TPA4: Chatter
Discussion of all things TPA related....
Please feel free to pick up on the conversation where it left off....
................and yes I am aware that I goofed up the date.......Robert should be able to fix that for me.....
Who is the youngest competitor here? I'm 16, but I was wondering if anyone was younger than me...
I think it'd be cool to be the youngest competitor right now.
From David L.
Posted July 29, 2012 at 8:13 PM
Karly, while it could have been better, I found your Italian restaurant proposal to be your best so far, don't give up! It was better organized than your others, but could have been a bit better in that regard.
I felt like it was way better than your others too!
It was better, but it felt rushed. And Manny was the youngest contestant at 12.
Woah!
OMG he is 12 thats young
I'm right near you, Bryce. I'm 15, 16 in November.
On the flip side, the Challenge 9 thread has an issue: in the little "about the thread" sort of thing (where it shows who posted the thread and a little description), it says Challenge 7, not Challenge 9.
^ The Epcot challenge was originally #7 but got reorganized to #9.
When copying the challenge in, I goofed it up....
.....My bad......
Isn't 12 years old too young to join the site? I wanted to join since I was 10 and a half, and joined about 2-3 days after my 13th birthday.
He probably lied about his age.
You have to be 13 to join the site, but Manny says it's ok because he got his parent's permission LOL
From Chad H
Posted July 30, 2012 at 9:28 AM
Is EPCOT something you just don't "get" until you experience it? It seems from afar at least that the park is pretty unappealing... The rides don't excite me and with the exception of a few of the newer ones seem to just be things that you might ride once and never again... Am I missing something here?
It seems a great shame cos the more I piece together the bits of Walts original Progress City ideas, the more I wish I could jump in the old tardis and make em build it.
You're missing the point that EPCOT really isn't about the rides... Maybe? It's really great.
Chad, I'm just curious how many of our YOUNGER participants will know what a "tardis" is :)
sorry typo I'm 13 going to be 14 early next year
From Chad H
Posted July 30, 2012 at 9:42 AM
So is it more about the theming and ambiance then? I can kinda see that in world showcase, but the future world stuff seems a bit confusing.
I'm 29, but I don't have my parents permission.
Epcot suffered from some of the same problems that California Adventure had....lack of attractions.
The problem with Epcot is that there is a lot to see and little to do.....as I already outlined, as a non-restaurant visitor, the World Showcase does nothing for me, but I had a nice amount of fun in Future World......but there should be more there.....
.....unfortunately Epcot has a weird legacy to live up to where all of the attractions are supposedly learning ones.....not that I learned much on Test Track or Mission Space....
......I think to make it better, Disney needs to dump some of the learning aspect and go for more E-ticket attractions.....but that is just an opinion...
......and WTH is wrong with the World Showcase?? There should be at least a D-ticket attraction (ride, not movie)for each country....
The World Showcase does have The Maelstrom and that Mexican boat thing...
But I love The Maelstrom. It's cheesy fun and has a decent drop!
Dom You Know im on right you might not want to say that....... no problems tho i am indeed 12 and yes i think its perfectly fine to be on here heck have i gotten in trouble before on here for being 12??? besides im turning 13 in... September i have actually been on here since i was 11 i have loved theme parks for a while now..
And Mike i know what a tardis is lol
...........What?
Dom my point is there is nothing wrong with me being on here and insulting me is not the right thing to do
Manny, for your thirteenth birthday in September, could you please ask for some capital letters and some punctuation marks? If none are available, perhaps someone could teach you how to use them correctly on your hand-held device. I'm 55 and am so low-tech that I'm approaching Aztec, and I can use the capital letters and punctuation on my Blackberry. I suspect that a smart guy like you can also learn how to use them.
"im turning 13 in... September"
You had to think about it?
From Jay R.
Posted July 31, 2012 at 1:44 PM
Hey Manny, I'm sure everyone is glad that you're here, I wouldn't take anything too personal.
I don't think Dom was insulting you, many times people just make light hearted comments & because this is simply text entered on a message board, it's easy to take things differently than how they were intended.
I haven't been here long, but for the few months that I have, everyone here seems like cool, genuine people.
I think it's great that there's a variety of ages on the site, just shows how the theme park experience crosses all demographics & everyone here brings a different insight.
This challenge is boring but interesting at the same time, weird...
From David L.
Posted July 31, 2012 at 3:07 PM
Just to make sure, multiple people are allowed to tackle the same pavilion right? I'm also working on the Universe of Energy, but I noticed there are 4 competitors and 4 possible pavilions...
