Should Walt Disney World build another theme park?
Walt Disney World:
next comes the question of what to theme it by?
wdw has all that land out there just sitting there should be something to take it up now the question comes up should wdw make another park in that area? next comes the question of what to theme it by? Future is taken (epcot) movie themed taken (mgm) animals taken (animal kingdom)
and they have 2 water parks. Maybe a hotel? restaraunts? Maybe a florida adventures? (that just sounds stupid). But now comes the ever present problem of money were can they get it> if tickets go up ANY higher no one will come. Put in your input ya'll
I say a thrill park. Disney has the money, they dont need to raise prices anymore, they can spend a few bills. But put in some real highly themed all out thrill rides, something in the fashion of IOA. If that doesnt work for you, how about the mythological Villains theme park...ideas to come. DO NOT do a "Florida Adventure", lame and dead idea...if anything they should change DCA to DFA and rebuild DCA in Florida.
ONE MORE THING.....how about a copy of DisneySea that they have in Tokyo? Copy all of the rides 100% and even come up with some others, and throw in some sea critters.
I say they need to make Nightmare Land. Make highly themed rides of nightmares that we had as kids like the boogie man, zombies, monster under the bed. It could be cheaper and smaller than the other parks but don't make it terrifying since no family would go to it. It could have a awesome halloween event though.
The parks they have now need way more work before they think about another gate.
MGM needs a near-total retheme.
DAK is woefully short on attractions.
Epcot FW still has a long way to go to replace unrepeatable education with highly repeatable entertainment based rides.
Even MK needs a lot of work.
From Tom C
Posted August 9, 2006 at 11:43 AM
I agree with Darrell, the parks they have now need more work, plus, there is not enough attendance to warent a new park right now anyway. Once the tourism market rebounds a little more, maybe. If they were going to build a new park, my personal suggestion would be the villans park, it could be called "V" (both the roman numeral for 5 as it would be the 5th park, and the first letter of villans). You would be able to have a nice mix of thrill rides, with a nice mix of dark rides. This would never happen, as it would be too dark and scary for children... = ( Maybe they would have gotten some nice B&M coasters... (tear...)
A thrill park would do. I don't think a nightmare sort of spooky park would fit Disney. If they had a thrill park, it would be big. They would do real well with it. And DisneySea would be great with a few more attractions.
I agree that MGM really needs to be tore down and rebuilt...themeing wise.
How about this, since disney is officially dropping the MGM line next year, for the new Disney Studios, lets break it into new sections of the park.
Aerosmith's Rockin Rollercoaster
Record your own soundtrack: you can select a mix of ten songs to go through an interactive dark ride about some singing rats.
Beauty and the Beast Live
you get the picture...I'm not familiar enough to rename the whole park.
Thrill parks across the country are having problems. IOA has struggled to break even. Six Flags is selling off parks. Cedar Fair is having falling attendance despite lower prices. Busch is having to significantly alter their marketing strategy.
Even DCA with its coaster-themed-coaster, raft-ride-themed-raft-ride, wonder wheel, mad mouse, and S&S tower has failed to come close to original projections...at least without giving it away for free with DL admission.
I don't see Disney being in a big hurry to jump back on that tread-mill of economic doom.
Darrell, Darrell...this is one of those "what if" threads. We know the numbers and the reasons and yada yada. Its just fun to kind of use your imagination.
I dont see the Nightmare park being a good idea, though the V park would be nice, though I see that more of a land instead of a whole park. Just too darn dark for the likes of disney to make a whole park where pixie dust isnt the order of the day.
I've heard of a Night on Bald Mountain themed water ride that was supposed to go where Ariels Grotto/Poohish playground is now. Anyone else hear of that?
From Tom C
Posted August 9, 2006 at 2:35 PM
I had heard of a Churnobog ride, but the rumor I heard was that it was going to be an indoor suspended coaster (like BBW, but indoors...) but my source on that was unreliable.
"Darrell, Darrell...this is one of those "what if" threads."
Really, 'cause I thought it was a "should they" thread. If we're talking real world, then no. The have a capital budget of about $500 million a year for domestic parks, $350 million for WDW, $150 million for DLR.
