Is Disney World's Lightning Lane Worth It? Here's What to Ask

October 22, 2021, 5:28 PM · Should you spend up to $15 a ride to skip the lines at Walt Disney World? Disney's new Individual Lightning Lane allows you to do just that on eight popular rides at the resort.

But is Lightning Lane worth it? Here is what you will want to know to make an informed decision for you and your family when you visit the Walt Disney World Resort.

The first bit of information you need is, how much time will an Individual Lightning Lane pass save you? Individual Lightning Lane access is available on eight attractions at Disney World. Here they are, ranked by their typical wait times from most to least:

Remy's Ratatouille Adventure uses a virtual queue instead of a traditional standby line, which makes it a special case that we will get into in a moment. But for the other rides, typical wait times range between 15 to 150 minutes on an average attendance day. If you are visiting on a busy holiday week, expect to wait even longer for these rides.

The Lightning Lane is Disney's new term for its old Fastpass queues, and as anyone who used Fastpass could tell you, just because you has access to the Fastpass queue did not mean that you did not have to wait for the ride. Even with the new Lightning Lane access, expect at least a short wait as other people with Lightning Lane access also wait their turn to board.

That said, Fastpass was a free service and Lightning Lane costs money, so fewer people are using it than used Fastpass. Based on reports from the new system's first users, I would estimated a wait of somewhere between five and 15 minutes to get through a Lightning Lane queue.

Some people have reported even longer waits using Lightning Lane for Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance, but that's a unique attraction where opinions differ sharply between where the queue ends and the ride begins. To me, the Rise queue ends when you enter the briefing room with Rey. I will try to avoid spoilers, but even though you do a lot more after that before you get onto the final ride vehicle, entering that briefing room is where I stop counting wait time.

The cost for an Individual Lightning Lane access varies from $7-15 depending upon attraction and date, so you will want to compare the price you would pay for Lightning Lane versus the amount of time you would save. I recommend checking the Tip Board on the My Disney Experience app in the weeks leading up to your trip to get a better idea of the specific wait times for these and other Disney attractions throughout the day. See our post, How to Use Disney Genie, for guidance on doing that.

But don't think about just time saved. Consider what you would do with that extra time in the park if you had it. Let's say that buying a Rise of the Resistance pass costs you $15 per person and saves you two hours in the middle of the day. What would you do with that time if you did not have to spend it in the Rise queue?

Would that allow you to experience additional attractions that you otherwise would not be able to get into at the park? Would it allow you to see a nighttime show you otherwise would have skipped to take advantage of shorter wait times at the end of the day? Or would you just end up using the time milling around or killing time going on something that didn't really interest you or your family anyway?

Those are the questions to ask, because those extra experiences are what you really are buying when you spend money on Individual Lightning Lane. If getting to do that extra stuff is worth the $7-15 per person, then go for it. If not, obviously, then don't.

Now let's get to Remy's. That new ride in Epcot's expanded France pavilion uses a virtual queue, so try to get into that before thinking about buying Individual Lightning Lane access. The virtual queue opens at 7am each day and often fills within moments, so be logged into the My Disney Experience app before 7 so that you can refresh and try for the virtual queue as soon as it opens.

If you do not get into the virtual queue, buying Individual Lightning Lane will be the only other way that you and your family can get on Remy's Ratatouille Adventure. If experiencing that 3D trackless dark ride ride is important to you, then plan to go ahead and buy the access. But do not delay. Since everyone else who got shut out of the Remy virtual queue will be buying Lightning Lane, it may sell out quickly.

Disney provides its on-site hotel guests early access to Individual Lightning Lane at 7am each morning, but does open additional inventory for day guests at park opening. But Lightning Lane access may sell out soon after that, so if you decide you want it, plan to buy it through the My Disney Experience app as soon as it become available. Read our post, How to Use Disney's Individual Lightning Lane for more information.

