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Universal Expansion (The Discussion Continues)

The contrast between development strategies associated with the Walt Disney World parks and the Universal Orlando parks is an ongoing topic at TPI.

From TH Creative
Posted December 14, 2012 at 7:42 PM
It seems unreasonable that a single TPI regular can shut out the commentary of others who frequent the site. So let's keep the conversation going -- rather than allowing one person to silence the people who have kept this site interesting and exceptional


Comments in chronological order. Most recent at the bottom. Scroll down to respond.

From TH Creative
Posted December 14, 2012 at 8:10 PM
NB: (Previous and not to be taken serious 100th comment deleted) Update: Apparently, my desire to see this hijacked thread close was met with dismay, per TPI private message.

I Respond (as the private messenger): Apologies to YOUR "desire" but how exactly was the thread "hijacked"?

From Rob Pastor
Posted December 14, 2012 at 8:45 PM
NB: I agree completely with your move. This new thread is proof positive of your assumption. I too, get real tired of the "I RESPOND" BS.

From James Rao
Posted December 14, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Not half as tired as I get of the "Universal Rulz Everyone Else Droolz" BS....

....and to think, just 25 posts ago there was a Kum By Ya moment shared between us TPI fans. Tsk, tsk... sad to see it end with a premature discussion close (NB, that tactic never works... trust me, I've tried it many times!).

Anyway, goodnight gang. Have a great weekend. Gonna be busy and out of TPI's radar for the next few days with Christmas activities, so try to get along like good theme park fans, please!

Disney and Universal Drool! Silver Dollar City ROOLZ!!!!! ;) Outlaw Run for best new ride of 2013, baby!!!

From Bryce McGibeny
Posted December 15, 2012 at 5:54 AM
Oh my... I think we should face the facts and agree that both Universal Orlando and Walt Disney World are elite resorts and some of the best theme parks in the world. Yay!

Oh, and this thread is just as immature as the final post on the other one. I'm sorry, but was this really necessary?

From robert morris
Posted December 15, 2012 at 9:12 AM
The ultimate challenge for Universal is land...

They sold off the room on the otherside of I Drive years ago that had room for the next two parks and another city walk complex.

Now most of that land is undeveloped so could be repurchased

The other question is what to do with Wet n Wild as the lease is rumored to be up soon

So where to build a world class water park to accent their theme parks

Another option is to incorporate/upgrade the existing hotels in the Kirkman and North I Drive area via partnerships and create as an option to increase the scope of their resort district

While I love what they are doing....there is an obvious challenge eventually with the lack of land

From Mike Gallagher
Posted December 15, 2012 at 9:12 AM
Bryce said: "I'm sorry, but was this really necessary?"

No, but neither was Carrot Top, and he exists anyway.

From Bryce McGibeny
Posted December 15, 2012 at 10:28 AM
HAHAHAHAHA!

From Daniel Etcheberry
Posted December 18, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Anyone knows how crowded will be IOA this friday (12/21/12)?

From Mike Gallagher
Posted December 18, 2012 at 1:17 PM
Not very. End of the world, remember?

From Daniel Etcheberry
Posted December 18, 2012 at 2:33 PM
No better place to be for the end of the world than at IOA :^)

From Bryce McGibeny
Posted December 18, 2012 at 2:46 PM
I'm actually planning a trip to Islands of Adventure with my dad next week. Is it wiser to go before or after Christmas?

(Hopefully the world won't end)

From robert morris
Posted December 18, 2012 at 7:04 PM
Before by a long shot, wait times can increase 5 times or more for some attractions at both parks

From Bryce McGibeny
Posted December 18, 2012 at 7:11 PM
Would Christmas Eve or the Sunday before be a bad idea?

From robert morris
Posted December 18, 2012 at 7:52 PM
not that bad, but last week HP only had a 15 minute waits

From Dan Babbitt
Posted December 19, 2012 at 1:03 AM
Darn apparently I missed some excitment on the boards lately.