(note, Six Flags has a total capital budget of $100 million for 29 parks....ouch)
Of that $350 million for WDW, atleast half goes to refurbs and maintainence. That leave something like $150 million a year for new attractions.
They could save up about 7 years of WDW budget and build a DCA (un)quality type park. I think that would be bad. I think they should use the money to fix the parks they already have.
And, I think they should build dark rides, flat rides and Everest quality semi-thrill rides.
Dream world.... Well heck, then I think they should build 15 new parks with 150 rides per park.
I don't think you'll see too much from Disney here in the U.S. with just having been given the go ahead to build a park there scheduled to open in 2010 in China (or Japan, I can't remember).
From Greg S
Posted August 9, 2006 at 5:43 PM
Japan already has 2 Disney theme parks, so I would assume China, since they only have 1.
Correct me if I am wrong, though.
Yeah, I agree, a thrill park is needed.
Most people who visit Disney are occassional visitors: once a a year, once every couple of years, once a lifetime. The traditional problems of thrill parks (being that thrill rides begin to bore people after about two years) wouldn't really effect Disney because of that.
Uh, the villains theme isn't bad, because Disney does have alot of great villains...and there's definately something that matches up there between villains and thrill rides. There's some problem there with kids, being that the younger ones may not like the place because of the "scary" elements.
I also really like the idea of a DisneySea cousin, or exploring some other non-film related avenue. When Walt built the place, it wasn't supposed to be a world of Disney movies, it was supposed to be a world of imagination, of all kinds.
What a great question in terms of theming. This will require some thought...
But yeah, a thrill park, definately, if for no other reason thatn simply to rope in all those Universal goers who skip Disney because of the lack of rides.
Yes, thrill park would be great, but what will the theme of this park be?
Music Park? Move Rockin Roller Coaster and put different genres of music (Classical, Rock, Jazz, etc).
Thrill park it a great idea folks, but what would the theming of this park be?
From Gareth H
Posted August 9, 2006 at 11:16 PM
You need something timeless, and thats pretty hard to get.
Thats the reason I am completely against a fast & furious ride at USF, but back to Disney.
What "classics" have Disney released in the past 10 years that can be adapted into a full theme park??
Gotta admit I can't think of any!
Well, also, the problem with themeing to fit the movies is that as new movies come out, people want the new elements built in...in the Magic Kingdom, it's pretty simple, as you just have to theme one ride or area, but in a park themed to totally be a world "off the screen and into living color", that can be a real challenge.
Music is a good concept, but I don't know how exciting it would be in execution. One thing I try and think of when coming up with theming for a park would be the "Main Street" area. With the MGM Studios, you build an old Hollywood area, right? But with music, what do you build? A new Hollywood?
Disney has a park for magic and memories, a park for movies and action, a park for technology and culture, and a park for animals and nature. These are all, individually, things which represent the Disney family.
This is really a challenging question.
What about HISTORY? A park which "time traveled" guests back to different parts of the ancient world? You could have a main vehicle to get into the park which served as your time machine, with LCDs for windows and maybe a little simulated hyperspeed. Once you got out into the park, your "main street" would be like a futuristic city "the present time" being like 2146 or some junk. Each ancient land would be gated, so to speak, with a "time portal", a smoke screen or mister with crazy lights and stuff around it. ONce on the other side, you'd be back in a world of the past.
You've got Midevil times, Greece/Rome (I wouldn't worry about being too acurate with the actual history. I'd set the oliseum right next to the Acropolyse...what are they going to do, aresst me?), Ancient Egypt, Ancient China/Japan, and, oh, let's say, the lost world of Atlantis (not too bad to get a rib in on Universal, eh?)
You've got dark-coasters inside the Pyramids, white water rafting on the Nile, hypercoaster Dragon Slaying, of course shows in the Globe theater/Roman Coliseum, all kinds of crazy thrill rides.
As far as story (how do I buy something with a VISA card while standing at the foot of the Sphynx?), you say that your scientist (I'll steal one from a show I did, Dr. Alvin Sleech...also from DOUG, a Disney property) has traveled back in time to these ancient worlds and gotten them up to speed, and introduced them to the wonderful world of capitalist venture (not to mention the wonderful world of mouse ears and souvenir pins).
