Readers' Opinions

From James Koehl on March 21, 2013 at 2:00 PM
Jeff, I must say that I had dismissed the rumors of you selling your soul to the devil to get a weekly column in TPI, but now that I've seen the pics of you with Penn and Teller, and saw the evil red glow from your eyes, I'm not so sure. Your weekly column certainly isn't based on your writing ability.

As far as the meeting with the CP General Manager and the payoff, how else do you think I can afford a trip this summer to the Rocky Mountain Coaster Capital, also known as Elitch Gardens? I can't wait to see for myself that magnificent amusement park that you have in Denver, the one you insist on bad-mouthing for the sole purpose of keeping the crowds down and shortening your wait time for front seat on the coasters.
From Jay R. on March 21, 2013 at 2:13 PM
Hey Jeff,

Have you been on the coasters at NY NY & Adventuredome? (I recall one time my class took a field trip to Adventuredome to do math problems after riding the rides....oh the memories)

And cool news about DLR asking AP's about star wars!

Finally in terms of Starbucks......I don't think it's a big deal. It's like Dreyer's ice cream that's served on main street or Dole (of the famous dole whip).

From James Koehl on March 21, 2013 at 2:19 PM
Jeff, I do think you have good taste in shirts. Did your wife chose that shirt for you?
From Daniel Etcheberry on March 21, 2013 at 2:24 PM
In your photo with Penn, I thought both of you were characters from Star Trek.
From Jeff Elliott on March 21, 2013 at 5:09 PM
I have been on the coaster in the Adventure Dome (The Canyon Blaster?) and I was able to ride the roller coaster on New York New York the day before the Penn & Teller show. I chose to skip over the Adventure Dome this year because they are putting a new roller coaster there. I rode the twin of the new coaster going up at Indiana Beach and it is quite a good coaster.

Just for the record, I usually wear roller coaster t-shirts unless I am at work. The lucky shirt just happened to be Cedar Point that day.

From Gabriel Schroll on March 21, 2013 at 6:12 PM
No joke, but Starbucks is way cheaper than the coffee Disney serves. And from the photo, they even give you multiple options for sizes! Big upgrade, AND I don't even like Starbucks' coffee.

Please let ANY rumor for DHS come to fruition. That park is sooooooo small!!! Fingers crossed.

@ LegolandFL.....What?!?!

From Caroline Davis on March 21, 2013 at 10:56 PM
The bandwagon? Thorpe announced this before the other B&Ms that are now going to run backwards. Also B&M probably shopped this around to all their clients at the same time. Merlin's marketing techniques are hilarious, but this site really does seem to HATE this theme park for no major reason apart from it's location in England.
From Mark Kausch on March 22, 2013 at 2:29 AM
You rode Roller Coaster (such an imaginative name) the day before the Penn and Teller show? No wonder your eyes are red. The real question is how are you able to stand?
From Matt Babiak on March 22, 2013 at 3:52 AM
@Jeff Are we really rickrolling? In 2013?
From Kelly Muggleton on March 22, 2013 at 5:31 AM
Fully agree with Jeff that Penn and Teller are excellent at the Rio! (V nice men too)
Jeff if you ever get to see them 'in conversation' then grab the chance. They did this in London a few years ago and they were completely engaging and had amazing stories to tell!
From Russell Meyer on March 22, 2013 at 6:34 AM
I think the Verbolten contest is overkill, but for a park that is adding nothing new this season, it allows them to remarket an attraction to get extra bang for their investment buck. I hadn't realized it, but Busch Gardens noted that the new coaster had already carried nearly 1 million guests in its first season. Considering how much downtime it had and technical malfunctions, that's pretty amazing with an average of about 700 people per hour over the 2012 season.
From Brian Emery on March 22, 2013 at 7:07 AM
Maybe some of us think Starbucks is a good thing…
From Jeff Elliott on March 22, 2013 at 8:06 AM
Please don't get me wrong...I LOVE Thorpe Park. They have what I would consider to be the right attitude for promoting their park to the right demographic in the right way.

The unfortunate part is that it makes them really easy to pick on...and since I write a humor article with news as its foundation, they are a target that is easy to roll with, since there is always something funny to say about them.

Parks that I don't like typically don't get mentioned in this article at all (except for Elitches, which is my local park and my own to abuse).

From Jeff Elliott on March 22, 2013 at 8:25 AM
After each show at the Rio, Penn & Teller go out to the lobby and do meet and greets with everyone in the audience.

You don’t see Celine Dion or David Copperfield doing that…

Also I heard that Penn & Teller are working on a new TV show back along the lines of their Showtime series BS. I keep forgetting the name of the new show for some reason, but I know that they filmed the pilot about two months ago, but it has yet to be signed by a network.

From 71.178.217.74 on March 22, 2013 at 10:11 AM
Anything that replaces the awful Necafe "coffee" is ok by me. And while I often try to patronize small, local cafes, there is something good about knowing what I will get from Starbucks.

RE: Elitchs. If you are looking for the *great* Elitchs, you are about 20 years too late. That was the old park. The current one is awful. Yeah, it has some bigger steel coasters, but the place is absolutely souless; the old Elitch's was beautiful. And I also miss the Old Mister Twister, and the Wildcat.

Not to mention the whole reason for moving the park to the Platte River Valley was having enough space for expansion (not possible in old location). Yet Elitch's didn't buy up enough land at that time (when there was nothing else there), and let it get infilled all around it. So it is in the same bind as the old - and much nicer - park. Then they sold it to Six Flags and it really went downhill. It has been well over 10 years since I have bothered b/c it is such a rotten park.

From Aaron McMahon on March 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM
Disney World's coffee was terrible with very little variety, value or standards. And it's not like they're actually building "Starbucks Stores" just adding them to the menu like Coke products.
From James Koehl on March 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM
Anonymous ^, I understand the Elitch's situation. I just like to jerk Jeff's chain a little bit. I am going there this summer for the first time, and Jeff has often warned me that there is no comparison between Elitch's and my home park, Cedar Point. I just keep asking him to let me make up my own opinion about Elitch's, to no avail.

I hope that everyone in here understands that Jeff and I are really good friends. We became friends while competing against each other in several of the Theme Park
Apprentice competitions. He slaughtered me in TPA3, I beat him in TPA: Tournament of Champions, and we've been friends ever since. Jeff is probably one of the smartest guys I've ever met, with the most twisted sense of humor I have ever come across.

From Jeff Elliott on March 22, 2013 at 2:14 PM
It's all true.

And, yes, I am paying James to say all of that...

From James Koehl on March 22, 2013 at 3:13 PM
Of course he still owes me for the last nice thing I said about him, which was....uh...was...give me a minute.....uh...... . . . . .
From 71.178.217.74 on March 24, 2013 at 6:14 AM
Anon here, and the friendship and joking is very evident. But I do find it good to inform people of how bad Elitchs is. Although more b/c I fondly remember the old Elitchs. And it is sad, since the next closest park is probably Worlds of Fun.
In Denver, you are better off hitting Red Rocks, a baseball game, and touring all the breweries in and around Denver. :)

Oh, and tying it back to one of the stories, Denver has quite a few excellent independent coffee houses.


From James Koehl on March 25, 2013 at 1:10 PM
During my two weeks vacation there, we are planing on going to a Rockies game, sightseeing around the Red Rocks area, hitting some of the breweries, and possibly a coffee shop or two (among about a hundred things that Jeff wants to cram into my visit)! I don't think I'll get bored- exhaused maybe, but not bored. I'm really looking forward to it, but most especially to my visit to Elitch's!