What if Rockin' Roller Coaster ever changed its band...
Walt Disney World: What band's music would you chose if this coaster got an overhaul themed to a different band?
From Tim W
Posted October 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM
What would you like to be the new band of rockin roller coaster if aerosmith decided they didn't want to be featured in there any longer. There has been rumors that their contract is ending and that they may not renew it. I'm open to everything pretty much as long as they dont paint the guitar purple and theme it to hannah montana. It would lose soooo much. So what band or singer would you like to come if they ever did change the music? Would you want it to be a more classic (Chili Peppers, Rolling Stones, ACDC, etc) or a contemporary rock band (Nickelback, 3 Doors Down, Daughtry, etc)?
From Alex Clark
Posted October 1, 2008 at 11:17 AM
The Eagles would be sweet. U2 would also be pretty interesting. I sort of like the way it is.
Well, of course Aerosmith was Disney's third choice to begin with. Originally, Disney approached the Rolling Stones to be part of the ride. However, the band asked for an enormous amount of money and Disney said thanks but no thanks. Disney then ran to U2 and they had no interest in being part of a ride. Luckily for Disney, Armaggeddon came out and the perfect match was made. I personally love Aerosmith and hope they will stay. The current rumors are that Aerosmith will resign given the renewed popularity they are having with their Guitar Hero game and a new studio album coming out next year. Disney would rather not have to change both versions of the ride. If they absolutely had to change, now that HRP is closed, I would love Led Zeppelin. The Immigrant Song and Kashmir would sound great on the ride.
From Greg Bark
Posted October 1, 2008 at 12:36 PM
The RHCPs have already been in two Disney roller coasters at some point, so in the event that Aerosmith takes a leave, I think they should be the new soundtrack. And if that doesn't work, they could use the Jonas Brothers! lol
Haha...I was just thinking about starting a thread on the Jonas Brothers being the new band for Rockin Rollercoaster...RnR is really the tween park of WDW, so it only makes sense that the Jonas Brothers become the next band, if Aerosmith is replaced...with the extreme popularity of the Jonas Brothers, it would make the ride that more popular, and we know Disney likes to use their own in as many platforms as possible...plus they have a lot of songs that would be good for the coaster
Shame on Disney if they replace a classic rock band with the mediocre tripe of the Jonas Douchebags. Those guys are pure garbage.
It's bad enough that the posters in the queues have changed from Hendrix and The Who to Miley and High School Musical.
I don't mind new music - I go to clubs every week and enjoy my fair share of Timbaland and the rest, but that prepubescent 'family-friendly' crap like Jonas and New Kids on the Block is just terrible.
Oh, and the day they put any 'man rock' (as my buddy terms it) like Nickelback on RnR is the day I stop riding.
From Tim W
Posted October 1, 2008 at 4:26 PM
haha. well i like some of the ideas like led zepellin. I would not want to see jonas brothers. It should be kept more hard core in my opinion. But in about 15 years or so and the coaster is still open, then i would say its time for a new band. So what other newer bands could replace besides jonas brothers. Actually nickelback is considered post grunge rock, along with most other rock bands of today. Its whats popular with teens. As long as it doesnt change to punk, hannah montana, or those jonas brothers im fine. But i do have a feeling it will get changed to the jonas brothers due to their rising popularity with girls. But it would disattract too many guys cuz their music isn't exactly hard core.
True, but Disney is very family-friendly, like it or not, and they could attract a lot more girls and tweens to RnR just because its the Jonas Brothers...most guys and older people will still ride it, even if they hate the Jonas Brothers, because its still an awesome coaster...there is nothing more popular among right now among tweens than the Jonas Brothers, and considering how key a demographic that is for Disney, it makes a lot of sense, and Disney loves to promote is products across as many different platforms as possible, so its only a matter of time the JoBros come to a Disney Park in some capacity...Aerosmith signed a 10 year contract when the ride opened in 1999, so come 2009, it will be time to either renew the contract or find a new band
From Greg Bark
Posted October 1, 2008 at 5:18 PM
See, I refer to the Jonas Brothers' music as "Bubblegum Rock". Not only does the title describe how hard the rock is, it also explains the intended audience: tween girls. They write two kinds of music:
A] Very poorly written songs with child-like innocence.
