Guess what I voted for?
*EDIT* James and I are not in cahoots. I've never met the man, but I'd like to. He just got his post up before mine. I'm not a fast typer, and I'm at work. And Rob, thanks for the kind words, but I'm far from an expert. I know a lot about coasters, andI know what I like. That's about it. And I like Voyage :)
I hope all the Holiday World people and those outside the Florida bubble find their way here today and make this right.
But my dislike for wooden roller coasters, for any of us with motion sickness I can "suck up a trip" on the hulk but not a wooden roller coaster.
Note: Manta no issues, smoothest coaster I've every been on
As far as woodies go, The Beast and The Texas Giant are both far superior to The Voyage.
As far as these two are concerned it's Hulk by a mile.
As for the other coasters you mentioned, I'll take both the Beast and the NEW Texas Giant over the Hulk....and Voyage beats those two hands down (or "hands up" according to Mr. Gallagher). But don't get me wrong, the Hulk is a nice ride, just not quite in the same class as the others you mentioned.
So, if The Voyage wins, shouldn't we have a TPI meet up in Santa Claus to celebrate the occasion? Who's with me???!!!
And WHEN (not if) the Voyage takes this again - I'm in for a TPIfest at Holiday World. (Soon to be home to the World's longest water coaster too.)
Voyage Statistics (wikipedia) for Wooden Coasters onlySteepest - #4 (66 degrees)Fastest - #3 (67.4 mph)Tallest - #5 (163 feet)Tallest Drop - #4 (154 feet)Longest - #2 (6,442 feet)Golden Ticket Award - Top Wood Coaster of 2011
Son of Beast held higher spot on some of these (esp. longest and fastest), but since it has been torn down :( Voyage got bumped up one.
Incredible Hulk Statistics (wikipedia) for Steel Coasters only:OMG, none.Tallest #10 is Eejanaika (Japan) at 249 feetTallest drop #10 is Bizzaro at 221 feetTallest inversion #10 is a 3 way tie at 124 feetTallest vertical loop #10 is Katun (Italy) 108 feetFastest #10 is Furius Baco (Spain) 84 mphSteepest #8 is a 3 way tie at 95 degreesLongest #10 is Superman el Ultimo Escape (Mexico) 5,577 feet
Sounds like the Hulk isn't up to par. Before you slam me, I've been on Shockwave 6 times in a half hour before it got torn down, I've been on Iron Wolf, Mantis, Chang (though I'm not sure where this is now since Six Flags cancelled the lease at Kentucky Kingdom), Vortex (though I heard that is getting torn down - uber sad), King Cobra, Raptor, Magnum XL-200. I don't care if it's wooden, steel, sit down, stand up, inverted or whatnot. Looking at the picture, Raptor looks similar to the Hulk. Top Gun at Kings Island was a waste of a 2 hour wait for a 1 minute ride in inverted bumper cars where your feet didn't dangle when I rode it - unlike T-2 which gave me and the wife such a bad headache it ended our day at 3pm.
And I'm not sure who above referred to the New Texas Giant as a woodie, but the general consensus seems to be that it is now considered a steel coaster. Then again, there are those who don't consider El Toro a woodie. Me, I don't get into thos debates. I just wanna ride, baby!
There is a flaw in your argument. Simply, comparing these two coasters by how they compare to others of their same type is flawed. I think it cannot be questioned that there are simply more steal coasters in the world than woodies, so just comparing statistics (and how they rank against others) is flawed.
Basically, if your point is there are bigger coasters than Hulk, you are right. But that is not the question here. If this was the 'what's the biggest coaster' tournament, neither of these two rides would be here. But it's not, this tournament is to decide the better ride. Bigger does not always equate to better. If that were true, we would be talking about Kingda Ka going against The Beast.
Hulk is a pure one of a kind ride, the only B&M coaster with a launch in existance. I always hear it getting slammed for being a bit front loaded, but I would argue that the back end of the coaster is actually a lot of fun (it is just overshadowed by the best open ever on a coaster.) Vote for the green guy, vote The Hulk!
Seriously folks, if you have not ridden the Voyage please believe me when I say it is far superior to most any other coaster you have ever ridden, steel or wood, and it leaves the Hulk so far in the dust that this contest should not even be close. No one visits IOA just to ride the Hulk, but I promise you that if you went to Holiday World and just rode The Voyage over and over (if you had the intestinal fortitude) you would leave feeling like you got your money's worth!
If you have any doubt, vote Voyage, it is the right choice.
Voyage on the other hand has three huge float filled hills to start with, THEN ITS INSANE FOR THE LAST TWO THIRDS.
Voyage by a long shot and Hulk is very good yet very different ride. I gotta say, If your not in shape or know what to expect on Voyage, You will be gasping for breath afterward, Its that intense. :)
Son of Beast is still standing. I drive past KI frequently and took pictures of it last week because I saw something interesting.
Vortex isn't going anywhere. It's a reliable, popular, high--capacity ride that is not sinking any more than Magnum is.
Hulk and Raptor are no more similar than Flight Deck and T2. Also, if you waited two hours for Flight Deck (Top Gun) then I highly suggest that it's time for you to revisit Kings Island as it's obviously been awhile and that's a sad state of affairs for anyone. ;)
My finals two cents? Voyage is the obvious vote for me because it is beyond a doubt the most insane, intense, forceful, out-of-control amazing coaster ever built.
So, Mr. Niles, TPI meet at Holiday World on Father's Day to hang the championship banner on The Voyage?
Make it so!
Now I have a question for all those who love it so much: where do you sit? I'm usually a front-seat junkie, and that's where my one and only ride was. Is it any smoother in the middle or back? If I give it another chance someday, where should I try to sit?
I think it deserves some kind of recognition.