From Chad H
Posted July 31, 2012 at 3:27 PM
My understanding from previous judge comments is that its okay to use the same area/attraction/park/etc but you have to make sure its a different way of doing it.
Because I'm a Disney nerd, I might chime in just for fun ;)
Just to make it "official", yes, you may use any of the four listed available pavilions (Wonders of Life, Universe of Energy, Imagination or The Land). More than one competitor may use the same pavilion, as long as it is a different proposal and different concept.
I loved your idea Chad H! There used to be a similar perpetual motion machine at a place where I live called Sci-tech. Only it was all made of plastic and it triggered things like music and spurts of water. To start it off someone had to grab a ball and add it to the system. My sister and I used to spend hours playing with that thing, I would be so happy to see it at Epcot! Also, I lol'd when I read I could buy Newton's balls at the gift shop...
And for the record I am 23 and about to finish my uni degree, so if anyone spots spelling or grammar errors feel free to go to town on me (excluding Americanism...its World of Colour! COLOUR I SAY!)
From Chad H
Posted August 1, 2012 at 4:18 AM
Thanks Kelly, I'm had you liked it.
From Chad H
Posted August 3, 2012 at 8:55 AM
Tick, Tick, Tick ;-)
NOBODY WANTS TO LOOK BAD COMPARED TO YOUR PROPOSAL CHAD! I GIVE UP.
No, just kidding. I'm going to write it up today and hopefully have it posted by today.
From AJ Hummel
Posted August 3, 2012 at 11:34 AM
This challenge is hard because I've never been to Epcot, plus I just got back from my trip on Tuesday so I couldn't start working on it until Wednesday. I'll have my submission up by the deadline, but it might not be in until Saturday evening.
Yeah, I was out of town for two days also. And this is the most difficult challenge for me as well.
From Chad H
Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM
And to think when I entered this contest I just wanted to win the "Eliminated too soon" cup... Now I have contestants bowing down to my superiorness. :-)
I'm proud of what I did, just not being able to see the space does make it hard. I just hope I managed to capture the spirit of both Epcots - the one that is, and the one that after seeing Walt's final movie several times, the one I would go back in time to make a reality.
Bryce, replace those []s with <>s. This isn't a vbullitin board ;)
Haha, I did. Not too confident about this one. :(
From Chad H
Posted August 4, 2012 at 6:02 PM
Its good Bryce, I like the ride. Beginning to wonder if I needed more detail in my rides...
Thank you!
From AJ Hummel
Posted August 4, 2012 at 8:17 PM
Done. This one was hard as I haven't been to Epcot and have no idea how much can actually fit inside one of those pavilions. It doesn't help that I was on a trip and didn't get a chance to start working on this until Wednesday. I also wanted to avoid gutting it entirely and tried to preserve what was there in some form wherever possible. I think it's decent, but I've also got a feeling my competition might have me beat this round. At least I made it further than I expected (I thought I'd be out at the hotel challenge, or at the very latest the restaurant).
On a completely unrelated note (related to my trip, not the competition), if anyone is ever in the upstate New York/Ontario, Canada region, I strongly recommend visiting Canada's Wonderland. Definitely the best Cedar Fair park I have been to, and Leviathan is an outstanding coaster (Behemoth is really good too). Although it's not talked about much on here, Waldameer in Erie, PA is probably the best small park I've visited, and Ravine Flyer II at that park is a top five woodie. It is absolutely worth a visit as well if you are into amusement parks (it is not a theme park). Just do yourself a favor and skip Marineland Theme Park, a hybrid amusement park/marine life park located right next to Niagara Falls. It was very disappointing.
I have wanted to go to Canada's Wonderland for
a couple years but my parents probably wouldn't travel that far :(
Mr David has posted....
AJ. I thought Canada's Wonderland's coaster collection was pretty mediocre (I visited pre-Leviathan)..but their collection of flats is impressive, and I liked the park itself. As far as Waldameer goes, it's a gem of a park, and Ravine Flyer II is my #II coaster, behind only Toro. I was thinking of going out there in mid-September, but unfortunately, they close after Labor Day. I may make it to Kennywood, though. It's been more than three years since my last visit to those parks. Waldameer was my ONLY visit, and I really wanna get back.
AJ, I loved your proposal, but for many the greenhouse is the highlight of LWTL and I'm not sure you should of removed that part. I think everyone did a great job, but I'm surprised nobody did WOL.