B] A perfectly good song that they basically butchered. Take "Kids in America" for example. They turned it into "kids of the future". That doesn't even make sense! What, does it mean that babies are singing the song, talking about how they will be official kids one day?!
I would like to see some Zepplien thrown in the mix. Hendrix could fit the Diseny theme also.
From Tim W
Posted October 1, 2008 at 6:01 PM
well said Greg.
From steve lee
Posted October 1, 2008 at 6:44 PM
Kids of the future?!?
That's idiotic. Aren't all kids "of the future?" I understand some level of lyrics correction for content (Bowling for Soup's Disneyized cover of "I Melt With You" springs to mind), but that's just horrible stuff.
From Rob P
Posted October 2, 2008 at 2:18 AM
Nothing polarises opinions more than music...or sport.
It would be a sad day if Aerosmith did ever pull the plug...er...lead.
I like the idea of Jimi or Zeppelin but for sheer fun-factor why not go for Spinal Tap ?
That way the amp could go up to eleven which, as we all know, is one higher than all the others.
From Greg Bark
Posted October 2, 2008 at 3:47 AM
The terible kotf Jonas Brothers cover was written for Meet the Robinsons. As some of you may know, most of the movie takes place in the future. Now you know the song's purpose, but COME ON. Kids of the Future makes absolutely no lyrical sense.
Big rumors (mostly for Disneyland) was the RnR was going to star Red Hot Chili Peppers or No Doubt. Aerosmith works at DHS the best!
From Tim W
Posted October 2, 2008 at 4:50 PM
ive heard that too. ive heard it was supposed to be at DCA but california screamin took its place.
Last year, at night, Disneyland used to do something called Rockin California Screamin and Rockin Space Mountain, where they changed the soundtrack on those rides to Red Hot Chilie Peppers music
From Tim W
Posted October 2, 2008 at 6:04 PM
i thought it was all day that they had it? and if that ever happens to WDW space mountain im gonna be really mad
It might have been, but Im pretty sure it was just selective nights...I dont know forsure though cause I never tried it...I agree that its stupid to do on Space Mountain because it in no way deals with the space theme...but the WDW Space Mountain does need a soundtrack...when they added music to the DL version, it made it soo much better, and I assume thats what they'll be doing during the 2009 rehab
From rafael g
Posted October 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM
actually DL space mountain (rock N Roll) was a lot of fun. the original plan was to have a simple switch to go from Rock N Roll & normal space mountain. but it wasn't that easy to switch over as they though.
Long live Aerosmith
From Karin S
Posted October 4, 2008 at 12:21 PM
You can't do the Jonas Brothers. They're hot now, but in a few years, those who care will be asking "What ever happened to...?" They're the Disney flavor of the moment.
Aerosmith is perfect, but if they're replaced, Disney's got to stick with hard rock for that ride. Zeppelin, Hendrix, Foreigner - I realize I'm showing my age, but some of the best rock music came out of the late 60's - 70's.
True, but DHS is the unoffical "teen/tween" park of Disney World, and there are probably a lot of teenagers and tweens who have never heard of Zeppelin, or even Aerosmith for that matter (or at least care)...I do think the Jonas Brothers have staying power, and they fit into the demographic of DHS
From Greg Bark
Posted October 4, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Kids these days listen to ACDC at age 9 and 10. I think they'd know of LZ and Aerosmith. Only a truly culture deprived person would have never heard of them.
From Karin S
Posted October 4, 2008 at 2:49 PM
You're so right, Greg. Teenagers love that old rock & roll. My daughter steals our cd's all the time. When she left for college, she was given her own Clapton, Foreigner, Aerosmith and even Elvis.
I doubt many teens/tweens know what the Twilight Zone is either. This doesn't mean that we should dumb everything down for them. With the popularity of games like Rock Band and Guitar Hero, many young kids are being introduced to classic rock in ways they never have before.
From Greg Bark
Posted October 4, 2008 at 5:40 PM
True that, Raul.
