Published: May 23, 2012 at 8:57 PMThis would be great, but it would need some big changes from TDS's version to fit the Hollywoodland theme. Great Idea!
Published: May 23, 2012 at 9:12 PMI agree that I find the stateside ToT story lacking. There's no emotional connection with the characters, while the Tokyo version gives us real stakes. As much as I love the Twilight Zone, the Tokyo story is a more immersive narrative.
Published: May 23, 2012 at 10:27 PMAs I mentioned in our Twitter chat on the topic, if there had been a TMZ back in Hightower's day, he'd have been all over it. He is exactly the oversized character that'd fit perfectly in Hollywoodland. Just swap the locale from NY, and we're good to go.
Published: May 24, 2012 at 6:01 AMThere is a ToT movie with Kristen Dunst, that is pretty good, but it doesn't have the Twilight Zone theme. I associate the movie as an extension of the attraction and not an adaptation.
One question, why does DHS's narrative work over DCA's? Why are the plot holes in DHS overlooked while the DCA ones are criticized? Aren't they basically the same attraction with different show buildings and drop sequences?
(Maybe I'm answering my own question here) I do agree, however, that the Twilight Zone theme fits in DHS while Hightower's personality and story would be more suited for DCA.
Published: May 24, 2012 at 7:30 AMHarrison Hightower wouldn't work in the states. He is such a throwback to our real legends like William Randolph Hearst or John D. Rockefeller that the public will have a whiplash to remember what has happened. As much as I enjoyed "The Aviator" starring Leonardo DiCaprio as the legendary Howard Hughes, which like Hearst, would be an excellent candidate as the model for a Tower of Terror remake, most people just don't care or relate to them.
DCA's Twilight Zone didn't work because the new Tower of Terror building is much shorter ride than the original Florida version. It is a big disappointment. They should have went with a new storyline. I prefer they go with a fantasy version, into a totally new dimension. They should have started with the pre-show where you immediate enter into a new realm. It proceeds into the waiting area, then into the elevator a la "Stargate". Only during the drop portion do you get the reality/fantasy dichotomy and we get our own version of the Fifth Dimension room.
The thing about the Twilight Zone is it isn't very scary anymore. I enjoyed it immensely as a kid, but today's movies and shows are clearly over the top.
Published: May 24, 2012 at 7:29 AMThe irony is in the fate of the guests, not the riders in the pre-show. It's all in what Sterling says at the end of the drop sequence. "Next time you check into an abandoned hotel on the dark side of Hollywood, make sure you know what kind of vacancy you're filling..."
The irony is the riders, who see this old derelict hotel, are warned in the lobby of this terrible fate that befell the hotel, and still brazenly (like Hightower, perhaps) get into the service elevator only to, well, we know what happens from there.
The people in the pre-show are just backstory. The riders are the main characters who are given comeuppance. We're the Hightower in this Tower of Terror.
Published: May 24, 2012 at 8:28 AMIt's an interesting idea, but I think on balance I would keep it the way it is.
My main problem, having ridden all four versions of this ride, is that none of them are as scary as the WDW used to be. I had until recently, assumed that this was isolated to the cheaper socal and Paris versions- but last year I was lucky enough to visit TDS & Orlando, and these seemed just as bland.
My mind may be playing tricks on me, but didn't the Florida one used to be much more extreme in the 90s - I think you used to drop a couple floors - surge to the top- the windows would open, you wait, then you would hear a click, nothing would happen & then silently you would drop 13 floors - so fast that your legs hit the lap bar(now a belt) then up again and finish. Now you just seem to bounce around like a yo yo, with a total lack of intensity.
Does anyone else remember it being more exciting?
Published: May 24, 2012 at 8:42 AMThe idea of a new theme is really interesting.
Just comparing, I love Test Track at Epcot and I like that we'll have Radiator Springs Racers. Similar rides, different themes and experiences.
Another one I love is Soarin'. It'd be really interesting if the one in WDW had a different film...
Published: May 24, 2012 at 9:55 AMI didn't get the Broadway and Park Ave joke. All I could find on my map is that Park Ave turns into Broadway...
Published: May 24, 2012 at 9:58 AMAs to the question about DHS's theme vs. DCA's... Florida's version of Tower of Terror, having the same narrative, has the same narrative weakness as California's. But the ride's so great that it's clearly the superior attraction. Since we can't get a different ride for California, I'm just wishing that maybe someday we on the west coast can get a better story than Florida's. And since Disney's already created that story in Tokyo, I see that as a nice fit.
Published: May 25, 2012 at 1:21 PMYeah, I don't understand either why Broadway & Park Avenue is supposed to be a joke. They meet up at Union Square.
Published: May 25, 2012 at 2:37 PMThere is no corner of Broadway and Park Ave. They run parallel until Park Ave ends at 17th Street. That's where Park Ave splits into Fourth Ave and Union Square East. South of Union Square Park, Union Square East turns into... Broadway, which had turned into Union Square West at 17th Street.
Published: May 26, 2012 at 8:24 AMMaybe they stiffed the bell hop, or failed to say thank you to the conductor on the train. But sometimes bad things happen to good people, whether they deserve it or not.
Wrong place, wrong time.