingdom and were asking where Expedition Everest, Soarin and the Hulk coaster were on the MK map. We hated telling them that they were at the wrong park for these.
People are sadly under the impression that if you are going to a theme park for a day or two that there is no need to plan. These are the people who are complaining in line about the crowds, heat, and the prices of the place. I treat a theme park centered vacation like I would if I were to travel to another country. I make sure to map out the "must sees" and "must do's". I plan and make dining reservations. I map out time frames and alternate ways to get to where we need to be. I also make sure I have the correct prices and see if we can afford tickets, special events, souvenirs, etc.
Published: June 13, 2011 at 9:36 AMNice point, Todd, though I would also point out that most people on a Dining Plan are visiting longer than four days, too.
I have a 10-day park hopper with the no expire option, which I use to drop in for a day or two whenever I'm in town. (Full disclosure: my mother is a WDW CM, so I sometimes get into the parks for free when visiting her and she signs me in.) I think the 10-day no expire is a great option for a frequent visitor to the area who wants a quick Disney "fix" on each trip, as opposed to someone who takes a week-long (or more) annual visit to the resort. Those folks should skip the no expire and buy as they go, IMHO.
Published: June 13, 2011 at 9:55 AMI always suggest the Park Hopper. You never know if you're at Animal Kingdom (who has earlier closing hours) and finish up with hours left and want to spend a few more hours at a different park. Or to eat dinner at a country in Epcot.
I have the say the most relaxing trip I had was one where I stayed onsite and the room key = Key to the kingdom. Where the park hopper was included in my entire trip and for the duration of my stay. If we woke up and wanting to go to Blizzard Beach, we could do that if later that day we wanted to eat dinner at the Diner at Hollywood Studios & see Fantasmic, we could do that. It offered a lot of freedom to experience the entire Disney World.
Published: June 13, 2011 at 11:30 AMI bought a 10 day no expiration with the water park fun and more option from a third party vendor when I heard prices were going up. IMHO it is a great savings as we usually spend about 5 days in the park so we will get two trips out of it (probably over an 15-18 month span so APs won't do) and we now have 10 waterpark($49 /day) or disney quest($43 /day) visits that never expire. The break even on the extra $55 for the WFM add on is just over 1 visit...Of course you need to be careful not to lose the tix. But the savings can be significant.
Published: June 13, 2011 at 11:41 AMSo is it just me, or did their annual price increase come earlier this year? Isn't it usually in August? Will this be the new ticket increase time or did Disney need some fast cash and decided to rope the summer crowd into this increase early?
Published: June 13, 2011 at 11:52 AMWe always take park hopper, and on our trip in May, we made copious use of it. Some days, we visited three parks in one day: one park in the morning, water park in the afternoon when it got too hot, and a third park at night. Another time, we switched to the Magic Kingdom after a day at EPCOT, to catch the Electrical Parade at 9. By keeping an eye on the Times Guide, you can switch to whichever park has the event that you want to experience.
Also, I wouldn't recommend a four day trip for "rookies." It's impossible to see and do everything you want in four days, unless you completely run yourself ragged. Give yourself enough time to explore at a leisurely pace; that's why they call it a vacation.
Published: June 13, 2011 at 8:51 PMwait so if you get the no expire one, it'll never expire ever? you can use it anytime?
Published: June 14, 2011 at 12:03 AMI think the parkhopper thing is a waste for the most part unless you just have to have it. All the parks have so much in them that running from park to park just is a waste of time to me. Unless you only like Disney for a select few rides that happen to spread out over several parks I don't see the point.... I want to enjoy the day and not run myself ragged trying to go to Animal Kingdom for one ride, and then Epcot for another.
Published: June 14, 2011 at 12:06 AMAlso Robert, when checking out prices before I noticed that the Water Parks seemed like a rip off if you used your Magic Your Way passes..... the single day water park pass is way less than a day at a regular park and then if your doing Magic Your Way passes for the all the parks I think there is an additional charge for waterparks (that is different from the park hopper charge). So unless you are staying a really really long time you'd probably be using a day of your pass that is worth more than the pass to the water park would be.....