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Replies (31)

October 23, 2021 at 8:39 AM

Genie in a Bottle

The Genie program is broken and here’s why. The fast pass system at Disney was free just a year ago and now they want you to pay 15 for Genie Plus per day per person for lightning lane access (fast lane) for some of the rides. The most popular rides though you have to pay 7 to 15 bucks per person per ride for the lightning line access. That could be 60 bucks for a family of four for one ride plus tax that was free a year ago for the same ride?!? Also you don’t get to choose a time so it’s not freedom with money, it’s still your set to be at this place at a certain time within an hour. Staying onsite gets you the first crack at buying one ride for 15 dollars per ride per person. What a benefit! I love spending 500 bucks only to spend more money to get the chance of getting lighting passes to a ride that my family can only ride once or I’m forking over more 15 bucks per person per ride.

Wait there’s more….. read the fine print of the app! There’s no refunds! Yes folks so if you forked over more than 60 bucks for your family to ride the Rise of Resistance at a specific hour and it’s down for that hour than you’re out of luck. Money well spent I say. You better all be wishing upon a star that the rides open for that specific time. Also the wait times that the Genie says for a ride may be highly inaccurate on any given day and it even says so. So misinformation leads to you shelling out more money so you can have time kind of? Also the Genie has problems of blank screens, not showing the times, and plain not working from many customer comments.

Don’t blame the CEO’s of this cash cow or should I say cash mouse, blame the families that keep blindly sending their money into a failed system. Wake up and say no to Genie! Maybe Disney will then see an error in its concept and change it for the better. Now I’m wishing upon a star.

October 23, 2021 at 10:03 AM

A-Butter: "There’s no refunds! Yes folks so if you forked over more than 60 bucks for your family to ride the Rise of Resistance at a specific hour and it’s down for that hour than you’re out of luck."

Me: Are you 100% certain about this? WDW Guest Relations has a reputation for being accommodating during tech issues on attractions. Are you positive?

October 23, 2021 at 10:14 AM

A blogger posted and it’s on the app, the no refunds statement. I’m sure this issue will be resolved some way. I’m more upset at the amount of money everyone will be spending and the buggy app. Here’s the blog that I like that said that and shows that on the Genie App.

https://youtu.be/xHLD7eqPmTY

Hope that goes through

October 23, 2021 at 10:20 AM

I strongly suggest that Themeparkinsiders abandon comparing the free Fastpass to the for-charge Lightning Lane. I remember when gas was $.25 per gallon, a Hershey bar was $.05 each and a McDonalds burger was $.11. You can bet when I buy these today I don't compare past to present.

Fastpass is gone and there's no point crying about it or pining for it. The only useful question is whether it provides bang for buck. I expect for many it does. If not they should keep their wallets in their pockets (or purse).

End of story.

October 23, 2021 at 10:57 AM

I can’t remember when gas was .25 cents and I’m in my 40’s so comparing something from now to 40 plus years from now you would be correct. I’m talking last year we had fast pass it with all of its flaws it was free for all rides. Now jumping ahead only a year, not 50, 40, or 10 years but one year to now you have to pay 15 dollars per person per day for most of those rides to get what you had in fast pass. The most popular rides you have to pay 7 to 15 per person per ride on top of that to ride in the lightning lane.

I’m not a mathematician but the inflation has to be out of this world. This new system doesn’t have any benefits than the old system either. You still can only have a certain hour to ride like you did before. You can overlap with popular rides somewhat if you can even get the times which was the problem with the old system.

This is exactly the old system being cast as this new and improved system with the benefit of you spending more money to the tune of 100’s of dollars for a family of 4 for one day in a years time.

October 23, 2021 at 11:09 AM

To TH Creative the blogger that I put his link to the YouTube site has mostly been very positive about Disney World but this time. I think it’s pretty telling when the supporters of a company question its motives going forward.

October 23, 2021 at 11:38 AM

@Butter: Again, I am looking for a specific incident where a guest pays for LL on an attraction, the attraction goes 101 and WDW Guest Relations says, "Sucks to be you." That would absolutely be inconsistent with the way the company deals with its guests.

October 23, 2021 at 12:17 PM

A-Butter: " I’m more upset at the amount of money everyone will be spending and the buggy app."

