Published: August 26, 2014 at 10:11 AMThis "second hard ticket" sounds like it includes the ability to bypass some crowds (as well as get some decent grub). Isn't it really just the same idea as buying an Express Pass or FastLane wristband? Or is it more comparable to what Knott's does with their Scary Farm event by selling admission plus Fright Lane plus the Skeleton Key. Or Universal's Horror Nights Express and RIP Tours? Park admission is just the tip of the iceberg at parks these days. It is the add-ons that really cripple our pocket books (and extend the lines for those of us unwilling to pony up). Maybe we need an expose on the whole industry? Add-on services are becoming quite a racket.
Published: August 26, 2014 at 10:25 AMWe had a good time, but the crowds did limit what you could see at the main stage. If they raise the stage so it can be visible from father back that would be a big plus. We couldn't get into Club Evil as the line was just too long, the same can be said about the special items for the event. The line was long enough that you would kill an hour waiting to get in. People were queuing up to take pictures with villains at 6pm. The costumes were great to see. The big M was the most common costume. We did see 2 wicked withes of the west roaming around.
Published: August 26, 2014 at 10:41 AMI agree the cost is pretty steep considering you are already paying to get in for the evening. This seems to be the trend with many parks.
However in saying that I still did buy the tickets. We visit from out of State once a year or less. This is not something that we will likely do again, but we are looking forward to the adventure.
I do wish that they would blend in the cost where you buy one or the other type of evening as opposed to the add-ins.
But in the end they are in the business of making money and if you don't want the service you don't have to buy it.
Published: August 26, 2014 at 11:58 AM"I think they're going overboard with the hard-ticket events. I know that it's appreciated by locals and more frequent visitors, but it feels like they're grasping for any dollars they can get without adding new attractions."
Published: August 26, 2014 at 12:10 PMI think this event is a bit different. To me it's akin to purchasing a ticket to the Party for the Party for the Senses (EPCOT Food and Wine Festival), and adding the VIP option that gets you early entry, guaranteed seating, table service, and upgraded drink options.
I don't begrudge Disney trying to make the most out of the opportunity. We will be going to the MNSSHP this fall, but don't feel the need to attend this "party within the party" just for a few snacks, character meeting opportunities, and preferred fireworks viewing. $100 per person does seem a bit excessive, but if people are willing to pay for it, I can't blame them. The standard hard ticket for the event is actually very affordable at $62-67, which compared to the $99 single day admission to Magic Kingdom is quite a bargain. Also, what some people don't know is that MNSSHP ticket holders can enter the Magic Kingdom starting at 4 PM, so with the park open until midnight, it's like having a full 8-hour day in the park with the bonus of a parade, characters, and fireworks that only happen on party nights.
Published: August 26, 2014 at 12:52 PM"Some attractions were open and there were multiple face painting locations."
It sounds more like a party than an after-hours park event. If they wanted to satisfy their customers, they should have kept most rides open. They couldn't accommodate the thousands of attendees with mostly food, merchandising, and shows. With most people on the main drag, no wonder the complaints come fast and furious.
I will say Disney does know how to throw an excellent party. It is a shame that for every special event done right, they have an occasional miss.
It is increasingly a bad omen to charge so exorbitantly for these special events and the horribly overpriced desert buffets. While it might seem reasonably priced like the Halloween events when it offered full access to the park attractions with smaller crowds, the dessert party events and Frozen premium package are outrageous. Oh well. If you pay it, own it.
Published: August 26, 2014 at 1:15 PMFace painting, dance parties and character meet and greets are not worth the cost for me. There is nothing that you don't normally see in a Disney park.
If they did highly themed scare zone and mazes with special effects like Universals Halloween Horror nights themed to the villains, it would be more legit and look less like a money grab.
Published: August 26, 2014 at 2:02 PMAbsolutely Anon...The key here is that people are willing to pay and see value in these events, and Disney will continue to push the envelope until they cannot sell them out. I'm guessing that many guests view these as once-in-a-lifetime type events or are locals looking to make their 100th trip to the park unique, and are willing to pay just about anything to up the ante of their experience. Look at some of the prices they're charging for the Food and Wine Festival Events this year ($549/person for the V&A signature event!!), it's all about supply and demand, and it's becoming increasingly clear that Disney is pricing its events to try to stem demand. The issue is that they need to live up to the price that they set for these events, which is where some of the criticism comes. If you end up with a large vocal group of guests that doesn't feel like they were treated with the exclusiveness suggested by the price, then they will have to make adjustments. Personally, I think many of the desert packages are obscenely priced, but I don't hear too many complaints about them.
Published: August 26, 2014 at 1:57 PMSimply put it's good business people, thats it!
You've built and operate the gold mine, now reap the rewards.
Published: August 26, 2014 at 2:04 PMAs a previous commenter said - if you don't want to spend the money then don't buy it.
If you read news headlines at all you know that while the airline industry has become well known for add-on fees, now the hotel industry is following suit with add-on fees becoming commonplace. This really isn't any different. I don't see why the theme park industry shouldn't get in on it if people are willing to spend the dollars.
Published: August 26, 2014 at 2:08 PMI would never pay for a dessert party. They are just empty calories. I'm not alone in that more people are have a high blood sugar problem. I wouldn't mind paying for a appetizer/dessert party. Some protein helps a lot. And eating something salty helps me enjoy the sweet concoctions. It seems like the dessert parties cost more than eating at a fine table service restaurant. They are pure profit for Disney.
On the other hand, Disney should promote the after-hours food parties in their dining plan. I would not hestitate in signing up for at least one event if I believe I get a good value. Some very popular restaurants run-out of reservations early or only available at 8pm. What if they have additional slots after 9:00pm and billed as an after-dinner evening snack and show? Open seating with an available outdoor patio and a full-appetizer and dessert buffet with complementary signature drinks. I'll make my reservations today.
Published: August 27, 2014 at 5:35 AMJust imagine if you are a family of 6..... yowsers. Kerching! :-)
Published: August 27, 2014 at 8:30 AMI wouldn't pay for a dessert party either. When we were at Disneyland last spring, we found a spot to view Fantasmic! right on the rope behind the sound board about 20-30 minutes before the show started. Our spot was within about 10-15 feet of where dessert party guests were seated. In my view, the only advantage the paying guests had over us was a chair (which honestly would have been nice for our dozing son) and the small tray of desserts. That's not worth $30/person to me unless it was a light meal.
The upcharge I find interesting is the post-show parties that Disney will be holding after Illuminations during the Food and Wine Festival. It seems kinda odd that people would be willing to sit in a restaurant AFTER the park closes for a "last call" style scenario. The events are supposed to have actual food, but to me there's little appeal since by the time Illuminations is over, I just want to get back to the room to sleep, and even if I didn't have a sleepy kid to drag with me, I don't think noshing after a park is closed is terribly interesting.
Published: August 27, 2014 at 11:37 PMMy only complaint is that this "party within the party" includes preferred viewing for the fireworks. Unless you pay for the upcharge, you definitely won't get the best view of the fireworks -- but the fireworks are one of the reasons we bought our ticket in the first place!
Published: September 1, 2014 at 8:41 AMFor the price, I really am starting to question what you really receive... It's bad enough for the Halloween party (which I really love), but with the lines & such, there's no "meet & greet" for more than 1, maybe 2 characters. And as an adult, that really holds no interest for me. The parade & candy is what I really got from it (and $55 buys a lot of candy). I know that for the 100, or 1,000, or 10,000 spots that they have Disney will sell them all, so it will be a success from that standpoint, but as a family, I can't imagine paying that amount for all of us, on top of the NSSHP tickets.