Published: June 22, 2007 at 4:22 AMThis is tragic news. My thoughts & prayers go out to this young girl & her family.
Published: June 22, 2007 at 6:09 AMThis is terrible...I wish the best for her family to stay strong during this difficult time and I hope that the girl makes the best possible recovery from this unfortunate accident. My thoughts and prayers are with them.
Published: June 22, 2007 at 10:07 AMI was on the same ride yesterday at Six Flags New England and it's chilling to think that I could have been that girl. My prayers are with her.
Published: June 22, 2007 at 12:33 PMWhile it is terrible that this happened. I am glad to hear they are going to do complete inspections on similar drop rides.
I think that most parks will just run a few days worth of strenuous test then just re-open. What should happen? they should wait until a determination of the SFKK ride is out. Then look at that flaw to determine if the others may have a similar fate.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Published: June 22, 2007 at 12:34 PMI was there yesterday when it happend but I was at the other end of the park.
Published: June 22, 2007 at 1:11 PMHere's what seems to me to be the possibilities:
Every piece of mechanical equipment is rated to last a certain amount of use before it has to be maintained, repaired or replaced. Your car needs oil every few thousand miles. The tires need to be rotated, then replaced. Amusement park rides are the same. Every certain number of rides, certain parts need to be lubed, rotated and replaced.
When the investigation finds the initial part that failed, someone can check the maintenance records for that part to see if it was within its scheduled life and had been maintained properly. If not, that becomes a huge problem for SFKK, but a bit of a relief for everyone else running this model of ride. If they have followed recommended maintenance procedures, then their rides should be okay and they can reopen.
If the part was in complaince on maintenance, then life gets more complicated. Is there a design flaw in the ride that put unexpected stress on the part? Was there a manufacturing flaw in this specific part? Was the part improperly installed? Or was their some external factor?
You can rotate your tires on schedule, but if you run over a nail, you still might need to replace it early. One can't yet rule out some similar freak occurance here. Could someone have dropped something, such as a cell phone, which ricocheted into the mechanism, causing the cable to snap? If that then turns out to be the case, one has to consider design changes to protect the ride mechanism from such intrusions. Or changing operations procedures to keep riders from bringing loose objects on the ride. Or both.
The smart thing for parks to do here to show the public how they will move heaven and earth to investigate and ensure the safety of their rides. Closing these models during the investigation is an appropriate first step.
Published: June 22, 2007 at 1:24 PMI'm curious as to how this accident was caused. It seems so strange that her feet just got severed like *that*. This story has been so mysterious. I'm wondering if she did anything to cause it herself. Not to put her to blame but it's something to think about. However, I am not trying to convey that I feel it is her fault. Not at all. But it is a possibility. If it was really her fault, the park and the ride itself should not be to blame. Again this IS NOT TO SAY this was the case. We don't know whether it was mechanical failure or horseplay or anything else. In any case, this was an unfortunate accident, and I hope her family is doing okay and that she recovers well.
Published: June 22, 2007 at 1:42 PMS A,
Published: June 22, 2007 at 1:56 PMThat's horrible! I'm glad I'm too chicken to ride those things. But ya know, KKa had a cable snap on the take off too didn't it that sent metal shards or something from the cable into the air? That's terrible, they should take better care of their rides & inspect them more thoroughly. Don't the ride manufatureres have recommendations on when they should be inspected, like bungee cords after so many jumps?
Published: June 22, 2007 at 2:18 PMIt really is impossible for the rider in this situation to have done something that caused the accident, s a. If there was anything there she could have interfered with, that's an issue the park needs to address.
While I hate to see all these drop towers closed, I have to say that I really hope it turns out to be a flawed part rather than an overall maintenance issue. Parks are getting a little extra grief this year, and the last thing the industry needs is for a large chain to get dinged for faulty maintenance. Between this and X-Coaster a few weeks back, I've had my fill of bad park stories (and that's not considering the ones that don't make the national news like Magnum XL-200's love bump, Raging Wolf Bobs' derailment, and Timber Tower's 3-hour ride).
The industry needs some good news. I just hope they've done what they need to do to deserve it.
Published: June 22, 2007 at 2:22 PMHere in town a man was decapitated by a guide wire cable on a telephone pole. The pole was being worked on and the cable snapped causing it to loose all the tension. His head came off just below the shoulders. These things happen when the cables are not maintained, and it seems like the cables on these rides and rides like it at Carowinds, Kings island, and other parks are exposed to the elments where on rides like Dr. Doom and even the tower at Cypress Gardens are enclosed. Granted, these cables have the potential to snap right through any protection. One thing I want to know, where at on the ride was she? Was she in the air? Did the brakes kick on?
