I'm in.
Really enjoy the vintage photo too!
The biggest change I have noticed is that it is no longer possible for me and mine to do BOTH Disney and Universal in a single trip. Universal used to be a less expensive add-on, but not any more. It is one or the other, which makes Universal even less viable since it would be very difficult to go to Orlando and NOT visit Disney!
For now, I am taking the time to experience the best of the regional parks with Silver Dollar City and Dollywood already in the books, Busch Gardens Williamsburg and a couple of other destinations (Holiday World, Kings Dominion, among other potentials) waiting in the wings. A family can visit a lot of great theme parks throughout the year on what it costs to visit Orlando for a week!
I would note that the cost of an extended Disney vacation is still a fairly competitive option since you take most of the ticket price hit in the first four days. Which, I guess, is what Disney really wants in the long run - come to WDW and stay put!
The good news is that companies like Cedar Fair are poised to take over the old Disney market place. With Matt Ouimet at the helm I have great expectations from Cedar Fair attractions.
My wife and I know that Disney is not a cheap vacation, but for us it never has been. When we come this November it will be our third visit at intervals of 4 years, and we will do every theme park in Orlando, including Busch Gardens and Legoland. It's expensive and we know that, but we plan carefully, work out where best to spend our money, and then just set out to enjoy ourselves...
Cheap? No. Great value? Absolutely.....
Do your research before you conclude that is the best way to go!
There are a few good properties on I-Drive, but most fall into the "meh" category AND one might just find that it is less expensive to stay on site at a "value" resort than stay on I-Drive. In addition to that there are perks that you will not get off-site and many of the perks translate into time and money saved.
For example, if you rent a mid-sized car for a week in Orlando you can look at spending between $200 and $250 PLUS gas PLUS parking of $12 per day. A conservative total figure is about $350. Stay on site and you save that amount by using free transportation and get extra hours at the parks as well! I completely understand you can get free transportation at most if not all the I-Drive hotels, but you are on their schedule and take it from a guy who's been there and done that.....you don't want to do that.
Similar perks await you at USF resorts. They may not be as price competitive as the value resort options at WDW, but you get some pretty tasty perks there as well (you just have to love the express pass feature of your room key!)
I live in Orlando and my wife and I lamented the increase in price we will be looking at when we renew our passes, however we feel it is an investment for us. As long as Disney keeps investing in more "Magic" at the parks via upgrades, referbs, and new attractions we will continue to purchase our passes
We have lived in Ohio and had passes to King's Island and I grew up in the Chicago area and had passes to Great America. Nice little parks that have character, but they aren't Disney!
A few months back I was in a local supermarket and bought a graduation present for a friend, a Disneyland pass for $99. It was "One park per day, two days." so not quite a park hopper but a pretty good value. Yesterday I was shopping in the same store and still saw plenty of those cards on the rack. Given the recent price increase, I'm surprise someone hasn't bought them all. I should really buy two or three of those right now, but this assumes these passes will still be honored for some time. They don't list any expiration and if anything warn that prices are subject to change.
Can anyone advise if they know if buying these is a good solution for these recent price raises or will buying these only afford me a surprise at the game like being turned away and/or being required to pay an upgrade? Has Disney said anything officially? Can anyone just take a reasonable stab at a guess?
Related: The dapper fellow with the ice cream bar may not be Robert [unless there's a "junior" in our midst] but I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that the pretty lady is, in fact, a Mrs. Niles. Correct me if I am wrong.
Also related: On this website, you generally don't have to request to be corrected if you are wrong about something.
And I wouldn't bother going to Disney. It's way too expensive for the experience.
Which is why I have enough money to go to Disney.
Why can Disney keep raising their rates? "Wizards First Rule - People are stupid". You tell people they can't live without a Disney vacation. Better still, you tell them that their kids can't live without a Disney vacation, and if you won't give them a Disney vacation, you are a bad parent. You get multi-millionaires to say the line "I'm going to Disneyworld", when there isn't a chance that they would waste their time doing so.