*Rolls up sleeves
*Takes off gloves
*Cracks knuckles
*Limbers up

So which part of the ring should I stand in for Disney in this fight?

I kid, so as Im typing this I totally forgot what the thread was about!

From Dan Babbitt
Posted December 19, 2012 at 1:05 AM
I figured it out:

I feel that after the expansion of Fantasyland is complete I believe they will do one of two things or simultaneously:

The first is the expansion of a twelve country at EPCOT which I believe will be Brazil. EPCOT is really lacking in attractions but as Im thinking this through doesnt need that many because of the food and what not. People will still come to the park but it feel dull to me know especially during non-event times.

The second is the expansion and development of either "Lucas Land" or Pixar Place. It would be great for them to build the rumored Monsters Inc coaster and other stuff. Also with the Star Wars movies set to be released starting in 2015 I see no reason, financially of course, why they wouldnt want to capitilize on it.

Fun Fact: Tatooine Traders or Endor Vendors, what ever its name is, one of the most profitable stores on Disney property!

I know that James Cameron pulled Avatar away from Disney or was the other way around? But I know that it is not going to AK any time soon.

Not being in the loop with Universal I really cant comment on them. I can wishful think but it wont have any background knowledge and thoughtout details as I wish to have it. But I can try:

I like the expansion of HP Land. They can do so much more with the material.

Transformers will be great.

They need to change Marvel Superhero Island. Its just wrong that you're closets rival is making money off you! I would see what Warner Bros. is up to with its DC characters and see if you can get the rights to those because it would make the transiton easier or do something else.

This all assumes we survive the next couple of days! ;)

From TH Creative
Posted December 25, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Merry Christmas!

From TH Creative
Posted December 25, 2012 at 5:49 PM
Magic Kingdom closed to capacity on 12/24 and 12/25.

From N B
Posted December 26, 2012 at 12:50 AM
And you wonder why I purposely closed the last thread with 4 comments to go.... What does Disney being at capacity have to do with the expansion at Universal? Seriously?

Were you really interested in continuing the discusssion about Universal or were you not finished posting Disney propaganda?

From Rob Pastor
Posted December 26, 2012 at 8:51 AM
NB & Todd: Nice "tell it like it is" posts.

From Tyler Bell
Posted December 26, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Any new expansion updates at universal, I haven't heard anything with all the Disney v. Universal talk. Lol both resorts are great and they both have their unique features, and both are great companies.

From N B
Posted December 26, 2012 at 3:14 PM
TH somehow thinks capacity crowded parks must be fun for guests. All he sees is the success of Disney and not the people who pay for that success.

I don't take anything he posts seriously because it is all a thinly veiled attempt at trolling for a debate. It is rather pathetic when you think about it.

From Rob Pastor
Posted December 26, 2012 at 3:23 PM
And he tends to take people's quotes out of context so he has something to harp about.

From Mike Gallagher
Posted December 26, 2012 at 3:53 PM
Rob said: "And he tends to take people's quotes out of context so he has something to harp about"

I respond: Well, you should talk. You're turning this into a discussion of musical instruments..talk about context! Oh, wait....never mind. :)

From James Rao
Posted December 26, 2012 at 5:14 PM
I will submit that the subheading for this thread invites discussion about both Universal and Disney. Furthermore, capacity crowds of 80k+ at the Magic Kingdom would seem to indicate that the development strategies of Disney Imagineering appear to be working to some degree, anyway.

And, in the spirit of "telling it like it is", I believe the negative opinions of TH's motives are way off base, and also that personal attacks such as those posted above degrade both this site and the theme park enthusiast community in general. Better to try and get back to some level of amiability, gentlemen, in the spirit of Christmas-Just-Past if nothing else.

And Mike, I appreciate your attempts at levity throughout this discussion, they are much needed so far in this thread.

From Dominick D
Posted December 26, 2012 at 5:16 PM
Well TH is an Imagineer....

From Rob Pastor
Posted December 26, 2012 at 5:24 PM
Good one Mike.

