Camp Snoopy needs more Tom Sawyer Island-like play features, as well as better decoration throughout. In a perfect world, Knott's would find a way to recreate the lagoon, and bring back the boat ride. (I've written before that I'd be happy with Cedar Fair just sending Silver Bullet to another park.) Sierra Sidewinder's a fine coaster, but it doesn't fit Campy Snoopy. Lose that other kiddie coaster, too, and invest in a good Vekoma Junior.
Finally, Knott's needs to find a way to better incorporate the Peanuts characters. With the demise of newspapers and their comic sections, plus the lack of new material following Charles Schulz's death, Cedar Fair needs to find a way to make the Peanuts characters relevant to each new generation of kids who visits its parks.
But the news that the Calico Mine Ride is getting a Timber Mountain style upgrade.... well, that news is awesome! Outside of the classic Disneyland attractions (like Pirates), Knott's Calico Mine Ride provided me with many of my earliest and fondest themed entertainment memories. In fact one of the main reasons my family did not go to Knott's during our recent SoCal adventures was because I did not want to see this classic attraction in its current, dilapidated state. If this refurb is as successful as what was accomplished for Timber MT, there is no doubt I will have to move up my time table for a repeat visit to SoCal - and this time Knott's will definitely be part of the adventure!
They need shade and better productions in the open air theater. They need staging and props. Most shows have one or two singers/dancers and the Peanuts characters. The shows is barebones. Nothing much to see.
They need a dark ride for the whole family. Much of Camp Snoopy is carnival type single loop rides. They go by quickly. I can't stand the noisy horn in the truck ride. Please remove the horns.
Expand Camp Snoopy to the Mexican area. Or perhaps incorporate more Snoopy into the Mexican area. Give the carousel the Peanuts treatment. Add snoopy to the family roller coaster.
The Calico Mine Ride refurbishment sounds like it will be really good. If it is anything like the Timber Mountain Log Ride refurbishment it could make the mine ride competitive with Disney's D-ticket dark rides. Too bad there's no news on a Windseeker replacement...I was hoping they might get a nice flat that actually works instead of leaving it a blank slate for 2014.
1) I'm glad that Knott's made this announcement about major refurbishments for the upcoming year in mid-November, instead of waiting until early January, like they did last year for the announcement of the Log Ride refurbishment. People who buy season passes should know what they are getting into, if a major attraction will be closed for half a year.
2) I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop on the Calico Mine Train Ride. Before the Log Ride reopened, Knott's management said that the Mine Train Ride would be next for a major refurbishment, if the Log Ride refub were successful. Garner Holt did a magnificent job on the Timber Mountain Log Ride, honoring the spirit of Bud Hurlbut's original design, so I'm looking forward to what they will do with the Mine Train ride.
3) I've noticed unusually long lines for the Calico Mine Train Ride the last few times I've visited, with the queue coming out into the walkway. Not sure if it's spillover from the Log Ride next door, or if people wanted to experience the original attraction before a possible closure and refurbishment.
4) Have mixed feelings about the Camp Snoopy re-do. When our kids were younger, we enjoyed spending time there, and I still see families with younger children enjoying the various rides. At some level, I don't feel that it needs a big overhaul.
It's true that you don't see many people there without younger children at Camp Snoopy. Would love to see a quality dark ride featuring the Peanuts characters, but that's probably hoping for too much. Robert Niles has suggested that it be more like Legoland, with interactive rides and attractions, but I kind of like it the way it is. Better theming would definitely be welcome, though.
1. The outdoor theater where Peanuts shows play is a nice place to see a show, but it needs more shade, especially during the hotter months. Families with young children don't like sitting in the hot sun. Also, if I remember correctly, the floor of the seating area is flat. If there were a way to improve the sightlines for children, that would be a big improvement.
2. The ride experience is frustrating for many of the rides in Camp Snoopy because there is only a single operator for many of the rides, drastically increasing the wait times. I'm thinking of the Snoopy skateboard ride in particular, but many of the smaller rides as well. Who likes waiting 30-40 minutes for a 60-second ride? The park needs to put greater emphasis on the guest experience, instead of saving on labor costs.
3. It was a sad day for our family when we found the Peanuts Playhouse torn out a few years ago. While the maintenance was somewhat lacking, this was perfectly themed to the area, and a great addition to Camp Snoopy. Although the park promised it would be replaced by a new attraction, the space is still sitting vacant.
4. This year's spring event was fantastic, including the hunt for Easter eggs through the park, including in Camp Snoopy. Events like that really add value to our park experience and make us want to keep coming back.
As for Camp Snoopy I'm a little surprised by some of the comments.
Clearly some of you don't remember the Camp Snoopy of the past or you wouldn't say that it doesn't need a big overhaul. It does!
Fiesta Village should not be touched. It's one of the areas of Knott's that still retains the charm of the past.
James Rao- have you been to Knott's? It sure doesn't seem so since the park has family rides throughout. Concentrated kids areas are no different than any other themed area at any other theme park. You seem to like the Disney parks, so why would you disapprove of this approach at other parks?
I too was sad to see the demise of the Peanuts Playhouse, but it's a sign of the times. Attractions like this are becoming rare in deep pocket corporate parks due to liability and accessibility issues. Some of the blame lies on the overreaching ADA laws. Don't take that the wrong way. It's nice to be accommodating, but the laws have gone too far and are too restrictive. Disney, for example, couldn't built any of the intimate dark rides found in Fantasyland at Disneyland today.
Features I'd like to see return to Camp Snoopy are the suspended bridges that use to cross over the walkways. One used to connect with the former Playhouse. I can't recall if the barrel bridges still exist, but they were just another part of the overall ambiance. Unfortunately, some of the charm will never be recovered because of Sierra Sidewinder, but much can be done.
I agree with someone's comments about more shade for the theater. Why not build a shade structure over it?
Lastly, the megacoaster is dead for Knott's. The park is clearly and rightfully repositioning itself as a family theme park. It makes sense to go after this market with Disney down the road Knott's is not a mecca for super sized roller coasters. The last major coaster addition that benefited the park was GhostRider and while Xcelerator and Silver Bullet are great rides they didn't move the needle in terms of attendance or appeal.
I agree that Huff 'n Puff is about the only thing I hope they don't remove. A solid dark ride would be great for Camp Snoopy!
I think Xcelerator and Silver Bullet are definitely bringing in some of the local crowd who wants some thrills. I wouldn't mind seeing that mega coaster in the future.
Lastly the Log Ride refurbishment exceeded my expectations and I'm excited to see the Mine Ride updates.
Is it Haunt yet? :)