From steve lee
Posted October 5, 2008 at 3:35 PM
It's interesting to see the discussion breaking down to what music tweens listen to. You're overlooking two fundamental things here. 1. Tweens don't care about the musical theming of RnRc. They just want to ride the roller coaster and 2. Discounting the launch, it's still a pretty horrible ride.
For the most part that is true, I dont care what the music is really, its still an awesome coaster, however, there are so many tweens that are literally obsssesed with the Jonas Brothers, they will salivate over the idea of a ride somewhat based on the Jonas Brothers, and those tweens who may be a little hestiant to ride a high speed coaster will force themselves to do it just because its the Jonas Brothers
Now, I'll admit, Im a little biased, considering I seem to be the only TPI user who is actually a fan of the Jonas Brothers
From Tim W
Posted October 5, 2008 at 5:29 PM
its going a little crazy saying they won't care. Tons of tween girls will care. But however it turns off everybody in an older audience and tween and teen boys. Besides the jonas brothers is another boy band fad. remember back street boys, nsync, etc etc... Nobody cares about them anymore and they only just got started about 10 years ago. It would be a horrible mistake. I think in best interest they should keep with a classic rock band because some bands are still very popular after 20-30 years and it creates a sense of nostalgia for adults. As for teens, they are getting more and more into the older music because it is classic. I have to say long live aerosmith but in about another 10 years or so i would change to a new band but still keeping a classic.
From steve lee
Posted October 6, 2008 at 4:36 AM
Oh, they'll care if it's something they like, certainly. But if RnRC suddenly cut the music off altogether there's a certain demographic that's not going to care (understand - I'm not in that demographic). I know this is sort of a blasphemous thing to say at "theme park insider" and all, but there's actually a lot of people out there who have absolutely no respect or interest in theming whatsoever. And most of those people, from what I've seen, tend to skew a bit younger...
And that's why Cedar Point is the bestest park ever! It's like heaven!
(if you didn't get that last bit, it's not my fault)
From Tim W
Posted October 6, 2008 at 12:05 PM
themeing is key to every disney park though. I think everyone can easily understand that. They wouldn't just put a normal roller coaster set to some music. It has to be extraordinary, to be truly a disney ride.
From Ben James
Posted October 6, 2008 at 2:18 PM
Corey,
Your not the only Jonas Brothers fan on this site. I am as well. However, I don't see them as money makers long term. They need to still be popular 10-15 years from now for it to make sense for Disney to add them to the coaster. You need a band that is going to appeal to a much larger audience than just the tweens. I know a lot of people who don't like their music and I don't think that they would be a good investment for Disney long term.
Please, please, please no Hannah Montana. I don't care who they get for it, though I pray it stays with Aerosmith, just as long as it is not some tweener singer or band. My apologies to all who love them, I mean no offense,but can't we just stick with the classic rock bands that have proven that they have stood the test of time.
It may end up that the Jonas Brothers are short lasted, but when Iger announced that Disney-MGM Studios would change its name to Disney's Hollywood Studios, he said it was because they wanted DHS to represent that which is big in Hollywood TODAY...the Jonas Brothers are a lot bigger today than Aerosmith, and in order to truly represent the new mission of the Studios, RnR should feature TODAY's hottest band, even if that means changing every few years...it would sprucen it up every few years, and its not like they have to change anything about the coaster itself
From Tim W
Posted October 6, 2008 at 6:23 PM
never thought this would cause such an uproar between people. But i honestly think that changing the ride every 5 years isn't practical for disney at all. DHS is still about classic hollywood as well. Sunset boulevard is very classic with towere of terror and the big time old hollywood looking street. Having jonas brothers is really a move theyed have to think about.....ALOT
Well, about a month ago, there was a commercial on the Disney Channel showing RnR, with the Jonas Brothers' hit song SOS playing in the background...a bit of foreshadowing perhaps?
I doubt that Aerosmith will be going anywhere anytime soon. However, if they did, I would like to see The Beatles as the new band. The music fits well with the whole rock and roll idea and I could imagine soem great themeing to the ride if The Beatles were the band. Plus I don't think I've met anyone who hasn't heard of The Beatles.