From James Rao
Posted December 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM
As I understand it, TH Creative works as a contractor for both Disney and Universal projects. He absolutely loves both company's parks. To state otherwise is simply incorrect.

From TH Creative
Posted December 26, 2012 at 7:04 PM
I'm not an Imagineer. But I have worked on a handful of Disney projects.

I used to ask people who worked at WDI if they ever introduced themselves as an "Imagineer" to people they did not know.

They'd always pause ... and smile. And then I'd respond: "You are such a dork!"

J. Rao, the haters are gonna hate. Whatever.

But as a guy being accused of posting Disney propaganda, I reference one of my first posts on the original thread ("I love Universal Orlando. The attractions are fantastic. Universal Creative deserves the highest praise.") as well as the post where I largely agree with the conclusion drawn by NB ("Universal Orlando's immediate plans are to add what will likely be a series of extraordinary attractions to its parks, but Disney won't lose any sleep over a slight drop in attendance, if any").

Anyways, happy holidays kids!

From Mike Gallagher
Posted December 26, 2012 at 7:06 PM
Thanks, James and Rob. I'll be here all week. And don't forget to take care of your waitresses...remember, they're taking care of you.

So, a priest, a rabbi, and Frankenstein's monster walk into a bar...

From Andrew Dougherty
Posted December 26, 2012 at 9:28 PM
I'm getting out the popcorn.

From N B
Posted December 27, 2012 at 1:56 AM
I believe some people operate under the assumption that no one is as brilliant as themselves and cannot possibly understand the subtle nuances of stereotypical passive aggresive behavior.

From TH Creative
Posted December 27, 2012 at 2:57 AM
And I totally agree with NB's uniquely brilliant and ironically demonstrative assumption. Well illustrated, sir!

From James Rao
Posted December 27, 2012 at 4:12 AM
As opposed to the not so subtle nuances of stereotypical aggressive/aggressive behavior?

*Sigh*

That was an interesting way to shoot for amiability, N B.

From TH Creative
Posted December 27, 2012 at 7:28 AM
Folks, I have no reason to be anything other than grateful for NB’s participation on the TPI threads. Ultimately he has lavished praise on a theme park resort (Universal Orlando) that has made a substantial contribution to Central Florida’s economy.

And yet, while I am inclined to appreciate his contribution, there are occasions where his perspective can be confusing. About a year ago he wrote: “I always welcome friendly debates on here.” And then on this thread, he backhands me a bit by claiming I am “trolling for a debate.”

But then I have contradicted myself on more than one (or maybe more than one hundred) occasions at TPI. I’ve little room to talk.

Anyway, cheers everyone. Wishing you all good health and great fortune in 2013.

From Mike Gallagher
Posted December 27, 2012 at 7:52 AM
Thanks, TH. I'll take some of both..whatever you can spare.

From James Rao
Posted December 27, 2012 at 8:08 AM
^Agreed. A bit of both would go a long way towards a successful 2013!

From Tim Hillman
Posted December 27, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Man, these were great threads!

I'm confused by just one thing. When did THC quit moonlighting for the Disney PR Dept.? ;)

All you guys are great! Hope everybody has a great new year, and may the theme park wars and arguments stay hot and heavy in 2013!

From N B
Posted December 27, 2012 at 1:20 PM
Whoa..... I didn't mention anyone specifically. I could have been referring to myself for alls I knows....

From TH Creative
Posted December 27, 2012 at 1:16 PM
Mr. Hillman was spot on! These were great threads. So pleased we continued the discussion beyond the standard 100 posts.

From N B
Posted December 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM
I may extend this to a trilogy if I don't get my way....

From Mitchell Brouillard
Posted December 27, 2012 at 2:02 PM
Your welcome for sparking such controversy

From James Rao
Posted December 27, 2012 at 2:52 PM
People say there is only one trilogy (we can argue over it being the LOTR or SW), but if N B completes the trifecta, I think his trilogy will take top honors!!

From James Trexen
Posted December 27, 2012 at 3:42 PM
The real trilogy started with Robert's "New Fantasyland" post.