Me: Their money. Their choice.

October 23, 2021 at 12:22 PM

True I’m just going by blogger and being written in the Genie App. Like I said earlier they, meaning guest services, would find some way to resolve that issue of a ride breaking down and you not being able to ride a ride in that one hour that each member of your party paid for, for one ride to be compensated. Or they could just say tough luck and no refunds like the app reads. I hope for the first option but with cutbacks like shows, cast, no trams who knows?

October 23, 2021 at 4:24 PM

A-Butter: "Or they could just say tough luck and no refunds like the app reads."

Me: Which would be completely out of step with Disney's business model.

October 23, 2021 at 5:28 PM

I heard they are giving Disney gift cards for when a ride fails. It's not a complete refund but it is certainly something tangible. Genie+ will be a success. Disney will make a mountain full of money and people will have a "fastpass" option. People will pay for this. Lots of folks. Including myself. I'm just grateful that for 20 years we had free fastpass and it was awesome, I sure made good use of it while it lasted. Disney decided to join everyone else and start charging for this service now. I'm not happy about this whole upcharge thing. I can't imagine anyone would except Disney. But it is what it is and something else to budget for on a Disney trip. Ultimately people will vote with their dollars and I think many, like myself, will make this a popular feature. Heck Disney already raised the prices on some of the individual Lightning Lane options in this first week. That tells you how this program went in its first week.

October 23, 2021 at 5:40 PM

Spoke with a CM from MK ... He reports that today was a nightmare. A boatload of confusion, Angry guests berating frontline CMs.

Management needs to step up fast.

October 24, 2021 at 3:47 AM

Excellent, well-balanced article, Robert. You are becoming my new "Influencer".

October 24, 2021 at 9:09 AM

I am definitely not paying extra just to skip the lines, I will already be spending a decent amount to go and stay at Disney World as is. I understand that the pandemic definitely hurt everyone and that they need to bolster their profit margins, but it’s getting to be a bit much.

October 24, 2021 at 1:37 PM

Yesterday (October 23) RotR went down for 24 minutes. As that ride’s LL pay per ride access was already sold well into the afternoon, I’m certain there were some complications with dining reservations and Genie+ regular LL reservations overlapping somewhere. However, I have not heard of any issues where Disney didn’t try to make something right.

Genie may be considered a success internally because it has definitely been steering guests to lesser attractions with short or no lines, but I don’t think guests will share that sentiment.

The latest Genie story is that it was putting Droid Depot on guest’s plans even if they did not show an interest in Star Wars. Yes, a $100 up sell (and people have been upset about paying $15 for RotR!). This was reported by Touring Plans who was testing Genie all last week. Granted, Touring Plans is a paid service and would definitely like to see their product be shown to be better than Genie and may be biased, but I don’t think they could have even fathomed some of the weird behaviors Genie has been exhibiting.

October 25, 2021 at 12:36 AM

Sadly, I’ll admit I’ll be one of those who will be using this feature. However, I go to Disneyland every 3 to 4 years. I’ll be going to Disneyland for two days during my son Xmas break. It will be 3 years since we last took him. If Disneyland has this Lightening Lane going on when I go, hell yeah I’m paying to get on the big attractions to jump the line. It will be different if I was a season pass holder and I went 2 or 3 times a year for a 3 to 4 day stay. I’’m aware, the chances of getting on everything is slim on a two day park hopper visit, but if I have the opinion to even pay $20 bucks per person to get on the big attraction one time, I’m paying.

October 25, 2021 at 12:10 PM

The biggest phenomenon that is happening is that ILLs for RotR and Ratatouille are selling out BEFORE the parks even open. One of the few remaining on-site resort guest perks is that they can start booking ILLs at 7 AM in addition to their 30 minute early park access. It seems that numerous guests are taking advantage of that perk, and buying up all the ILLs for the day before off-site guests can even walk through the gate. It seemed like a silly on-site resort perk, but given the reduction in on-site perks, guests are jumping on it even though it means they're spending even more money (in addition to the higher costs of staying on-site).