Corey, im sorry but the Jonas Bros. replacing AeroSmith is a HORRIBLE idea. Its been said before, but their popularity will slip in the next year or so. They just don't have any staying power. They're not timeless classics like some of the bands that've been mentioned. If they are going to replace them, we need music that EVERYONE can enjoy.
From Tim W
Posted October 7, 2008 at 4:36 PM
yep EVERYONE has to enjoy the band and not completely trash them. there is WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE who like to trash these guys. i mean aerosmith might not have everyone in the world following them, but they probably don't have one of the biggest and most extensive hate bases in the USA like jonas brothers.
There is no telling the staying power of the Jonas Brothers...yes, they could fade away in a few years, like N'Sync or Backstreet Boys, but they also could have the staying power of the Beatles....when the Beatles formed in the late 1950's, John was 17, Paul was 15, and George was 22...hmm, sounds familiar...Joe Jonas is 19, Nick is 16, and Kevin is 21...now, I wasnt alive in the 50's, but I bet when the Beatles first started, a lot of people doubted their staying power too...so you never know
From Lee Mak
Posted October 8, 2008 at 10:48 AM
unfortunately, the estate of Jimi Hendrix would never allow the music to be in the ride. I know it sounds silly, but they are tighter with his copyrights that National security. I would think that Zeppelin would do it, but based on their track record as the drunken and drugged lords of hard rock, I am not seeing disney approach them unless totally necessary. The fact that they already took down the hard rock posters is a bad sign of things to come. I would think that the Chili's would be a shoe-in since they have already licensed music to Disney. Although, if I had my choice, it would the Dead...I know it wouldn't happen, but a man can dream. How sick would it be to have the "hell in a bucket" coaster that segues into "touch of grey". Sure they have better songs than this, but both of these songs are on the album "in the dark". Get it? Get it? In the dark? man, I am cheesey!
From Tim W
Posted October 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM
sounds great. some really cool ideas for a band replacement. Except jonas brothers. lol. and the beatles, they accomplished something. Does anybody think a disney controlled band can ammount to anything in their life. Yes their brothers, yes it might take more to break them up, but there music its all been done before. It doesn't show originality with any type of new sound.
Oh my god please dont compare the Jonas brothers to the Beatles thats like saying that Dumbo is the same sort of ride as Tower of Terror, they are not bad but they are certainly not the beatles!!
I would love to see someone like Greenday or the chili's get the "gig" if it ever changed!!
I have heard the contract with Aerosmith is close to finishing, and I have also heard that the Jonas Brothers might pick it up. I don't know about you, but I personally do not think the Jonas Brothers should get this one. U2 was actually asked by Disney before Aerosmith, and they rejected, so they are out of the question. But I am sure that if Aerosmith is gone, Disney will pick the right band.
From James Rao
Posted January 13, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Why not just change the ride name to the Rock 'N Roller Coaster (sans band name), and modify the pre-show movie to be more generic? That way Disney saves on the licensing fees and won't have to make modifications in the future. In the background of the ride they could play public domain rock n' roll. Or have someone at the Disney company write a couple of new rock 'n' roll songs just for the ride. Either way, the problem is solved and Disney never has to worry about picking another band again!
By the way, I am fine with keeping Aerosmith, but I am not in favor of any of the other band changes recommended thus far. Except maybe the Beatles. Does Michael Jackson still own the rights to their songs or did he have to sell them off to pay his legal fees?
From Gareth H
Posted January 13, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Well heres one for you.
Any song over 50 years old becomes public, meaning anyone can download, share r play the song without paying any royalties.
The owners of the Beatles Licenses are trying to get this law changed, just so they can add more $$$ (Or should that be $$$$$$$$$$) in thier pocket.
As the beatles songs are getting close to 50 years, Disney could just hold out and see what happens.
This is why the Beatles License holders suddenly allowed iTunes to flog its tunes after years of saying no. Just in case they can't get the las changed to suit them they wanted to make as much money as they could before!!!
From Tim W
Posted January 13, 2009 at 1:03 PM
hmmm thats pretty intersting gareth. Glad to see this thread has been revived! As for no band, im not sure if that will work out so well. i like the idea of having an actual band in the ride rather than just generic rock music. IF the jonas brothers ever get put in to this ride, i will probably never ride it again. well maybe with ear plugs lol.