You've got great opporunities for dining, shopping, riding, and amusement.
I say it's a go.
From Tom C
Posted August 10, 2006 at 6:02 AM
Didn't Eisner try to put in a history based park in Virginia, and no one wanted it? Don't get me wrong, it sounds like a cool idea, but playing devils advocate, I could see how you could risk offending and alienating large groups of people. Remeber the backlash at Disney with Pocohontas? Who decides what history is worth being in the park? Do we skip over bad time in history? Do we rose color it? Personally, I have a huge passion for history, (I grew up in Charleston, SC, history is practicaly in my blood) and I would LOVE to see a theme park (with rides) based on history.
I'd like to end this post with a quote from Harry S Truman: "The only thing new in this world is the history you don't know!"
Just an interesting thought:
If so many people are taking offense to the Pocahantas (which I remember), what to people think of AK's show starring her (I know its a cheesy show, but still) and the Pocahatas scene in Fantasmic. Are people taking offense to that?
I like the history idea though. I am pretty sure that Disney will build another park, just what it will be nobody knows!
However, there is suppositly ideas from AK that were thrown away that can be used!
People accepted Pocohantas as a character after disney came out and said "yeah, its a new spin on things."
As for the music thing, why not Motown? Detroit Rock City? Seattle? Any big musical mecca.
The historical park that Eisner tried to do was in Williamsburg, or Gettysburg and it was seen as "disrespectful" to put a disney spin on real life events that could have downplayed their importance, disrespect those that died fighting for our country.
Now they could do something like that in a place of non historical importance like say Orlando, but then it would offend historians as being pointless and a trivial park.And I think it would lose its impact. Cant win for losing.
Something that is timeless.....thats what disney needs....and thats really hard to do in a park that we havent seen a hundred times. Future comes and goes, and things that seem futuristic become obsolete. How many dinosaur parks can you have? The same can be said for ocean based parks. Thats where they need to get creative.
Yeah, in retrospect, I don't even like my own idea. I came up with it on the fly, so, what do you expect?
That's how good ideas get good...by weeding out the bad ones.
The American park was to be built in Williamsburg...it was supposed to be called "Disney's Colonial America." I had a fifth grade teacher while the whole thing was going on, adn he was a Disney nut...so we heard all about it.
I agree with Erik. It's got to be timeless. Animals are timeless...enetertainment is timeless.
The problem with the music park, still, is that even if you build Seattle, Motown, whatever, you're just recreating cities which are real, and I believe that Disney has two of those already (between Epcot and MGM Studios) and should do something a little more fantastical. Plus, music is specific, and is aural in nature. You need something a little more emersive...something which is a little more general and lends itself to more interperative storytelling.
That being said, I don't have any other bright ideas.
Uh, the Magic Kingdom is a five area park...and Disney has really developed a few of those areas into parks of their own (Tommorrowland=EPCOT, Adventureland=ANIMAL KINGDOM)...Disney could possibly look to expand that concept and use some of the other areas of MK for inspiration (an American decades park is an idea).
Other than that...there's Sci-Fi, Villains, Outer Space (seems like a good idea, but probably is suited to an inside park, not an expansive outdoor park), etc. This is a huge question.
What about a "history of Disney" park. Starting with Walt as a kid, things of his era even "old fashioned" rides of that era. There were some cool ones of the 20's that could be fun if they were made safer. You could have rides that demostrated how Disney as the parks we know came to be. They could have old theaters that ran first made Disney movies, like SteamBoat Willie. It would be educational. A lot of the colors would be just black and white with gray scale. Characters would be dressed in orginal costuming from earlier years. Souveigners could be from the orginal Disneyland era, I mean whats cuter than retro EEYOR? Food could be reto, maybe a Fondue bar, old fashioned hamburgers hot dogs milk shakes. Hey its just an idea.
Well, I think they should build something more thrilling park! The rides mayn't be as scary as Kingda Ka or Millennium Force but at least it's well-themed and has some big drops and inversions. I just saw the video of mikeyca from You Tube! His roller coasters are really really well-themed and they have the drops and inversions! Maybe Disney can take that for an example!