Again, I think this is a general temporary attitude among travelers to be more willing to spend money while on vacation brought on by the pandemic. The unpredictability of travel conditions is forcing guests to go "all-in" on trips with additional disposable income from not taking a vacation in 2020. How long that attitude lasts is anyone's guess, but it is playing havoc with the entire travel industry. I don't blame Disney trying to take advantage of this, but they need to be really careful, because at some point attitudes will change, and that extra disposable income will eventually dry up.

I don't think I would ever pay any more than $5 per attraction to bypass a line (even 2+ hours). There are very few attractions that are worth that kind of money to me, especially when you can still wait in a standby line. Perhaps I have a different POV because I go to theme parks all the time, so bypassing a 2-hour line for a ride I've probably already ridden is simply not worth any amount of money, but I'm honestly shocked that so many people are willing to fork over $60 extra day for their family of 4 to avoid a 90-minute line for RotR (especially since most of these people are already on-site and can just get up in time for on-site guest rope drop and ride the attraction with little to no wait 30 minutes before off-site guests can get into DHS).

October 25, 2021 at 11:58 AM

OR...wait into late nigth when wait times go down to 20 or Even 15 minutes ( as per the disney app ).

October 25, 2021 at 12:06 PM

It seems from reports that people who knows the parks very well the free genie is a Mess, worth only if You don't know anything at all about the parks, and quite frankly they are NOT getting the Best of the park( it does well to do a little research ). The genie plus is useful if you know your way around and in busy days, but for larger families or groups it can be costly. The individual ligthing lanes is a toss up. You play your strategies well and can go in quickly or later and perhaps You may not need it. For the newbies? It going to be a must. And well worth it in crazy holidays crowds

October 25, 2021 at 12:25 PM

Before if you stayed at the hotel you could rush in early and ride the popular rides before the lines got long. Now if you stay at the hotel you can get up early and pay more to ride those same rides. GREAT SERVICE!

@Russell "Individual lightning lane" = ILL. Hahah, perfect, because I most assuredly will feel ill everytime I have to pay more to ride a ride I already paid to ride when I bought my ticket.

October 25, 2021 at 3:22 PM

I think the ILL factor is spot on! A couple of options…. Stay at Universal Deluxe Hotels (there is 3 of them prices range from 300 to 500 a night) get express passes for free with stay, for each person in your room. The passes are good for anytime and repeated rides for as long as your stay. FREEDOM! The only problem is that the express pass does not count for the Hagrid’s or Volicicoaster but by staying at one of those hotels you get early access. Of coarse it’s Universal and not Disney.

Another option is to buddy up to a disabled person. Theme parks usually use a system where you have to wait the wait time and then go through the exit and get right on. What makes that great instead of waiting in line you can go do other stuff, eat, and relax. A disabled person can usually take 3 to 4 people with them. I know because I am disabled. You might get some odd looks from customers but the ride ops are always accommodating at every theme park that I’ve been to. Speak to customer service at the front gate for info if you want to go that route.

A couple of options if you don’t want to pay to get the fast pass, express pass, or lightning pass.

October 25, 2021 at 5:12 PM

I often wrote in my posts that I would gladly pay $50 for a guaranteed spot on ROTR, rather than try that lottery system they had in place. $15 is a no-brainer. And I disagree with Russell; getting first crack at the LL selection is a good perk; isn't it similar to picking fast passes 60 days out?

I think it will be possible to strategize and make near-optimal use of this new system, to make it worthwhile as part of our overall touring plan.

October 26, 2021 at 10:59 AM

And Still a fan is a prime example as to why Disney can continue to raise prices into the stratosphere. RotR is arguably one of the best theme park attractions in the world, but to pay an additional $50 (or even the current $15 on top of the ever increasing WDW admission and resort prices to make sure you can grab that ILL reservation before off-site guests can get in the park) to guarantee a mostly wait-free experience on it is precisely the sentiment that is driving Disney to monetize queue avoidance and further ratchet up the cost to experience their theme parks.