From TH Creative
Posted December 27, 2012 at 3:45 PM
BREAKING NEWS - Universal Creative has just announced that it has bought the theme park licensing rights to this thread. Specifically the contract gives exclusive theme park attraction development rights to the thread for all locations in the United States East of the Mississippi River.

In a related story, theme park website proprietor Robert Niles is condo shopping on Maui.

Stay tuned ...

From N B
Posted December 27, 2012 at 7:57 PM
That last post made me smile.... In all seriousness, I doubt TH or anyone else takes this discussion too seriously. The debates will always rage on, and we will continue to support our favorite theme parks.

James,

That is 100% accurate.

The truth is, not one post in this thread is actually on topic, including my own.

So..... how about that Gringotts coaster......

From Andrew Dougherty
Posted December 27, 2012 at 11:27 PM
LANGUAGE!!!

From James Rao
Posted December 28, 2012 at 4:14 AM
From what we know about it (thanks for the scoop Mr. Niles), Gringotts will be an amazing dark ride/coaster. My only concern is that after all is said and done it will be just an upgraded version of ROTM (my current favorite USF ride). If that is the case, I fear Gringotts will so upstage ROTM that Mummy will become obsolete and eventually be replaced by another cartoon based 3D attraction (please, no!). I hope the two rides are more different than the advance "news" would indicate, but right now, they look eerily similar.

N B, you are more in the know than I when it comes to the Universal Studios expansion... please allay my concerns!

From Rob Pastor
Posted December 28, 2012 at 7:09 AM
The Orlando United insider blogger, Hate to Fly, whose information is usually right on, is saying that Gringott's is going to be so technologically advanced with different twists that it will not compare to any one ride. He says it will be a vastly superior combination of Chamber of Secrets, Spider Man, Mummy's Revenge and some new stuff. Sounds like it will be so different that no single ride will suffer because of it, they all will suffer in comparison.

From Andrew Dougherty
Posted December 28, 2012 at 10:02 AM
This ride is either going tone overkill or just to much from the sounds of it. I like Universal a lot but all this new tech stuff is starting to make me wonder how long will an attraction like this have?

From TH Creative
Posted December 28, 2012 at 9:21 PM
Hmmmmm ... I'm hearing about Burton at WDW.

From Andrew Dougherty
Posted December 28, 2012 at 9:56 PM
Highly doubt it's for Frankenweenie or any other PG-13 burton films by lit maybe the nightmare before Christmas oveay will be coming next year?

From TH Creative
Posted December 30, 2012 at 7:57 AM
I'm hearing EPCOT. UK pavillion. Wonderland walk-thru and meet and greet.

From Tony Duda
Posted December 30, 2012 at 12:11 PM
Wonderland walk-through sounds nice. Alice always stands across from the fish & chips place, it would be an improvement to have her, as well as other characters, own area. Get Pooh out of that back room and into a themed area, too.

I know this doesn't have anything to do with the topic title but Universal is doing so much now that it's hard to know where to start.

From TH Creative
Posted December 31, 2012 at 11:22 AM
New year's Eve: Magic Kingdom closes to capacity at 10 AM ... EPCOT projected to close to capacity (what?!) by 2 PM.

From James Rao
Posted December 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM
After the Dead Texan Burger (two Texas toast grilled cheese sandwiches with 1/3 lb beef patty, 1 egg, 2 slices of bacon, lettuce, tomato, onion, jalapeno, and peppercorn mayo in between) I ate for lunch today at SwaggerKC, my stomach is at capacity as well! Arrrgh!

From Mike Gallagher
Posted December 31, 2012 at 1:23 PM
Geez, James..even Awful House doesn't serve THAT!

From Andrew Dougherty
Posted December 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM
No Hollywood Studios or Animal Kingdom at capacity than?

From TH Creative
Posted December 31, 2012 at 2:15 PM
Apparently there has been no communication coming out of Disney's Animal Kingdom. The last thing we heard was some sort of strange activity in the gorilla paddock involving a silverback named Caesar. It seems ... wait ... my cell is ringing ... Be right back.