OK...here is my idea on how to theme a new Disney park. I will admit up front it is a little lame and cheesy, but perhaps someone with more imagination could do something a little more with it. But, I think it is general enough that you would avoid some of the problems currently faced by basing things on movies, etc.
The new theme park would be themed around COLOR. Since Disney started as an animator and developed many of the technologies associated with color animation, I think it would be an appropriate theme. I think they even had a TV show at one time called "Disney's Wonderful World of Color."
Anyway, each land would be themed after a particular color...much as in the original L. Frank Baum's "The Wizard of Oz." I think this could work in either a traditional Disney park that has a little something for everyone, or in an exclusive thrill park.
In the traditional park...you could have something like "Sunshine Land" (yellow) which would feature mostly rides for the little ones. Then, you could have "Water World" (blue), which would be a smaller version of Disney's fantastic water parks, but you don't have to go to a whole other park to experience. You could have a land themed after "Fire" (red) which would feature thrill rides/things geared to teens/older visitors. You could even incorporated the "V/Villains" idea here...this area would be predominately black and feature the villains. The central area/entry area could have a rainbow theme or something.
As far as a thrill park, really the only idea I could come up with here would be to have some sort of dueling coaster with loading platforms in two separate color areas. The track would feature, say, "Blue" or "Red" depending on where you loaded...and then when they "interacted," the track would be purple or something. I don't know...just sort of thinking while I type.
^ um... No
The only concept so far that has sounded any good was Dark Land (dark magic kingdom) or the historical park sounded a little interesting, but Epcot focuses a lot on history in the world showcase, so why do it again?
as far as necessity, totally unneeded, fix what you have, MGM DAK both barely entertain over a half a day. However, MGM isn't as bad as it is being made out to be, what i'd like to see, is a subway from the Hollywood section to the back lot area
This is always my favorite thought when I’m in the Disney area. That WHAT’S NEXT thought. Last year I was talking to a Monorail “Pilot”. I asked this question, “Why hasn’t the monorail been expanded?” His response was interesting; he said the monorail is expected to begin expanding by 2009 to connect theme parks and some of the deluxe resorts. He also said that with the setting of the next theme park would start the monorail expansion. This is not confirmed at all!!! But, if any of this is a little true… NICE!!!
Ok, it would be nice to create an American Theme park, like they wanted to do in Virginia, make it a historical site, an outdoor Disney museum combined with American history. However, is that the basis of a multi-billion dollar theme park? No. It could be a small park, like Downtown, or their Water parks. A Disney interactive historical museum, no major attractions. It would get enough visitors.
As for what I would want the next major Theme park to be, I would want more thrill rides. Lets face it, if you go to Orlando and you want to go on RIDES you’re going to Islands of Adventure to ride the Hulk and Dueling Dragons. I say, use that huge piggy bank. Look at Cedar Point Park, Six Flags, Universal, and even Busch. Take their top rides and improve on them. Power Tower, Millennium Force, Nitro, Medusa, Mummy the Ride, Hulk, Apollo’s Chariot etc.. Those are great rides. I have visited each park just to ride them. I’d rather go to one park and ride them all.
You would have to balance the parks' theme so everyone would want to pay to get into the park. You can’t have just a Villain park; it would keep too many kids out, which keeps out the would-be paying parents, hence bad idea. With that said, go for a good and evil park. A Hero and Villain park, combining the Disney related characters with your attractions. You have plenty to choose from, such as Hercules and Hades dueling it out in the first ever, inverted and stand-up coasters, intertwining tracks. Inverted would be a white, Hercules and the blue and black stand-up would be for Hades. You’ll have a soundtrack playing behind you and the whole thing is themed as a battle. You can add more visual effects to the ride if you use the setup Universal did with The Mummy, the ride. Only here, you would use indoor stages, but have the cars go out side for drops and loops. That area could be called Mt. Olympus.
Then over to Agrabah, you ride a floorless seated coaster chasing after Iago who stole the lamp. You follow the story with a sound track behind you and for the images you can use “water screens”, I don’t know the technical name, which they use in Fantasmic. Sure you get a little wet, but you combine a story with a ride. That is all Disney wants to do with every ride.
How about Jamestown? Where you would ride the rapids with Pocahontas.
That’s just a few ideas. I could go on. But I will stop there.