Where does this stop? As someone posted elsewhere, when does Disney start to charge people to ride the parking tram? When do they start charging you for each individual ride, not just for Lightning Lane, with a sliding scale based on the ride's popularity (i.e. old ticket books)?

Why are guests paying hundreds of dollars a day for their families to enter a Disney park only to be nickeled and dimed to make their experience marginally better? It used to be every guest was treated the same the moment the walked through the gates (aside from VIPs/plaid vest groups, who are led around the parks rather discretely FWIW), but now guests are asked to pony up as much as an additional $45/person (2 ILLs at $15 each plus Genie+ at $15, making a peak season visit to WDW nearly $200/person on a single day admission ticket) to not even match what guests could do less than 2 years ago.

That's what really irks me is that not only is Disney pushing the envelope in terms of pricing and profiting from aspects of the park experience that used to be included with admission, but these replacement systems are INFERIOR to what was available to guests pre-pandemic.

It's a shame, because as long as guests like Still a fan are out there and continue to accept these upcharges from Disney, the company will continue to exploit its fans. Disney has learned that they can milk the Drones for every last penny, and because those guests continue to feed the beast, those of us with sensible budgets and expectations will be left with fewer and fewer options as our WDW experiences slowly deteriorate and erode.

October 26, 2021 at 2:32 PM

Paying $50 was a lot better than the crappy lottery system they used to have for ROTR, getting up at 7 a.m. only to find out that you're SOL. That used to be the only option to ride it, which I resented. Now you have other options, and that's a great improvement.

I rarely paid for upcharge experiences, except for the Halloween party, back when the ride lines were short at that event. It was well worth it, then. We didn't feel that the other upcharge events were a good value.

From what I can tell at this early juncture, LL is a good value if you use it judiciously. Yes, Fast Pass used to be free, but everyone used it; maybe LL will be worthwhile because fewer people use it?

In any case, we've known for years that a kind of paid fast pass system was coming, and probably inevitable. The cost of Disney vacations (and other theme parks, and other destinations) will only keep going up, because it costs a fortune to run these places. As long as Disney et. al. keep reinvesting in their parks, I won't resent that my vacation costs me 2-3 times more than it did in the past.

I happen to have a lot more money than in the past, when we had to scrape and claw to pay for our vacations. But that doesn't mean I'm going to squander it; I still believe in value for money. We will still be staying at a value resort and mostly eating counter service. But shelling out more for an improved park experience, with less wait times, sounds good to me. I used to put in dozens of hours of planning just to beat the crowds; now I can use some of that time to make money and pay for the trip!

Oh, and I strongly resent the implication that I'm a "drone", and I don't feel that dismissing many theme park guests with such a contemptuous term befits someone who is supposed to be a writer for this site. And if you're so strapped that you can't shell out $15 to skip a long line, that's YOUR problem.

October 26, 2021 at 3:29 PM

"Paying $50 was a lot better than the crappy lottery system they used to have for ROTR, getting up at 7 a.m. only to find out that you're SOL."

So what was wrong when the only way you could ride RotR was through a standby line, which was the procedure for much of this past summer? Why does there even need to be FP/LL or whatever queue avoidance system Disney wants to concoct? I've always believed that lines are the great equalizer, and by not giving guests an easy way around them (aside from strategically planning your day and arriving before rope drop/staying to closing) forces guests to prioritize their day. If you don't care that much about Star Wars, you're less likely to stand in the typical 90-minute standby line for RotR, but if you're a die-hard, you'll do whatever it takes to ride it whether that means booking a stay at the Halcyon or waking up at 4:00 AM to be first is line. Allowing casual guests to buy their way around lines to me is a dangerous precedent for Disney, and you're already seeing the ridiculous lengths people are going to just to save themselves comparably little time still with no guarantee that the ride will be operating when your LL arrive time come up.

