Warning for Big Boned Guys (& Gals)/Mini Trip Report

Six Flags New England: Let's do everyone a favor and check out the rides before boarding, folks.

From Coaster Enthusiast
Posted October 19, 2004 at 11:44 PM
First off, I do not wish to offend anyone and I do hope to offer a solution to this dilemma.

Large people, please take time to ‘try out’ the seats offered at the entrance to many popular Roller Coasters. Most parks have them and they are there for the sole purpose to assure guests fit comfortably and safely while enjoying the thrill. Don’t wait until you are on the train and find you cannot get the seatbelt around you. This causes unnecessary delays, possible embarrassment to you and your partner and anger among those who continue to wait and roll their eyes because you did not take the few seconds to see if you even fit before entering the queue. As for the remedy: could ride creators design one car that would accommodate two larger guests as opposed to four smaller sized? The car could be placed second or third on the train and large guests would be notified as they enter the platform. It’s a possibility.

TRIP REPORT: Six Flags New England!
It’s Fright Fest time in Old New England, however, be prepared to pay an additional charge if you want to see Terrorvision Circus (in 3-D no less) even if you are a Season Pass holder.

While I had originally made plans to visit the park over year ago, I almost did not attend for many reasons, one being the death of the young man earlier in the season. I was raised in Boston and used to visit Riverside Park and thought Six Flags would remove all the nostalgia. I hadn’t been there for the change, but Six Flags has done a great job with the place and I give them kudos for making it one of the cleanest SF’s I have been to.

On to the rides!

My partner and I were greeted warmly by Halloween costumed characters at the park’s entrance where we both gave Tweety Bird (dressed as a Pirate) a big hug. While most of the guests seemed to be headed to the Super Heroes section of the park, my partner and I headed to the ‘old’ section. We skipped Thunderbolt as I have ridden it many times and it’s rather tiny compared to all the new rides available. So our first was Flashback. Pretty fun, but I prefer it’s counterpart Two Face at SFMaryland. Next we climbed aboard The Cyclone. Ahem ... can anyone say ‘Brake Pads?’ Sheesh! The Cyclone used to be one of the most wicked/twisted wooden coasters in America. Now, they tell me, brakes have been added ALL ALONG THE TRACK because the ‘weight of the train has been tearing up the curves.’ There were only two things that got my goat that day: many of the rides have been tamed and large people. The Cyclone was the ride I got hurt on nearly twenty years ago as I was seated next to a VERY large man and the single lap bar did not hold me in securely – I popped up and busted my knee. Now the ride has new lap bars and seatbelts, and all the brake runs prevent even the slightest negative g’s. Don’t get me wrong, the ride was still fun, just not very exciting.

Next, we took the Sky-bubbles back to the main square and headed to the Super Hero section. We rode Twister which is actually Top Spin with a dumb name. Normally, Top Spin is my favorite flat ride other than the Zipper, but here it is so tame and boring. I asked the ride op why she couldn’t use another of the six programs and she informed me the ride was so old it may not withstand the excessive force. Man!
Thankfully, the Brain Eraser was closed – although I’ve been on many others, including the King of Brain Erasing: Serial Thriller in Houston, I was sorta glad I didn’t have to go through it all again. We both greatly enjoyed Batman-The Dark Knight and the new color scheme is fantastic. One the way to Superman-Ride of Steel, I had to hit Poison Ivy if only to add it to my ride list – I’m up to 567! Okay, so the ride is for little kids. My partner thought it was a whole wasted minute. I enjoyed it (to a point). It’s a pretty ride and the extra long train made me feel like a snake slithering through the tangled ivy.

Superman-Ride of Steel! Now, after not having to wait in any lines so far, I was perturbed over the hold up on Superman. They were running two trains and the line was incredibly short. However, when we finally got to the front, the ‘hold up’ was obvious – Large people! Three trains in a row large guests were asked to exit the attraction after trying (one guy for several minutes!!) To buckle their seatbelts. One woman could not even get into the car and got stuck trying! Come on! The ops told me it happens every train and the wait would have only been a few minutes, not the half hour my partner and I waited. Anyway, the ride is truly breathtaking. Not quite as smooth as Apollo’s Chariot in BGW, but amazing never-the-less.

All in all, we had a few good hours at the park. And, if it’s food you want, I suggest the Rib-eye or Roast Beef sandwich at the big place (not listed on the web-site) next to the entrance of Crack-Axle Canyon. The sandwiches are HUGE and tasty, and they’re served with enough fries to keep you from fitting on any of the coasters :-/

From Chuck Campbell
Posted October 20, 2004 at 5:06 AM
The seats for "riders with chest measurements approaching 52 inches" on Alpengeist at BGW are pretty clearly marked--the middle rows under the sign with the big diamonds on it.