From James Rao
Posted December 31, 2012 at 2:18 PM
@Mike, which is why I never go to Awful House!

@TH, It's a mad house! A mad house!

From Tyler Bell
Posted December 31, 2012 at 10:08 PM
New year is here in Florida,is there any new news?

From Tim Hillman
Posted January 1, 2013 at 8:56 AM
Geez, Mike, you almost hit the trifecta!

A Star Wars roller coaster t-shirt and 10 disc WWE gift set.

The only thing you lacked was a gift card to Waffle House!

Biscuits and mustard...

From Mike Gallagher
Posted January 1, 2013 at 10:59 AM
I already attempted to exchange the DVD set and was unsuccessful.

Biscuits and mustard? I don't even put mustard on HOT DOGS!!

From Tim Hillman
Posted January 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Sorry, Mike. I slipped into an esoteric reference to Sling Blade - one of my favorite movies.

From Andrew Dougherty
Posted January 2, 2013 at 3:10 PM
Wait what happened at Animal Kingdom?

From TH Creative
Posted January 2, 2013 at 5:16 PM
It's "you're" and "threepeat" and you owe Pat Riley a royalty check.

From N B
Posted January 2, 2013 at 7:13 PM
Todd,

I was thinking the same thing. The rehash of the original thread seems to be pointless. Let's talk about all the upcoming rides that Disney is adding to thier parks in 2013 instead.

(tumbleweed rolls through..... crickets chirping)

Instead, here are 13 reasons to visit Disney in 2013 (credit goes to disneyparks.disney.go.com)

1.Splitsville Luxury Lanes opened at Downtown Disney exactly two weeks ago on December 19. No doubt this new location will be a big draw for guests of all ages who love to bowl, dance, play pool and dine. - a bowling alley

2.Another recent debut is the Monsieur Paul restaurant in the France pavilion at Epcot. The restaurant now features a new menu created by Chef Francesco Santin. - food.

3.Senses – A Disney Spa at Disney’s Grand Floridian Resort just debuted to guests. I don’t know about you, but I hope to hit up this newly reimagined location for a facial or massage in the coming year. - people with disposable income

4.As Disney Parks Blog Author Tom Smith mentioned earlier, we’ll have a lot of fun surprises to look forward to in 2013 with Limited Time Magic. - limited and fun should not be in the same sentence

5.The Atlanta Braves will return to the ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex for spring training, which means a chance to attend fun preseason games beginning February 22 against the Detroit Tigers. - OK

6.Characters from “Doc McStuffins” and “Sofia the First” will be added into the “Disney Junior – Live on Stage!” show at Disney’s Hollywood Studios on February 15. - awesome

7.The Epcot International Flower & Garden Festival, its fun topiaries, and the Flower Power Concert Series will return for some spring fun March 6. As we previously shared, this year’s festival will also whisk guests back to the land of Oz. - cool, I guess

8.We’ve marked some milestone anniversaries at Magic Kingdom Park and Epcot in the last two years. This spring, Disney’s Animal Kingdom will celebrate its 15th year. - visit in 2013 because the Earth has orbited the sun 15 times

9.My fellow blog author Darrell Fry just announced that the Drew Brees Passing Academy and Tournament will be held at the ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex, June 27-30. Sounds like an amazing opportunity for football fans! - sounds great for young girls

10.A newly updated California Grill will debut at Disney’s Contemporary Resort this summer (date TBA). In addition to decor, Chef Brian Piasecki is also tweaking the menu, which will continue to focus on fresh, seasonal creations. - more food

11.The 31st Night of Joy returns to Magic Kingdom Park September 6-7, this year featuring Steven Curtis Chapman and Michael W. Smith as the main acts. - live performers.... OK

12.Last fall, we shared the news that an interactive queue is coming to Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at Magic Kingdom Park. Should be interesting to see exactly what materializes at this attraction in 2013. - let's hold up the lines so people can play while they wait and all the people waiting to move forward can give them dirty looks.