Published: June 14, 2011 at 6:27 AMCongrats, Robert -- just heard you quoted by a Bloomberg reporter on how the WDW price increases won't discourage attendance.
Personally, I think the new prices will force people to put a little more thought into their ticketing decisions as to hopping or other add-ons, and QS dining might become considerably more popular.
Can I have your autograph?
Published: June 14, 2011 at 8:10 AMPersonally, I think the prices are way too high for a family. It made me think carefully on what I exactly want to get out of my vacation. Maybe I don't want to do only Disney in my 7 day trip. How about 2 days at Disney and 2 days at Universal, with one half day at the Space Center? I will reserve an extra day to visit a water park. You see, I can spend nearly the full price for a 2 day Disney pass and save money in the long run for my entire vacation.
Disney's prices are pricing me out of considering Disney exclusive vacations. With Universal's Harry Potter attraction, I have to visit the best new thing. There's no way to fit Disney's 4 parks into my trip especially since Disneyland and DCA are much better than the Magic Kingdom and Studios. I will visit Epcot and Animal Kingdom.
The sweet spot for Disney tickets are between $200 and $300. I will reduce my cost to around $160 for 2 parks, thus saving the other $100+ for Universal and other attractions.
Unless Disney has better incentives like a gradual decrease in prices for 2 or 3 day trips with park hopping, then my behavior will be as I described.
Published: June 14, 2011 at 9:03 AMFollowing Larry's comment, I've been telling reporters that I don't think Disney's ticket price increase will affect its attendance.
First, there's a percentage of the population that, due to the economy, simply can't afford theme park vacations any longer. But they're out of the market already. Among the rest of the public, a few dollars' increase won't make or break the vacation, especially when compared to the much more volatile prices of gas, airfares or hotel rooms.
Sure, people will keep looking for discounts. And few bucks more at the front gate might lead some people to spend a few bucks less inside the park.
Ultimately, bad decision making on what ticket to buy, where to stay, when to go and what to do in the park costs uninformed visitors far more than Disney's price increase will. That's why it's important to continue doing research in advance of your vacation by coming online to site like Theme Park Insider.
If you were spending this kind of money on anything else, you'd do research in advance of your purchase. Vacations should be no different. (Plus, trip planning for a vacation can be half the fun anyway!)
Also, in answer to Lucas' question, yep, "no expire" means that the tickets never expire. I've used 15-year-old tickets to get into Disney (and Universal) theme parks. Granted, if you try to use an old paper ticket these days, they'll make you switch to one of the new cards, but you'll still get your days.
Published: June 14, 2011 at 10:54 AMSeeing these prices make me wonder if anyone has ever paid full price for a one day ticket. Do those guests exist?
In high school I remember a teacher explaining you can't have a sale without first selling the item at the original price. Does Disney set their prices at WDW to encourage the multi-day vacation so you are "saving" money per day.
Of course, I believe, if you go to Disney, you need a multi-day vacation anyway to experience everything.
I'm interested in learning where the break point is now with families doing the research to find the best pricing/season to attend versus just saying "screw it, we gotta pay whatever they say". Wish I could stand at the turnstile and do a survey to find out what guests paid to see how many actually use a vacation package, "timeshare" tickets, gate tickets, etc etc.
Published: June 14, 2011 at 11:13 AM"Seeing these prices make me wonder if anyone has ever paid full price for a one day ticket. Do those guests exist?"
Full price is whatever you agree to pay. It might seem like a good idea to breakdown a multi-day ticket and rationalize the per day cost, but you actually paid more for your trip than a day tripper.
"Of course, I believe, if you go to Disney, you need a multi-day vacation anyway to experience everything."
It is a bit presumptious to think that anyone should have to experience everything. It is not necessary or required. Whenever I go on vacation, it is best to visit the highlights and use the other times to relax or take a more leisurely approach. Everyone should tailor their vacation to their own preference instead of Disney's.
Published: June 19, 2011 at 6:52 AMOne-day one-park? Does anyone actually even buy those?