Voted Montu. And you should too. Cause it's awesome.
And, Mike, Voyage is getting all kinds of off season love, plus new Timberliner trains... time for you to make a pit stop at Holiday World for some re-rides.
Meet you there?!?
I feel that there are better coasters even at BGT (Kumba)as well as at many other parks. Texas Giant comes to mind.
Again, check out the recent reports on the work being done to the Voyage this off-season. It is gonna be an even better experience in 2012 than it was when it first opened! I can't wait!
I've ridden the Voyage many times and have fond memories of being on the first train (charity auction) opening day with my wife and six year old son.
The Voyage has a lot of fun moments, but it is also so violent in places that it just doesn't make it enjoyable. I'm sure the S&M crowd love it for that reason.
Montu has an awesome ride experience with great themeing and wonderful elements throughout. Besides that it's just plain sexy.
Voyage doesn't do it for me. I don't get the love for it, for me it ranks near the bottom with Ghost Rider and Mean Streak.
I'll admit that unlike the pleasant experience offered by rides like Montu (and there are many rides like Montu), the Voyage is not for everyone. But for those who are willing to accept the challenge this monster ride has to offer, the greatness of the Voyage is undeniable. I can only hope the voting public will widen their Florida-centric eyes enough to give this masterpiece its due. Be bold. Be strong. Be right. Vote Voyage!
Also, the 'all B&M inverts feel the same', I disagree. I have ridden 3 that I remember off the top of my head, and Montu is by far the best. It just rides better, the pacing on it is wonderful. They don't rush things too much.
One other thing, if the reason to not vote for Montu is 'it's not the best in it's park' allow me to ask a question. If Montu is not the best, which is? I have been on all of BGT's coasters aside from Cheetah Hunt, and none of them comes close to Montu. The next best in my opinion is SheiKra, and that is a one trick pony. Kumba is nice and fun, but honestly is no where close to Montu.
So, while I know Montu is going to lose, it is my opinion that Montu is far better, and far more underrated. Montu is one of my favorite rides anywhere, and my absolute favorite coaster. I would push for more votes, but I know the cause is lost. I am proud it got this far.
As for the Voyage, it is nothing like Mean Streak. The comparison is just wrong. Furthermore the only debate regarding the Voyage's greatness is whether it is the best or second best wooden coaster in the world (El Toro is the other contender). The world has acknowledged the masterful artistry of the Voyage and my only advice to those who doubt: go to Holiday World and experience this beast. Once you ride it you will KNOW that there is no shame in a great coaster like Montu losing to the singular experience offered by The Voyage.
Time for a TPI 2012 Meet in Santa Claus, Robert????
I would love to go to Holiday World, but my budget is a bit limited at the moment (planning a Portal-based wedding takes time and money, but getting a fiance that wants to theme a wedding based on a game is a rarity, so I go with it.) And, while I doubt that The Voyage is as rough as Mean Streak, people saying it is not aging well makes me not exactly look forward to riding it. I generally just don't like woodies, mainly cause of the roughness. So it probably is not as awful as Mean Streak, even a little roughness can ruin a ride for me (for instance, I am not a fan of Maverick even though I know a lot of people are, and that's cause my 1 ride on it was rough as hell.)
All I know is, as I right this, I desperately need to ride a coaster. Or 20.
Incidentally, when I first read your post my mind saw "Postal" instead of "Portal". Maybe the intensity of The Voyage has bounced my brain one too many times! =)
A Postal themed wedding would be odd... Though we almost did a Zelda theme, but that can come off way too cheesy.
Still, goooo Montu (even though it has lost...)
The counts on which I'd rate Voyage better are length of ride and night rides. I swear my night rides on that baby felt like 10 minutes at 100mph!
I would like to get back to Santa Claus, because Toro has only solidified its standing with me in the years since my 50 Voyage rides in '07. I need to see if Voyage is truly as great as I remember it..same with Ravine Flyer II, the coaster that separates Toro and Voyage in my Top 3.
One week til my first Toro ride of 2012! (Can you tell I'm excited?)
Nope, I have not made it to NJ for Kingda Ka or El Toro. Which is odd, cause I used to go to Sea Isle City every summer to visit Vince's Sub Shop when Vince and Annette still ran the place, and when Wildwood Boardwalk (Morey's Piers) was the place to go, not Six Flags. El Toro was not even a glimmer in park planner's eyes...
But I digress. I have heard you speak of the greatness of El Toro many times which is why I allow that the Voyage may not be the best woodie out there - but in my experience nothing else comes close. I can't imagine El Toro is better, but it might be "as great".
Someday I will make it out there... but first I need to revisit Disneyland. The last time I rode the real Pirates of the Caribbean was in 1981. I gotta get back soon. I owe it to my kids at the very least!
Oddly enough, James, I think I was to Sea Isle City once as a kid, and I don't believe I've ever been to the oceanside parks in Keansburg or Ocean City. I spent a lot of family vacations in Wildwood as a kid, as well as Seaside. Still make it to the latter at least once a summer, the former every 3-4 years.
I like the fact that unlike many would, you keep the possibility open that Toro COULD be as good as Voyage. Many people would not even consider that when their feelings for the ride they love are so strong. An open mind is a wonderful think to have and keep.
It IS much shorter.
As to intensity vs. pain, I agree they are not the same thing. However, Voyage WAS painful for me. Will new trains help? Probably. After all, new trains have made Gwazi rideable.