That's the other thing that I just don't understand. This entitlement to ride attractions just because you walk through the gate. While Disney (and many other park operators) have excellent track records in maintaining and operating their rides at optimal capacity as close to 365 days a year as possible, things happen, and machines break. The problem is that guests are spending hundreds of dollars to show up, and feel that their day is ruined if they aren't able to get on the top attraction or see their favorite show. ILL is just a false promise that if you give Disney another $15/person, they'll "save a seat for you", but if something happens to the attraction (or you don't show up because something happens to you), tough cookies (word is that if the attraction breaks, you'll get a refund for unused ILLs in the form of a Disney Gift Card). Guests visiting a theme park should not be entitled to ride any specific ride, and I cannot count how many times I've gone to a park hoping to ride a certain attraction or have a specific experience that simply wasn't available on that day for one reason or another. I never stormed to customer service to ask for a refund, or plead with an op to let me in a line for an attraction that just hit capacity for the day, I made the most of the day that I could minus those desired experiences, no matter how much I was anticipating them. In many cases, I felt that my day was improved by not being burdened waiting or worrying about getting on that top attraction, but for whatever reason Disney is held to a higher standard (probably because of the expense), and Genie+/ILL (and the way FP+ used to operate by allowing 3 pre-reserved attractions) feed into that sense of entitlement.

I'm sorry if you're offended by the term "Drone", but it's a pretty common and apt moniker for fans that have a similar affinity to Disney (and particularly WDW). Saying you would spend $50 for 1 ride on RotR sounds an awful lot like what a Drone would do. Think about it...You're already spending $120+ in most cases just to walk into a WDW park, and then openly admit that you'd fork over another $50 just to bypass a line (which if planned smartly, you could probably find a time where you could get on RotR in less than 60 minutes) to ride a single ride (more expensive than any single upcharge attraction that I'm aware of in any park in North America). In fact, for $50, you could buy an extra day or two at UO on a multiday pass. It's sad that Disney has their hooks into people so hard that they would say something like that in a public forum - how do you think Disney figures out how to close loopholes and work-arounds so quickly?

FWIW, I could easily afford the costs of Genie+ and ILL, but they just aren't that valuable in the grand scheme of a visit to WDW (or Disneyland when the system is brought online there). It bothers me when people are so willing to open their wallet for such minuscule improvements, because you're playing right into Disney's hands, and practically encouraging Disney to drive the bus further off the cliff into absurdity. Disney's not the only offender here, but this trend of using "micro-transactions" to pad the bottom line is getting out of hand. $15 doesn't sound like much of an ask at the time, but by the time you've finished your week-long WDW vacation, that $15 has turned into hundreds of dollars when you add in all the members of your family and all the days you visit the park.

If the cost of a WDW vacation is going to go up 2-3 TIMES in the not so distant future, then there is something seriously wrong. I've been visiting WDW for over 25 years, and over that time, the cost for me and my family to visit the Orlando area has only gone up about 50% (we've never spend more than $2,500 for a week in Orlando - all in). However, if we were to plan a WDW vacation today similar to the one we took in January 2020 (we're on cycle to return in Fall/Winter 2022-23), I highly doubt we could get within 30-40% of what we spent less than 2 years ago without some serious compromises like staying completely off-site, driving 12-hours overnight instead of flying, visiting fewer days, or finally using the non-expiring park hoppers that have been in our safe for a decade to cut down on admission costs. Then when you factor in the inferior experience now compared to our last visit, it makes that 30-40% price increase feel even bigger. It makes kowtowing to all of these extra "little" charges Disney has added recently add up very quickly, and while it doesn't make WDW cost-prohibitive for me and my family, it certainly makes me rethink the way we visit Orlando.

October 26, 2021 at 9:54 PM

Russell wrote: "Why does there even need to be FP/LL or whatever queue avoidance system Disney wants to concoct?"

The obvious answer is because people want it and are willing to pay for it.

I'd gladly pay money to avoid standing in slow-moving claustrophobic queues. G+ and LL are not just "minuscule improvements" as you called them. They're a big deal to me and many other guests because it allows us to enjoy attractions without having to endure those long torturous waits. (Yes, 60 minutes is a long wait.)