It's all show. Disney knows what it's doing. It knows how to sell the hype, it knows how to market, how to get others to help them market, to encourage the right people to say the right things to sell others on a Disney vacation.
What's magic about Disney? That they can charge an amount far beyond what the experience is worth, and people will pay it, just to brag about how they did a "Disney vacation". They aren't selling the experience, they are selling the right to brag to others, to put on an air of haughtiness, of superiority.
But what do I know? I choose a $1 passable burger at McDonalds over a $30 theme park "high class meal".
Must be magic enough to drag my wife and I over the Atlantic and invest about £4,000 (over $6,000) in a vacation there once every 4 years or so. If we didn't think it was magic, and good value, we wouldn't keep coming back....
It's not something we can afford to do every year, but we are prepared to budget for it every 4 years or so...
That being said, I agree some experiences Disney offers seem to me to be better values than others and Disney makes it real hard for parents not to cough up the cash while vacationing to keep from seeming like a heel to their kids.
I bet many a budget has been blow to shreds once the family is on property with the "We aren't going to do this everyday so we might as well do it right" attitude.
I speak from experience regarding this! ;)
Thanks so much to you and your family for spending your vacation time here in Orlando ... See Ya Real Soon!
Personally, I think prices within the entire travel industry have gone up exponentially in the past 10-15 years, far greater than the rate of inflation. Look at the prices of airfares (not even considering all of the annoyances of today's air traveler), which are getting out of control even with the proliferation of so-called "low cost" airlines like Southwest, Airtran, Jet Blue, and the like. Hotels too have drawn their rates up. When is the last time you could find a reasonable hotel room for under $50 AYNWHERE? $50/night used to be the dividing line between value chains (Super 8, Red Roof Inn, Motel 6, and Comfort Inn) and mid-level/business chains (Courtyard, Fairfield, Holiday Inn, and Hampton Inn). Now that line has doubled to around $100/night.
I think the increase in ticket prices have been pretty steady with the prices of other travel-related expenses. Yes, it sucks that by the time I have grandchildren, it will probably cost $100 to walk through a Disney turnstyle (I'm still working on multi-day tickets that I purchased when rates were still around $50/day), but as long as people continue to pay, they will continue to go up.
As far as pricing out the middle class, I don't think that's the case. Middle class families have been cutting corners and finding savings to afford a Disney vacation for decades. Living in the DC Area all of my life, I know most of my friends and family would make the drive down I-95 to save money on airfare and rental cars to be able to make those trips to Disney. In fact, I still make that drive every year or two because it's easier and cheaper than taking the flight.
To provide some comparison, my wife, 2-year old, and myself will be taking a 10 day vacation to Orlando this fall, and we expect to pay somewhere around $2500, which includes staying 4 nights at Port Orleans. If we wanted to go to another popular tourist destination for the same length of time (LA, Grand Canyon, Texas, Chicago, etc.), we'd probably spend about the same amount of money when you figure in the cost of hotels, meals, and attractions.
It's just getting more and more expensive to travel, which is why so many Americans have been taking "staycations."
If you based your vacation on the 1970s example, it would still apply to today especially if this is regarded as middle class. When I was a kid, we had vacations similar to your example. My mother was a single parent and she took us on vacations to Disneyland and Sea World in San Diego and we stayed at local motels and such. You can still do a cheap vacation.
Today, we regard some conveniences as standard such as the all-you-can-eat buffets, free continent breakfast, 300 threaded sheets, cell phones, SUVs/mini-Vans, and iPads or portable DVD players. We didn't have these things in the 1970s.
While Disney and Universal do cater to the high end, the innovations have benefitted the middle class. The choices are such that we can afford an occasional nice high-end meal and dress casually at the same time (no suits). The tradeoffs are better today. Although the prices have increased, I can afford it as long as I account for it. Unlike the past, it doesn't seem so desperate despite the on-going economic recession.