Best order to ride the rides at Kings Island?

Kings Island: also, i'm going on opening day, april 17th.

From D-Man O'Connell
Posted March 20, 2010 at 9:51 PM
does anyone with experience know the best order to ride the rides at KI? thank you! also, i'm going on opening day, april 17th. thank you so much!

From Eugene Koh
Posted March 21, 2010 at 2:09 AM
I will only answer if you don't go crazy again.

From D-Man O'Connell
Posted March 21, 2010 at 6:05 AM
i was joking, chill out. jk, but do u hav a good order to ride the rides? thank you!

From James Rao
Posted March 22, 2010 at 3:28 AM
I took this from the TPI King's Island page as it looks like a decent strategy:

Begin the day with Diamondback, the big coaster addition from 2009, then work counter-clockwise around the park hitting the main coasters as you go (Beast, Vortex, Flight of Fear, Firehawk, Back Lot Stunt Coaster, and Flight Deck). Once your main coaster tour is complete, and you have ridden the family coasters, midway rides, and water attractions that interest you, visit the Eiffel Tower for some nice views of the whole park.

From Derek Potter
Posted March 22, 2010 at 6:19 AM
I tend to go the opposite way because a lot of people head back towards Diamondback and the Beast first. The new kids area is also over there, so the crowds will likely head that way. You are going to wait in line for Diamondback and Beast no matter what time of day, but while the crowd breaks for those rides in the morning, you can go the opposite way and have very short lines for a while.

My advice is to take a left out of the gate and head toward Coney Mall. There you'll find the Racer, Flight of Fear, Firehawk..etc. Waiting in line for Firehawk can be a pain because it's a low capacity coaster and the line doesn't move very fast. The last thing you want is to get stuck in a long line waiting to ride it. I would actually head for that one first. Flight of Fear is right next to Firehawk, and the Racer and Vortex queues are close as well.

April 17 is technically opening day, but it's a soft opening day. All the rides will likely be open (except Son of Beast), but some small shops, vendors, shows..etc probably either won't open until the afternoon or won't be open at all. Regardless, expect crowds if it's a nice day.

From Eugene Koh
Posted March 22, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Look, just go Diamondback first, at the back.

From Derek Potter
Posted March 22, 2010 at 11:11 AM
yeah, and wait in line while others walk on rides on the other side of the park.

Going to the other side of the park is only really good if you are there when the park opens. If you don't get there until afternoon, throw my strategy out the window.

From D-Man O'Connell
Posted March 22, 2010 at 11:38 AM
thanks everyone! i think i'll be taking derek's suggestion becasue i'm going earlier in the morning, right when it opens

From Adam Nodjomian
Posted March 22, 2010 at 1:29 PM
If Diamondback has a long line, go in the single-rider line if you don't mind splitting up. It was 20x faster than the other line and both times I rode it, i was either right in front of or less than 2 cars away from the rest of my group

From Adam Nodjomian
Posted March 22, 2010 at 1:31 PM
Sorry, double post

From James Rao
Posted March 22, 2010 at 1:57 PM
Derek, I think I will update the "strategy" on TPI's KI web page to match yours, unless you want to do the honors?

From Derek Potter
Posted March 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM
Have at it sir.

Also while on the subject, a group of people who are obviously together going into the single rider line is quickly becoming one of my biggest theme park pet peeves....almost up there with line cutting, line smoking and bouncing basketballs. I've seen the Diamondback single rider line become ridiculously long at times because of it. Ride ops started to crack down on that late last season.

From James Rao
Posted March 22, 2010 at 4:36 PM
Updated per your strategy, Derek. Check it out and let me know what other changes are required. I have not been to KI in some time...

From Don Neal
Posted March 23, 2010 at 5:31 AM
I agree with Derek's approach and is the route I have taken for years. Works perfectly. Thanks for updating it James.

From Adam Nodjomian
Posted March 23, 2010 at 3:17 PM

groups should be allowed to go into the single-rider line as long as they're fine with splitting up from the rest of their group and filling in the empty seats. Which is the true use of the single-rider line.

From Derek Potter
Posted March 23, 2010 at 4:40 PM
It's called a single rider line. Not a "group of people who are together but are breaking up their party because they don't want to wait" line. You can spin it any way you want with filling seats and all that jazz, but the truth is that your party doesn't want to wait in that line, and you don't care what seat you get, so you all go into the line posing as a single rider to speed up the process. I bet if the regular line is short, you go wait in that one right?

I go to parks with my family all the time. Most of our time is spent on family and kid rides. My kids aren't big enough to ride with me, but my wife is a sport and keeps the kids busy while I steal a ride on Diamondback. In that case, the single rider line is for a guy like me right?