13.Princess Fairytale Hall, another new addition to Magic Kingdom Park, will open in New Fantasyland in 2013 (exact date TBA). This will be the new home for Disney princesses to meet their loyal subjects in the Magic Kingdom Park. To open in the Castle Courtyard in the center of Fantasyland, the regal space will provide the perfect setting for meeting Cinderella, and Aurora and the other Disney princesses. - meet & greet... are those free?

Which event or new offering are you looking forward to most? Let us know in the “comments” section below. - not a lot to get excited about, so, none of the above.

From Rob Pastor
Posted January 2, 2013 at 9:03 PM
NB: Nice article bro...By the way, there's rumor rumblings of major top management changes for WDW on the very very near horizon. If things were running smoothly, they wouldn't be making changes.

From James Rao
Posted January 3, 2013 at 4:45 AM
N B, that's actually a pretty good, well-rounded list of attractions. Also, rumors continue to swirl that the Seven Dwarves Mine Train is way ahead of schedule and will be ready by November / December.

Antartica is coming to SeaWorld in 2013 (major new ride attraction).

Transformers (clone of the Singapore/Hollywood attraction) is coming to USF in 2013, as well as a midway retheme of the Simpsons area (carnival attractions and food).

Orlando is definitely getting some newness in 2013, however I will assert that the hybrid/wooden coaster Outlaw Run at Silver Dollar City in Branson, MO, with its multiple inversions and unrivaled 81 degree first drop, is going to be the best new attraction of 2013. If not Outlaw Run, then perhaps Full Throttle at Magic Mountain in California? Time to look outside of Orlando, folks... there are some pretty cool, BIG BOY rides being added across the nation. When it is time to vote for best NEW attraction of 2013 (Transformers - a clone - shouldn't be on the list) will the Orlando centric voters hang their hats on Antarctica... or will something outside of Disney/Universal take the cake? Interesting....

From Mike Gallagher
Posted January 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM
Mmmm...caaake.

From Rob Pastor
Posted January 3, 2013 at 7:34 AM
Antarctica looks likes it's going to be excellent. I like coasters, but unless they're themed, I have trouble comparing them with an E ticket themed attraction......James, you have a good point about questioning Transformers as best "NEW" attraction if its exactly the same as Univ. Hollywood, unless USO has major twists on the other versions.

From Tom Cunningham
Posted January 3, 2013 at 8:05 AM
Hey James Transformers a Clone(hope you ment that as a pun) .

Your right though it is a clone of one of the best rides in the world !!! so Im looking forward to hopefully catching a pre opening test when I get to Orlando in May.

Im not quite as much looking forward to the Little Mermaid Clone of a clone at Disney though ;)Not of course that Disney would ever Clone a ride!!!. TOT,RNR,Cars,BTM,Splash Mountain,Space Mountain,Lights Motors Action,Its a small world,Pirates,Star Tours,everything even the Tea Cups are cloned at every Disney park, Lord even Dumbo has been cloned and split into two in DisneyWorld itself now thats a bad trend to start !!!

Still Antartica should be cool(bad pun intended)

From James Rao
Posted January 3, 2013 at 11:17 AM
^There's nothing wrong with clones... they just should not be considered "new".

More importantly, MiceAge.com is reporting Universal is nearing completion of a deal that would give them the rights to produce attractions based on the Lord of the Rings!!! Middle Earth, here we come!!!!!

Interestingly enough, apparently JK Rowling was instrumental in Universal landing the deal.

This acquisition excites me far more than Harry Potter!!! LOTR FTW!!!

From James Rao
Posted January 3, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Tobd, I didn't mention GateKeeper because Cedar Point is late to the party when it comes to flying coasters. I rode Wild Eagle last year... it was good but not great. GateKeeper won't be great either, and it is definitely not a "destination" ride, IMHO. However, it is a nice addition to a park badly in need of more coasters - heck, they already lost their coaster crown to Six Flags... how sad for the self-proclaimed "Coaster Capital of the World" to be upstaged by a west coast park!