From PM 24-7
Posted August 19, 2006 at 2:51 PM
Strategically, the only way Disney would need to roll out another park is if a competitor threat begins to mount in the Southeastern portion of the country.
Over the course of the last 10-15 years, Disney has only acted when other entertainment has become a threat to their dominence in the area (and have reacted with an acceptable alternative to the competition to keep visitors on their properties):
Universal= Disney builds a studio themed park
Busch Gardens & Sea World= Animal Kingdom
Cruises (Miami/Ft. Lauderdale)= Disney Cruise line
Florida Beaches= Water Parks
Nightlife/Trendy Restaurants= Downtown Disney/Pleaure Island
For Disney, building new parks is a waste of time, right now, as there doesn't seem to be a new niche that any other competitor is filling.
WDW visitors by and large utilize Park Hopper Passes and while they could raise these prices, it seems like the current prices on these passes ($150-$200+) is pretty steep for park goers as it is...A new park would be just add additional operational expenses and take profit away as all of the parks are covered under the Hopper system.
(sorry, starting to go "Darrell" a little bit...).
If I had to come up with an additional park, it would be an indoor water park...There still seems to be some flexibility with prices in the arena as the water parks are add-ons to the Hopper Passes currently. This park could have Sea theming and might be able to incorporate some Sea World style animal attractions along with gigantic indoor beaches and wave-pools (continue to keep people from visiting both Sea World and the local beaches and on Disney property). "Water Park Packages" could cost more as add-ons to the current Hoppers.
I foresee the next big Disney theme park opening in WDW when another entity starts pulling guests from Disney property, again...There just doesn't seem to be an abundence of draws that can't currently be satisfied by Disney in the area, right now.
From PM 24-7
Posted August 19, 2006 at 2:01 PM
Suggestion (not actually a theme park):
A gigantic Disney mall. Retailers would kill to have access to Disney clientele and Disney's current (non-Disney merchandise) offerings in the shopping arena are pathetic.
A Disney Mall could be the next Mall of America (or a Las Vegas 'Forum Shops' style experience)!
Every trip we take to WDW we end up taking a day and going off Disney property to shop...This could be a cash cow for Disney as retailers would likely spend top dollar leasing space to have access to millions of tourists each year...(not to mention there is likely a whole segment of clientele that might visit the area more often, provide adults more options on Disney property, and this could be a great way to keep the parks less crowded...
That is not a bad idea. They could give Mall of America a run for their money. Its really the only logical next step. They have a lot of places for shopping with all outside areas, why not a big area like a mall, complete with a mini Disney Quest, a Mini theme park with some good little dark rides and of course a lot of big Anchor stores. I think they would need to do it someplace other than right in Orlando though, maybe someplace where they dont have much of a presence like the midwest or Northeast.
That being said, that was funny about them competing with Florida beaches. They sought to capitalize on it with the Disney Beach resort in Vero Beach, but without a theme park its just another hotel.
I think they should make a huge indoor waterpark unlike anything on Earth. Make it Hawwaian Themed.
Speed Slide bigger than Summit Plummit
Master Blaster style watercoaster that is longest on Earth
A family raft ride that combines water ride elements with a great dark ride theme and state of the art animatronics.
Splash Boat like Perlious Plunge but themed.
Lots of kiddie slides and other neat family rides. Plus a Surfing Machine and a wave pool with two different areas. Hawwiaian Island like one with trees and a Volcano in the middle with mild sized waves. Then the one to give a surfing experience with Hawwaian Sized waves and a sandy shore. Add on a nice hotel and a fun affordable family restaurant.
I think that could combines thrills with family fun plus record breaking.
I think we should check this!
I think Tokyo will build Tokyo DisneyAir? That could be a great idea for Walt Disney World.
Snatched this from another site:
According to the Inside the Magic podcast, an errant e-mail from CEO Mr. Iger suggests that a thrill park themed around the Disney Villains is part of the long range plan for the company.
So....what was all that about numbers all your number crunching statistic lovers? This is just a rumor....but its still out there.
Nah, I think this will happen! Iger wants to make himself known so I thought a park would be in the future. They always seem to by toying with the idea of a Villian Park. However, how well would that work since many of the villians are scary and that would not go with Disney's overall family appeal!