From AJ Hummel
Posted August 5, 2012 at 10:17 AM
^It seems like I always forget something and don't realize it until later, or I fail to specify how I envisioned it correctly. The idea of splitting them up is so that guests who only care about the dark ride can only ride that, and those who just want to see the plants can go straight into the greenhouses. I guess I should have mentioned that the Living Laboratory entrance would be right next to the Living with the Land exit, and signs would point it out to guests.
^^Behemoth, Leviathan, and Vortex are the only three Canada's Wonderland coasters I thought were great, but I thought Back Lot Stunt Coaster, Dragon Fire, SkyRider, and Mighty Canadian Minebuster were also decent rides. The remaining ones weren't that great (especially Wild Beast and Flight Deck...ouch). However, it was everything else about the park: the non-coaster rides, the theming at atmosphere, and the friendliness of the staff that made it better than other Cedar Fair parks I've visited.
From Chad H
Posted August 5, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Just checking... Is it 3 Critiques this week or still just 2? (just want to hold my comments until all are in).
Final results are posted......Tim should be posting his at some point.....I'm pretty sure he is stuck at work......feel free to post since the result have been posted.
We only ask that you want until after the vote....but there is again no vote this week....
From Chad H
Posted August 5, 2012 at 2:53 PM
NP, just didn't want to plant thoughts into judges heads...
Jeff, you're absolutely right about the lack of an E-Ticket attraction being a gaping hole. To my mind the top level needed a thrill ride as a "reward" for going through the rest (although the rest is of course skippable...); the original plan was I wanted a Roller Coaster, but beyond the name "Coldfusion" I couldnt get much further. I was thinking some kind of dualing coaster in shuttle mode where at the "far" point the two trains seem to meet head on before going through the track back to the station, but I just couldn't figure out enough more to make it work, and was a little concerned about placement (it would have to go out over the carpark - not very magical) and that it might overshadow everything else; a motion sim was out because I already had that in "Fantastic Invention".
Centrifuge kinda ended up there as a distant second choice (although in Disney tradition it does include a reference to what came before in the Coldfusion theme).
I had almost completed a proposal which instead uses the imagination pavilion which didn't have this issue (but instead had a few other major problems...) when I get home from work I might post it up if I've still got it - Edit, I don't. Darn. Sorry
From David L.
Posted August 5, 2012 at 1:55 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed this year's TPA and look forward to the next. I think all three remaining contestants are worthy of winning. Good job!
I have a question:
1) Where is Avatar going to be located?
And thanks David, it sure has been fun.
From Tim W
Posted August 5, 2012 at 4:51 PM
Bryce,
1. The 3 attractions need to include rides and experiences, which can be coasters, animal encounters, dark rides, water rides, etc. The restaurant and shop are separate factors.
2. Avatarland (which from what my recent Keys to the Kingdom tour suggested will be called Pandora: The World of Avatar) does not have an official placement yet. It is rumored to be placed in Camp Minnie Mickey, or in the back of Africa. This should not affect the placement of your land this week, as the location of this land is still up for debate.
For any of those more interested on this Avatar information: The project is supposed to be greenlit after the Snow White Mine Train Coaster is completed, and is projected to be completed late 2014, early 2015. Our guide also informed us that the 5th theme park is said to be greenlit after Pandora is completed.
From Chad H
Posted August 5, 2012 at 5:04 PM
Any word on Park 5's Concept?
Are you still going to post your critiques Tim?
Construction started the other day on Pandora around Camp Minnie-Mickey.
^Bryce, Tim said, "My critique will be up either tonight or tomorrow morning. Sorry for the delay due to work and power outages." I think he got hit by the same line of storms that chased us home from Cedar Point Saturday night. We got lucky, but parts of Toledo got hit with 75mph winds.
From Chad H
Posted August 5, 2012 at 6:35 PM
No teaser this week. If you can't figure out what my theme will be... You need to read some of my older entries and some of my earlier posts again.
From Tim W
Posted August 5, 2012 at 7:56 PM
I will post reviews tomorrow morning. It has been a hectic afternoon.
No word on the theme of the theme park, but a Villains geared thrill park and DisneySea were both meantioned as possibilities.
THERE'S A 5TH THEME PARK COMING?!?!
That's exciting. Though I do think they need to attend to the problems in the current parks first...
The villains thrill park sounds awesome but like Bryce said they need to fix their problems in the other parks before they make a 5th one. But of course Disney Imagineers will not stop and smoothen out their parks problems.
The AvatarLand is going into Camp Minnie/Mickey.....The construction in the Africa section is for the new home of the Lion King show, since its current home is going to be changed to Pandora.
Rumors about a fifth park should also include a mention of a Marvel superheros park that directly takes on Islands of Adventure with roller coasters and bigger more intense rides.