And as you know, every major theme park offers skip-the-line paid passes that are much more expensive than Disney's G+/LL. If you don't want to pay the small charge to use the G+/LL services, then you can enjoy spending your day waiting and waiting in those long lines.

October 26, 2021 at 6:37 PM

I feel like LL is only good at some attractions when its really busy. My thing is Disney didnt need LL on rides like Figment. I think this would be better if Disney only used it on top tier rides like Test Track, Soarin, and Mission Space at Epcot

October 26, 2021 at 8:32 PM

For me, ILLs would absolutely be worth it for attractions like RotR, A:FoP or the upcoming Guardians Rewind. Especially after hearing about the cluster___ery that the initial lotto system involved. I don’t suspect that I would use it often after the initial purchase, unless I had friends visiting and we wanted to have a much better crack at riding in a reasonable amount of time. But to me, I can see the value in that. I’d much rather have a $7-$15 nipple-pinch for selected attractions than having to buy a blanket pass that either completely doubles my cost of admission or more. Even the value of UO’s “free” express passes that are given to Premium Resort Guests is offset by the fact that you must pay for a much more expensive hotel stay, prohibiting many budget-conscious families from taking advantage of it. If UO were to offer a LL-style option for Velocicoaster or Spider-Man it would level the playing field more for people who were willing to spend more for front-of-line passes for certain attractions but couldn’t necessarily afford the entire park’s worth. There will undoubtedly be people who learn to game the system but that will be true for any system over time. My understanding is that people who are willing to wait in ye olde traditional standby lines for Primo rides still have that option and are invited to do just that. There are several queues that I actually enjoy waiting in. But for a ride with wait times that regularly reach or exceed 60-120 minutes I’m 100% cool with splurging here and there. All queues are equal, but some are more equal than others.

October 26, 2021 at 9:11 PM

To Russell: I hear you and I’ve been on here a few times preaching for the old days for a first come first serve in a line queue. But sadly those days are long gone and I agree the price is going to continue to go up. From the early 80’s to the late 90’s I used to go to Disneyland once a year with my family. From 2000’s until now, i would go every few years and it has seems the crowd has gotten worst each time I went. I don’t know if its due to the So Cal pass or just the local going more, but there was definitely a change in how crowed the park got. I don’t consider myself a drone, but I’m not a pass holder, I don’t go every year and I usually go for two days. I have a son now and unfortunately I can only go during the time he off school. Which is peak time for Disneyland and we are going in Dec for only two days. So for me, it’s def worth paying to jump the line since I won’t be going back for another 3 to 4 years. I went 3 years ago for two days and all I can remember is running around chasing characters, looking at my smart phone, hoping back and forth. I was told this is how Disneyland is now. I felt I wasted more time than anything so if there is a system in place where i can just get into the park when I feel like it and I can pay to jump a line as walk my way around the park, yeah I’m going to take that offer and pony up because I don’t plan to come back for another 3 to 4 years. Just like apple, Disney has very loyal fans who will pay anything and it’s sad when they put down other theme park down when they never even went there.

October 26, 2021 at 9:53 PM

I'm travelling from Canada to go to WDW, and we haven't even been able to go since 2019, because of the pandemic. If our planned trip next year does happen, you're damn right I would be pissed if I never got to ride the new marquee attraction during our 10 day trip. It wasn't open when we went in Oct. 2019, and, assuming it's not in refurb or something next year, I will be glad to lock up an LL spot, rather than count on that lottery system they had in place (or I could get in line at the end of the day -- another option that wasn't available with the virtual queue). And if the ride happens to be down during my LL time slot, I'll get other chances. With the virtual queue, you could well miss out during your entire trip.

Yes the term "drone" is pretty insulting.

For us, the cost of an Orlando trip more than doubled, from 2007 (our first WDW visit), until 2019, and that's despite the fact that we dropped Universal from our itinerary after 2016. So I wouldn't be surprised if the price doubles again in the next 10-12 years. We always felt that the value is there, as long as most of the trip isn't consumed by waiting in long lines.

October 28, 2021 at 5:07 PM

I’m buying the “skip the Disney pass” and going to miss all the lines, yay !

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