Thats the whole idea though, a villain themed thrill park. I dont know, it does go against everything that people like Scott and Darrell stand for, in the family issues section while pounding their fists against the doors of pleasure island. But the sad thing is thats the way most of disneys fans think. They want it to stay for families. To get disney into the thrill business.....well, they might isolate a bunch of people and end up with a park like IOA that the company doesnt want to dump money into because it doesnt bring in as many people as they thought. The real problem is that they should focus on the other parks, mainly MGM and AK. Bring those up to par before going all in on another park.
Well, that's right. MGM Only has 2 "real" main rides, Tower of Terror and Rock n' Roller Coaster. Maybe they can add some thrill rides again in the rides, the question is where? MGM is the smallest park in the resort...
From Gareth H
Posted August 25, 2006 at 8:20 AM
And look at those 2 rides, people die on them, so money has to be spent on taming them down, having positive publicity spun on it and promoted thoughtout the florida corridor!
So theres a huge slice of the MGM pie eaten right there!!
Just like to point out thats it rare for anyone to actually die or get seriosuly hurt on those rides Or any), but everytime someone does it affects them, and Disney, in a big way. Regardless of the fact that thousands of people ride it without harm everyday of the year!!
From Gareth H
Posted August 25, 2006 at 8:22 AM
Oh, to post about the actual subject of this topic.
The land is a great buffer for Disney. It keeps it secluded, far away from anyone else. Except the Lake Buena Vista entrance, which I always though was quite odd that they built it so close to other stuff.
So Disney having the vast empty land gives them a buffer, but i'm sure they also get a tax break as its agricultural land. Of course there is the future expansion options, but hotels and golf courses will come before new parks.
In reality Orlando doesn't need anything else.
Look at it this way, most tourists come for a max of 2 weeks (3 weekers nearly always do a week and the beach or cruise)
In 2 weeks you can't fit everything in anyway.
The average tourist splits a 2 week vacation down something like this.
1 week disney - 4 parks, 2 water parks = 6 days.
3 days Universal resort - 1 day each park and 1 day run around fav rides at both (Brits ALWAYS go for the 14 day ticket option and after asking 99% do 3 days)
1 day Seaworld (14 day flexi ticket)
1 day Wet'n'Wild (14 day flexi ticket)
1 day Busch Gardens (14 day flexi ticket, free transportation too from O-Town or Kissimmee)
And at least 2 rest/shopping days.
So to add another park (Don't forget Aquatica or whatever its called will be open 2007 or 2008)
would be pointless UNLESS its completely different from anything else and is worthy of a visit..
Also, thats assuming the tourists have 2 weeks otherwise its a quick rush to get it all in..
But it's not Disney's job to not create things just because you wont fit them in. Their job is to design and build new parks and attractions so that they can attempt to steal business from universal and all the others. Something to compete with IOA would be cool, but, I don't think it's going to happen
I think it is disneys job to build something that you can fit in. If you have a week in town, and you dont want to fit in a thrill park because your little one is too scared to go on anything more frightening than haunted mansion and faster than Pooh, on a stick, then that means the average family who loves disney will not love that park. It will sit empty with nothing but overamped teens that love big bad coasters.....Six Flags does it and look at the trouble they're in. Seriously, disney is in business to make money, everyone who loves disney has thrown that at me time and again when I say anything about disney caring....they will not build a park that will not fill almost to capacity. In my humble opinion, a thrill park, while the idea is cool and very much a fantasy in my head, themed to the hilt is still a thrill park, and the core business of disney is "family entertainment". Could they do it? Yep. Will they do it, most likely not. Especially with the problems of all the other thrill parks, and their own thrill rides....granted most of those are patron induced.
ERik, my comment was more towards people saying they shouldn't because then how would tourists fit in universal, sea world, and the others. it;s their job to design thing for everyone, yes, but it isn't their job to make sure you are able to visit everyone in orlando while you are in town, it;s actually quite the opposite. the more they can do to fit every niche of theme park/resort experience into WDW the better from their stand point, because it give you less and less reasons to leave the grounds.
Does anyone have information on how to suggest new ideas - theme park ideas - to WDW.