Published: June 22, 2007 at 2:59 PMThey just interviewed the park manager and he said that thier matinence crew still does not know why the cable snaped,
Erick, the car began to climb up the tower and about half way up the tower is when the cable snapped and the car began to fall, once it was close to the bottom of the tower the brakes slowed the car down like it was supposed to.
Published: June 22, 2007 at 9:06 PMThankfully "drop towers" have a breaking system that isn't powered (it's a magnetic induction system), so as long as the car doesn't become detached it always works, planned drop or not.
It's really sad to hear of things like this happening... I hope they managed to reattach her feet.
Published: June 22, 2007 at 11:48 PMThis is very unfortunate and I wish the girl a full and speedy recovery. How come these rides don't have the cables more concealed? There must be a way to design the ride with the cables on the inside of the main structure.
Published: June 23, 2007 at 4:32 AMI think on some drop towers they are encased....Dr. Doom at IOA is one example....pretty sure of it.
Published: June 23, 2007 at 9:44 AMIm no engineer in the least, but I wouldnt think it would be a design flaw. With these rides operating for so many years and having given hundreds of millions of people rides you would think a design defect would show up sooner than this.
Is TOT down or operated with the same type of system as this ride??
Published: June 23, 2007 at 12:09 PMTOT is not the same thing! In fact, you are being pulled down faster to pull you out of your seats better. Still, the ride has had some malfuctions, but nothing as serious as this incident.
I was watching the news yesterday and fell asleep. Did they close down all the Six Flags droping rides (like Giant Drop at SFGA. I only heard the promo for it and I wished I could have seen it. Is it true?
Published: June 23, 2007 at 7:00 PMIT WAS NOT A 16-YEAR OLD IT WAS A 13-YEAR OLD UNFORTUNATLEY.
Published: June 23, 2007 at 7:52 PMyea its a 13 year old girl, and I was watching the news and they said that cedar fair has closed down 5 of thier thrill rides becuase of this incident, and six flags has closed down I think 8 of thier thrill rides.
Published: June 23, 2007 at 8:04 PMIntamin says they haven't provided replacement cable for this ride since it opened, so I guess SFKK was using some other vendor. I hope the fault lies there...
Published: June 24, 2007 at 11:36 AMI'm in my third year of mechanical engineering, and we've had several courses in which the sole purpose is material inspection. This includes tensile tests, compression tests, etc. We've also had several courses regarding safety. These courses delve into something called a Safety Factor. Any machinery exposed to the general public must have a Safety Factor of around 4 or higher, ESPECIALLY parts used in, say, theme park attractions.
Typically, when something like this goes wrong with something in close contact with people, it was the result of human error. It might be possible that Six Flags did not follow guidelines. Like Robert was saying, you have to change your tires. Materials go through so many tests before they're deemed safe, but they still wear, especially when it's something as rigorous as a high speed attraction.
Basically, I don't think the girl or the manufacturer are to blame in the slightest. Maybe not even Six Flags. That's why it's a freak accident - it happens very rarely and has no definitive cause. We'll just be waiting on the results of the test.
Hearts out to the girl and her family. What a nightmare.
Published: June 24, 2007 at 3:23 PMYet another injury on roller coasters.
Am I gonna avoid the Superman? Not likely.
I won't say I'll send prayers to the girl. Fat lotta good prayers do a girl who is now gonna be crippled for life. But I will say, I feel absolutely horrible for her, and if there's a donation system available to give them some money to cover the medical bills or something, I'd gladly do that. If anyone knows of something for said donations, I'd appreciate a link or address.
I just hope her relatives don't see this as a cash opportunity and sue. It's not the fault of either Six Flags or the engineers. This crap just happens with such complicated pieces of machinery; no such thing as 100% reliability. A civil lawsuit judge probably wouldn't see it that way.
Published: June 25, 2007 at 12:07 PMI beilieve that the family should be entitled to a large sum of money by suing. This money should be used in helping pay medical bills, and other expences such as therapy for the girl, because it is gonna take a long time for her to recover from such a traumatic injury to her body. i know a little more than enough will be awarded to her and her family, but it can help her to a quicker more significant recovery. Money cant make everything better but it can make it easier for all of them!!