I walk up to the Diamondback queue, and what do I see? People (mostly teenagers) walking into the line in groups of 6 and then going into the single rider line...making what should be a fairly short line of true single riders a lot longer than it should be. When I'm not a single rider, I wait like everyone else. Call it an unspoken park courtesy I guess. It's not really against the rules, just inconsiderate of people who the line is really for, and also of those who wait in the regular line with their parties.

Again, it's my (and a whole lot of other peoples) opinion. Do what you gotta do I guess.

From Charles Reichley
Posted March 24, 2010 at 6:41 AM
I disagree with you, Derek. The single rider line doesn't exist so that single riders can get on the ride more quickly than everybody else.

It exists so that all the seats get filled, which means all the people get on the ride quicker.

If the single-rider line is filled up with people splitting their group, it means every single seat is being taken, and that makes everybody move faster, even the single riders who are in the regular line.

The park doesn't require that single riders get in the single line, so it's not like a single rider is forced to wait longer than everybody else.

It is nice when single lines are close enough to the front that single riders can decide for themselves whether the line will slow them down or not, and get in it accordingly.

What I hate is on those water raft rides where they force you into a 3-person or less line, and then they make you wait if there are lots of 4-6 person groups, rather than occasionally putting sets of people from the 3-or-less line together. But that's kind of a different thing.

In the Griffon at BGW, I've seen cases where lots of people got in the single-rider line, and they've let an entire row in from that line. I don't like THAT, but I understand trying to let some people out of that line because that line separates from the regular line at the beginning of the ride line, so there's no way to make a decision about which wait is less.

From Adam Nodjomian
Posted March 24, 2010 at 1:45 PM
Charles, based on your exlplination it seemd like u agree with me, not Derek on this subject. Is this true or did you really mean you agreeed with Derek?

From Derek Potter
Posted March 24, 2010 at 4:11 PM
Let me rephrase my point. Single rider lines are designed for single riders. They aren't designed for single riders to go through quicker per se, but these lines shouldn't get as long as they do sometimes. There just aren't really that many true single riders out there. Single rider lines are there to fill the 1 or 2 empty seats that any given train may have on a circuit, but they aren't designed for a bunch of people to cut in line. People of the current "fast food/give it to me now" culture aren't concerned with filling extra seats, they are concerned with not having to wait.

If the line is short, the group will almost always wait to get the seats together. If the line is long, groups use the single rider line to avoid waiting in line because they don't want to wait like everyone else. The problem arises when several groups start using the single rider line, which is what inevitably happens when people see a few groups going in. When that happens, the single rider line (which wholly depends on how many spots are open after the regular line has boarded and hence doesn't move as fast) gets longer than it should and takes longer to go through. Most rides using the single rider line are busy, and those seats don't always open up on every train.

I don't buy the technicality argument about "we are filling empty seats" and that's what the line is designed for. It's about not waiting in line, pure and simple.

From Adam Nodjomian
Posted March 24, 2010 at 5:38 PM
That is true, I don't wait in the single-rider line because I want to fill extra seats. I wait because it is almost always shorter than the standard line.

Maybe I don't visit parks as much, but almost every time I have visited theme parks, the single rider line is never more than a ten minute wait, even with groups in them. I agree, a lengthy single-rider line sort of defeats the purpose, but I've never encountered this problem. In fact, when I was at Kings Island last Labor Day weekend, the attendant at Diamondback only let a certain amount of people at a time into the single-rider line so this sort of overcrowding wouldn't happen.

Last, I do agree that our culture teaches us to do everythig now as well, the whole "fast food" mentality (as you stated). The increasing number of attractions though doesn't exactly help this though. If KI spent some money on theming their queue, I may be more inclined to wait, but it's just a monotonous set of switchbacks, with your only aid from some measly covers and fans that you only feel every once and a while. For example, I am actually excited to wait in line for Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey since the theming and recreations look absolutely incredible. No "speed through the line" there.

From D-Man O'Connell
Posted March 26, 2010 at 11:58 AM
thanks guys, but we need to stop "fighting" here. everyone have your own opinion. theres no right answer, its from two different perspectives. very interesting though i must say. Thanks for your posts everyone!!

From Mike Gallagher
Posted March 26, 2010 at 6:46 PM
So, "D-Man",

You don't want fighting. But it's OK for you to tell others to "grow up" and call us "creeps" on your other Kings Island thread.

To borrow a phrase from Ralph Kramden (ask your parents)..I've met some hypocrites in my day, but you may be the hippiest critic of them all.


From D-Man O'Connell
Posted March 27, 2010 at 7:56 AM
good one? spazz

From James Rao
Posted March 27, 2010 at 12:37 PM
And so the thread disintegrates and becomes a microcosm of today's fiscally, morally, and socially bankrupt society.

All you need is love, fellas.

From D-Man O'Connell
Posted March 27, 2010 at 6:31 PM
agreed. sarcasm just bothers me

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