OMG I am so excited about Avatar land and the fifth theme park rumors it sounds AWESOME!
I'm not a fan of the Avatar Land or whatever it is.
I just want some loving for DHS... :(
Star Wars land better be here by 2021.
OMG Dom you can totally become a Jedi! ;) : D
^Hahahahaha.
Hey, Dom..what's the significance of 2021? you'll be in your 30's then. You might be too old to be a Jedi! The minimum age to be POTUS is 35, so I wonder if there's a minimum age for Jedi Knights.
How about Darth Vader?
From Chad H
Posted August 6, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Maximum age to become a Jedi if I remember the movie right, Even Anikin was considered too old.
Correction: I'll be in my 20s then. And no there is no minimum.
HOLY ****! THREE POSTS AT ONCE!!!
Sorry about that, Dom...math was never my strong suit.
My Nightmare JEOPARDY! Board:
Mathematics
World Geography
Politics
Nuclear Physics
Reality TV
Ancient History
My Dream JEOPARDY Board:
Amusement Parks
Baseball
Before And After
Rock Music
70's Television
Horror Movies
Oh gosh, submitted mine...
*runs away*
Bryce, very good proposal!
Thank you Dominick!
Creep Creep Creeping on Dom ;)
I'm tempted to post a picture of a creeper but I won't.
From Chad H
Posted August 8, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Looks like the (high) Mark has been set.... I'll see what I can do about mine later tonight.
Dom, send a pic through my profile..I'm curious, because the only Creeper I know was an old movie character played by Rondo Hatton. And he was an ugly son of a gun. There was also an Italian horror flick called Creepers, directed by Dario Argento.
From AJ Hummel
Posted August 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM
This week is going to be very difficult. I still need to decide which of my ideas to go with, and I'm running out of time.
From Tim W
Posted August 8, 2012 at 2:30 PM
Chad and AJ, feel free to bounce preliminary ideas off of me if you would like.
From Chad H
Posted August 8, 2012 at 5:31 PM
My ideas pretty much locked in, for better or worse. Just a few specifics that need to be completed.
The big problem I have with it is that its snookering me for the final... It would work great as either.
(edit: going to be tomorrow now).
I'm worried about this one. I feel like my proposal is strong but there are consequences for posting first...
From Chad H
Posted August 8, 2012 at 5:33 PM
Its very much a question of Tactics I think Bryce. Now that you've gone first if one of us had South America plans we're going to have to do a lot of revision.
Yeah, it was a decision.
I wanted to post fast to claim that idea, but at the same time I didn't.
From David L.
Posted August 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM
Bryce, you did a great job! If it wasn't supposed to be in DAK, I would say it's the best proposal this season so far! Before, I elaborate though, are we allowed to critique publicly before the winner is announced?
Wow, thank you David!
Well, Bryce McGibeny and Chad H you guys were really the best to me this season. Not like the others weren't good because they ranged from good to amazing. I had a feeling that these fellas would get to the finals. I am so happy about this! I really am proud of all of the contestants. So good luck to my boys Bryce and Chad!
OMG I FORGOT AJ! Well I am sorry AJ you are included of course! I was thinking that we were down to the final two. Oopsie brain fart
David, I think it would be best if everone waits until all proposals have been made before anyone starts with public critiques on an individual proposal, other than a "nice job!" kind of comment. Of course, if you want to send it privately to them that is always an option if they are open to it.
As far as "claiming" a continent,we never said that the same one can't be used by more than one competitor, just like in the past challenges. As long as the proposals are obviously unique I don't see any problem with it.
From Chad H
Posted August 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM
Thanks Karly. Hope you enjoy this one as much as I enjoyed doing it.
Now I have to come up with an idea for the final just in case I get through... those who have seen the scenario might now be seeing what I meant in the last comment.... this idea could have gone on much much further.
I like that you included Kanga and Roo as a M&G. Not to mention Tigger too ;)
OMG Chad did I enjoy this, YESSSSSSSSS Sir!!!!!
Maybe I should just throw in the towel now and crawl in a ditch...
It was really good!
From Chad H
Posted August 9, 2012 at 7:31 PM
Thanks! Yours is awesome too Bryce, who knows how it will go.
I think it's been a very successful TPA, as the quality of challenges has improved and we've been getting great proposals. And, I don't mean to brag, but I got the last post ;)
Calm down, Bryce. Yes it was good, but so was yours and we're still waiting for AJ. I haven't heard any fat lady sing yet, so hold onto your towel.
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