Any insight would be appreciated - thanks
From Erik Yates
Posted September 5, 2006 at 1:43 PM
A lot of parks will not even look at your ideas unless you are represented by a firm of some kind, be it architectural, law, or other. They want the plans in writing, as well as concept art and schematics of the ride and working systems. Disney doesnt do this as much as Universal does. Disney does most things in house through their "Imagineers". The best way to get through to them is to go to school and become an Imagineer.
In the near future they should,Disneyland can't expand anymore.Walt Disney World has more room to expand.Other disneyparks may be working on them.
I still think making a music park would be to Disney's best interest. Plus they can put all the thrills that we are looking for in Disney World!
From Erik Yates
Posted December 12, 2006 at 2:38 PM
Dont know if it will happen, but there has been all kinds of talk of a new road to nowhere. It eventually goes to Epcot, but for the time being it will go to nowhere. Hmmmm...could that be the road that leads to a fifth park?
Or could disney be seeking to build in China, as people from disney have been seen all over China. Dont know...
I would like to see some park create a roller coaster that perfectly sycronized with music. Rock n Roller Coaster is close, but its more of background music.
I just think a Fanasia park would be cool because you could justify putting big roller coasters at Disney World. Plus the themeing would work because music is abstract.
Just my idea! Most likely the next park will be in China. They have a BIG Audience
I just read in the paper the other day, The Daily Progess for those of you wondering which is in Charlottesville, VA), that Disney was actually talking about putting an amusement park in Virgina close to Washinton, D.C. a while back. Anyone who has any information on that would be greatly appreciated. That kind of surprises me but also at the same time doesn't. It would be smart for a company to put something there because of the draw of the capitol.
Well Disney wanted to build a Ski Resort in CO a long time ago (before Disney World). Their first attraction? Country Bear Jamoboree!
There is some Disney trivia for you!
If they are going to build it anywhere, its going to be a place that they can keep it open all year round I imagine!
To heck with expansion overseas, build the fifth park in Florida and make it a park solely dedicated to the extinct and removed attractions of yesteryear. Every single attraction that Disney was forced to remove or changed up on their own accord should have a place for the many fans of those attractions who witnessed the demise of their Florida version of attractions. One can also argue it would be more thrilling by nature because a lot of the former attractions were considered too intense. This park would include beloved attractions such as Alien Encounter, 20,000 Leagues (but perhaps a scarier version), Dreamflight (remember that one), the Skyway, Mission to Mars, Horizons, the soon to be removed Wonders of Life Pavillion from Epcot, World of Motion, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, Journey into Imagination, the Penny Arcade, a plethera of retired shows can be rejuvenated, and the park can become the new home to rides removed from their former parks in years to come. I don't quite know how popular the park would be, but I know I would certainly go to this park over the MGM and AK parks, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this sentiment. They can call it "Disney's Yesteryear Park" or "Disney's Nostalgia". It would be great for those of us angry with the removal of an attraction...and I think it would work.
i have been going to florida every year since i was like 7 im 20 years old now...building a new theme park would make it more interesting to go to something new but how about just taking the money and adding more themes into the parks you have already and making things up to date now?....like add another ride or something in animal kingdom..there needs to be just a little more in that theme park..they already have a seaworld based on everything in the ocean, magic kingdom based with everything different in it, epcot on the future, mgm on movies, and the water parks are awesome. i think magic kingdom should add a ride for the mickey mouse club house kids t.v. show i bet the children would love that. im just here to try and help thank you.
From Rob P
Posted March 14, 2008 at 5:38 AM
I'll keep it short and simple.
Remember the movie "Westworld" ?
Well that's it in a nutshell.
4 "lands" inhabited by advanced animatronics ( robots ) which interact with us. Then , when it all goes horribly wrong , there'll be all that running and screaming ( thanks to Jeff Goldblum for that line ).
No fastpasses needed here.
From Karin S
Posted March 14, 2008 at 11:13 AM
It's being reported they are exploring the possibility of a new adult park - "Night Kingdom" - to be developed near Pleasure Island. It would allow only 2,000 people at a time.