Anyway, speaking of the kiddies, it is nice to see you like some of the adult thrill rides too, not just the tweener stuff found at Universal....

From Tim Hillman
Posted January 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM
I love this thread!

NB finds his inner comedian (one of the best tongue-in-cheek slams of Disney's additions to the parks I've ever seen).

Mike doesn't like mustard but he likes cake (how about donuts?).

James Rao/Rio/Reo "Speedwagon" continues to moonlight for the Silver Dollar City PR department while managing to poo-poo Cedar Point and Universal in the process (haven't seen a Six Flags rox! Cedar Point sux! flame war in a while).

Todd Donahue defines for us what poop is and where it comes from. (Somehow, I think I could gotten by without that tidbit of knowledge.)

I think TH Creative is sitting somewhere in Orlando with a satisfied look on his face while he plots his next "I Respond" message since he is the one to continue this madhouse menagerie from a previous thread.

Best of all, I find out that LOTR may be coming to the Universal parks one day. :))!!!

From James Rao
Posted January 3, 2013 at 1:53 PM
"Moonlight for SDC?" Dude, I am ALL IN! 24/7/365!!! SDC Rulz... all other parks Drool!!

And, 1-4-3 to Kevin Cronin and Gary Richrath whose band folks keep attributing to my name! Who would have thought three little letters would cause folks such consternation? R-A-O, people! Jeez!

(And that was "consternation", Tobd, not..uh...you know...uh...something else).

From Andrew Dougherty
Posted January 3, 2013 at 3:19 PM
I'm getting the popcorn anyone else want some?

From James Rao
Posted January 3, 2013 at 3:58 PM
Tadd Doctorwho, did you really to combine two Cedar Fair parks in order to compete with one Six Flags site? Honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself. You have just lost whatever credibility you may have had, my middle-finger waving, Millennium Farce coaster boy wannabe. ;p

However, I gotta admit, I did love your comment on the Muppets. Hate them talking socks!

PS I prefer Cedar Fair to Six Flags, too, but you can't deny that Magic Mountain is the coaster capital of the world. (I hate writing that...)

From TH Creative
Posted January 3, 2013 at 4:05 PM
"Ridin' the thread out ..."

From James Rao
Posted January 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM
"Waitin' for Donawho's fallout...."

From Robert Niles
Posted January 3, 2013 at 5:04 PM
Cameo appearance. Just so y'all know I'm here.

From Mike Gallagher
Posted January 3, 2013 at 6:09 PM
Todd said: ...World class coasters like.....Wicked Twister...."

I must have missed the memo...

And Hi, Robert!!

From Andrew Dougherty
Posted January 3, 2013 at 6:38 PM
Few more posts left in this thread.

From James Rao
Posted January 3, 2013 at 6:39 PM
I am almost embarrassed to know that Robert Niles, the man himself, has witnessed the content of this thread.

Mr. Niles, on behalf of Todb Doctorwho, I apologize.

From David L.
Posted January 3, 2013 at 10:19 PM
James! How dare you compare a mere ape to a Gallifreyan?

TH, are you preparing part 3?

Jumping on the Sixflags Vs. Cedar Fair part, Six flags has created far better themed rides (though I've yet to make it to Knotts), just as thrilling coasters, and a crazy bald man.

Andrew, I'll take you up on your offer. Send it to 5634 Winding River Drive, Atlanta, GA.

In the Oxford English Dicition's next edition, they need to inlcude the following: "Universal Expansion-n.-aimless discussion involving off topic references that somehow relate to theme parks; often humorous."

From TH Creative
Posted January 4, 2013 at 2:40 AM
"The man himself?"

From N B
Posted January 4, 2013 at 3:17 AM
3.....

From N B
Posted January 4, 2013 at 3:17 AM
2.....

From N B
Posted January 4, 2013 at 3:18 AM
1.....

From N B
Posted January 4, 2013 at 3:18 AM
I have Deja Vu.............

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