From James Rao
Posted January 13, 2009 at 2:00 PM
That's why the "no band option" works so well, Tim. You never have to worry about p*ssing anyone off!
From Raul Araoz
Posted January 13, 2009 at 2:41 PM
I don't think that public domain music will work since that necessitates the music be old. This also won't appeal to the younger ride goers.
Second, I feel that every attraction in DHS should have a brand name attached. This is a park based on popular entertainment. Disney could save money by removing the "Twilight Zone" license from the Tower of Terror but it just wouldn't be the same.
Sadly, I think the Jonas Brothers are looking more and more likely to be the replacement since they already have a working relationship with Disney and the tweens would love it.
From dylan k
Posted January 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM
I swear if they retheme this awesome ride to the stupid jonas brothers I will stand outside of the ride and protest! I really think they should keep the areosmith theme, its great.
From Tim W
Posted January 13, 2009 at 3:10 PM
im with you dylan. i will protest right out there for hours to not have jonas brothers included. and i gotta agree with raul. i think the thing that is soooo appealing is the very fact of having a band to the ride. It just makes it better. sure they wuldn't be p*ssing neone off, but im not so sure just being generic is up to standards for disney. the park tries to take alot of wat is the best in entertainment at the time and now ie) American idol experience, twilight zone tower of terror, rock n roller coaster starring aerosmith, muppet vision 3D, indiana jones stunt show(they culd have just a generic stunt show like lights motors action). the fact that there is a band adds to the overall appeal of the entire ride. it adds to the big hollywood themeing surrounding it and the limo vehicles. generic just will never fit disney EVER.
From James Rao
Posted January 13, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Like I said, I am okay with Aerosmith, but I gotta admit my kids would love to have the Jonas Brothers introduce the ride. Personally I prefer the RnR stays the same. Having said that, I would ride the coaster regardless of the band.
As for Disney taking what's "best in entertainment at the time", I am not sure I would go that far. They definitely will jump on what is most popular (like American Idol/Jonas Bros), but what is most popular is not always best (like American Idol/Jonas Bros).
The Imagineers' first pick for the ride was The Rolling Stones, but they couldn't afford them.
Maybe, since the ride has made the parks a lot of money, they could splurge and have The Stones as the stars. They have truly passed the test of time as they are STILL touring.
I would stick with Aerosmith. It's great how it is right now.
Although I wouldn't mind The who or beatles.
Jonas Brothers and especially Miley Cyrus would make me pull my hair out.
From Tim W
Posted April 1, 2009 at 1:28 PM
so im gonna revive this a bit. well Paris has announced there change to a new musical act in their rockin roller coaster. Some guy named Johnny halliday. It may be just me but i kind of think that its a little crazy when DLP's movie park has so much going on right now including the toy story playland plans, and DHS well um nothing.
DLP's park is only half the size of DHS (to compary) and is in need for some attracions. However, the quality is up at that park (the Disney Studios Park). Also, DLP does really well making it the top destination in Europe. It also costs more to go in/stay there.
Thats my theory. Also, I would not call American Idol at DHS a small thing
Oh it would HAVE to be Lou Reed.
If only because it would make the whole world go ... WHA?!
From Tim W
Posted April 2, 2009 at 12:02 PM
um so i feel a little foolish because i definately did not get that april fools joke at first till i posted that comment. in fact i think im gonna start a thread to decide which was the best april fools by a theme park related site. Wow i really thought that was factual. disneyandmore sure fooled me!
From Dan Maher
Posted June 5, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Has anyone heard anything about this lately?
From Tony Duda
Posted June 6, 2009 at 9:13 AM
I rode the RNR on May 30 and everything looked the same. No hint on any change from appearances.
^ Yeah, it hasn't happened yet, but what we were talking about is that the contract will be ending soon! But, I hope it stays long enough for me to get over there again to get a ride with Aerosmith blasting instead of someone like the Jonas Bros.!
Allegedly, RnRC cast members are saying it will be re-themed to Hannah Montana.