From melissa faulkner
Posted October 20, 2004 at 8:23 AM
In Dollywood, Thunderhead is like that. The seats are very small and riders have to be able to buckle a seqat belt across them and their partner plus have a padded lap bar lock down at least one click. I have seen many people have to get off because they couldn't do one or the other or both. At first they had the "try out" seat at the entrance to the que line, but not many people wanted to stop in front of everyone getting in line to test it. So now they have one as your walking up the hill toward the ride. I have noticed more people using that one. They still have one at the entrance, but most prefer the one lower on the hill.

From Kenny Hitt
Posted October 20, 2004 at 3:42 PM
I am a larger individual and I've had no trouble with most coaster seats at theme parks, especially at places like Universal and Disney. T-Bar and Over-the-Shoulder restraints are a non-issue for most big & tall folks.

Where most of us have problems is with double-hinged lapbars. We run into one of two situations: A) the car doesn't have enough legroom and the bar will not cross the tops of our bent knees or B) they yse a dual-lapbar system and the width of the bar is simply too narrow.

One possible solution if for coaster designers to try a top-down style lapbar, one that ratchets down from over the head rather than from the front to back.

From mark walker
Posted October 24, 2004 at 9:40 AM
The last time I went to Busch Gardens, two fat people went to go in the front row for Gwazi. The ride attendent removed them because they were...um 'having problems' getting in the seats since there so narrow. They couldn't ride cause they had a burger too many and that ment another 10mins for me in the que line. Crud!

From Arthur Cashin
Posted October 27, 2004 at 10:43 AM
Melissa is right. While the park thinks they are doing you a favor by putting test seats at the entrance, few riders want to lose their place in line. Have it before the station. That way the line moves faster as the challenged people have to leave.

From Jayson Myers
Posted October 27, 2004 at 12:54 PM
Mark must be one of those sensitive people who have no flaws (and this is coming from a smaller guy).

From mark walker
Posted November 2, 2004 at 10:16 AM
Out of the blue you insult me saying I'm a sensitive person JUST because I decided to tell something that actually happened in my holiday in Florida. U R A Globox Jason.

From Chase Harrison
Posted November 2, 2004 at 1:55 PM
I weigh 206 pounds and my dad weighs about 340
But there was 265 weight limit for the Borg Assimilator at Paramount's Carowinds but they let us bith ride the great ride I it dosen't matter about hey big your bones are its the thys I bet me and my dad could both ride MF at CP next summer what do you guys think

From Coaster Enthusiast
Posted November 20, 2004 at 9:58 PM
I recently found out why Stanley died on Superman @ SFNE ...

The people who operate the "Ride of Steel" extended the restraints to accommodate "larger guests" and the strap broke, causing the incident. This was in an effort to conceal the fact the ride would not accommodate the MANY larger guests than it had anticipated. There was no cover-up. It was just an accident waiting to happen. Had I known this, I would not only have boycotted the park and SF, but I would have also boycotted the designers involved with the introduction of this attraction.
Designers MUST integrate every possible notion into their designs.
I don’t know what more to say.


From Adrian Walker
Posted November 24, 2004 at 12:55 PM
You're asking for an argument again Mark. I seem to remember something like this happining on another news thread, what was it?.....o yhea I remember. (the topic was Racism at six flags Magic mountain)You had an argument with Jeff Afrons about which was better, Orlando parks or California parks.

From mark walker
Posted November 24, 2004 at 2:23 PM

From Adrian Walker
Posted November 26, 2004 at 11:33 AM
Mark quote: I can't even send in one trip report without you criticising me. Shut up! (all in capitals).

Well, it seems you go over the top even if someone says you made one mistake. And how about you brush up on your grammer and notice your the only one who uses block capitals in your sentance structure. And another thing, you quote you can't send in a trip report without (blah blah blah) this is NOT your trip report. More grammer work for you. Muppet.

From Robert Niles
Posted November 26, 2004 at 2:05 PM
Mark and Adrian,

Why don't the two of you settle your little squabbles off line instead of bothering us all online? Because if you two can't grow up and learn how to behave yourselves on this site, I'll ban you both.

From Adrian Walker
Posted November 27, 2004 at 3:37 AM
Mr Niles,
see the article IOA is the king for my apology.

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