Rest assured I will not ride this ride ever again if this is true. Please, Disney, come to your senses.
Although the kids may not know Aerosmith, they will appreciate loud rock while on a high-speed coaster. Hannah Montana, however popular with the tweens and teens, will decimate the current fan basis and will discourage future customers from riding the ride as it will be labeled as a child's attraction.
hannah montana and jonas bros. would completely ruin the ride.
keep aerosmith!!!
From Jeff M
Posted June 6, 2009 at 7:02 PM
Yes, I bet there might be a change, but I'd like to see it contain Music from Suicidial Tendencies!!! Can you just imagine a coaster experience geared toward "A Trip At The Brain!" !!! What a way to travel!!! Any other ideas??? Just my fantasy request.....
Queen would be an awsome replacement with the songs, "Don't Stop me now," and ,"We will rock you."
From David L.
Posted July 16, 2010 at 7:12 AM
I would somehow incorperate the band in to the guitar center on Sunset Boulevard and i would probably make the band be from California to follw the theme even more.
From Joe Brown
Posted July 16, 2010 at 7:16 AM
Too hard for Disney, but how about Motorhead?
A coule of years ago, on another forum, I put together a fantasy amusement park using existing roller coasters. I replaced Aerosmith with the Ramones and called it the Rock 'N' Roll Rockaway Rocket To Russia (aka the 5R.) The Hollywood landmarks on the current ride were replaced by iconic New York City images, notably things like CBGB's, Empire State Building, Statue of Liberty, Yankee Stadium, etc.
From Tim W
Posted July 17, 2010 at 7:24 AM
Interesting that this thread was revived after a year! This was one of my favorite discussions on the site.
KISS! You wanted the best, you got the best! Add some fiber-optic fireworks in the background and some fire cannons at the appropriate moments. and change the cityscape to Detroit Rock City. Giant wagging tongues! Gene breathing fire! Flashing colorful stars and lots of flickering lights! KISS is classic rock with plenty of iconic images and is recognizable worldwide across all age groups.
"is recognizable worldwide"
Hey Rod,
With or WITHOUT make-up??!! LOL!
Actually, I do like your visuals. I saw KISS last year for the first time. Wasn't too impressed, but I'm sure the Mike who was a fan in the late 70's woulda been...
The ideal song for any roller coaster would be "vertigo" from U2.
From Tony Duda
Posted July 21, 2010 at 9:05 PM
I've been thinking about what newer band than Aerosmith could take over and only one sad answer comes to mind. I was thinking what band, still active, well known, a lot of hit songs, and willing to be hyper-commercialized is there? I hate to say it, but the only one I can think of is the Black Eyed Peas!
From Tim W
Posted July 22, 2010 at 4:28 AM
Actually, that would be sorta interesting...
I think instead of sticking to just one band. They should just call it "Rock 'n' Roller Coaster" and play classic rock songs from all the great bands.
I like Derrick's idea. This way, your chances of hearing the same song on multiple rides would decrease. I rod RnR three times and had Walk This Way in my ears each time.
Any chance of hearing a different Aerosmith song? Dream On, Mikey.
I like Derrick's idea too. I think they should incorporate loads of different bands. How would they change the studio video? Would it just be a Rock gig rather than an Aerosmith gig you were going to see?
I also agree it would suck to have Pop Princess Hannah Montana as the basis for the ride. Personally I wouldn't queue up for that!
From Scott B
Posted July 23, 2010 at 6:06 AM
In my mind, I think the Beatles would be a PERFECT fit. The theming could be changed to make the coaster feel like a weird pyschedlic trip through Yellow Submarine type imagery. All the while they can blast Helter Skelter or the loud version of Revolution.
I just love the idea of a coster flying buy animatronic Blue Meanies.
From Tim W
Posted July 23, 2010 at 6:39 AM
Agreed Derick's idea does sound good, the Beatles sounds like an alright choice as well.
The Beatles would be great. I can see Lucy, the Walrus, Penny Lane! It would certainly make an interesting ride.
Scott mentioned the Yellow Submarine imagery. The cars could actually be shaped and painted like Yellow Submarines!
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