From Tim W
Posted July 7, 2008 at 6:33 AM
i think that they should foccus on making improvements to all 4 other disney theme parks before anything. but if they were to build another park, my ideas would be a new World Showcase featuring more world countries as a separate theme park.....right now there is too mch at Epcot and not enough rides at World Showcase. They could make it so much better. And in a result Epcot could also expand with rides based on science and discovery and put in a weather themed ride.
From Ben James
Posted July 7, 2008 at 10:14 AM
I like your idea about a new world showcase, however, which countries would spend that kind of money to promote their country? You do know that those countries actually pay Disney to be there. They pay for the operating costs of their respective section.
From Tim W
Posted July 7, 2008 at 10:16 AM
thanks, they could ask for participation from other big countries such as Spain or the long awaited Russian pavillion. but i think they definately need more actual rides at least and not just circle visions. And if that doesn't work with more country participation, they can always try to fund the theme park themselves in small amounts. The World showcase has so much potential to be something better than a half park with few rides that don't attract nearly enough people. the only ride that is spectacular is Maelstrom. most others fail to meet Disney standards.
From Tim W
Posted July 7, 2008 at 10:46 AM
the music park does sound cool but they have a small focus on tht at DHS, they could even focus on it more there. Villains park sounds cool but tough choosing what type of rides with a limited amount of amazing and cool villains (jafar, ursula, maleficient, etc.....the big powerful ones unlike cruella or ratcliffe or scar or quite a dew others).
I have four separate ideas based on what others have said.
First, I think the best way to go is to make the parks Disney already has BETTER. It is SO true that a straight thrill park probably wouldn't sell as well to the average Disney customer (parents and their kids). So why try? Disney should incorporate a few awesome thrill rides into the parks they already have. Specifically at Animal Kingdom and Hollywood Studios. This is where Disney can expand on the villain theme. An Ursula themed ride in an ocean themed section of Animal Kingdom, for example. But it has to be an awesome THEMED coaster/thriller. It can't be a sit down dark ride for everyone of all ages. It is true that Disney NEEDS these thrillers in their parks. There's already enough for the kids (that's why people go!). What they don't need to do is have a whole new park full of thrillers. A few new, well-themed ones in their already existent parks is all that's needed.
Second, Hollywood Studios (old MGM) needs a new theme. This is where we get our new theme park. Just revamp the one already there. The Hollywood/Movie theme is needed to compete with Universal (understood here). But, I have always felt that Hollywood Studios is just too hodge-podge. You've got Rockin' Roller Coaster, Tower of Terror, Muppets 3-D, and more, but with no differentiation between them like at Magic Kingdom. Hollywood Studios just takes all of these attractions and throws them together. The "Hollywood" theme that the park is supposedly based on, really doesn't resonate anyway. Apart from The Brown Derby and the Tower of Terror, what else is "Hollywood". The Mummy, Jurassic Park, and now Harry Potter are movies that guests love at Universal (and kick-butt rides have been made after them). I say give me this in Disney form. Theme rides after the movies. Not talking with Crush, or Mike from Monsters Inc. But give me a battle between Titan and Ursula with water and fire. Or Zeus and Hades. Or take me flying over Hook's pirate ship (a la Superman Flight). You see what I mean? Base things of of their own movies. There isn't enough of that in Disney parks. Villains are great for these rides, because when we make it through the ride, having defeated the villain (like in the movies), we all feel better.
Third, there is plenty to be done at EPCOT. Disney should focus on conservation and "green" living and building. They tried in a few paces, but now these topics are EVERYWHERE in the media and society. "Green" is the next big thing. If Disney gets into the business of teaching and telling people of how to live this way, people will listen, and Disney will cash in on it. Whatever Disney says, more often than not, people do. Add some awesome coasters to a lacking EPCOT; base them off of the countries already there.
Fourth and finally; people never leave Disney empty-handed. A Disney themed mall could be HUGE. A destination unto itself. No joke. I totally agree with this idea. But let's not make it a completely indoor OR outdoor mall. Incorporate both aspects. Outdoors most definitely must be themed. Or else it would just be another Orlando-area outdoor outlet mall. Disney themed streets and store fronts galore. Characters greeting children, and Disney themed dining establishments. The indoors would be more like a traditional mall, but uniquely Disney in some way.
A long idea from a big Disney fan. We all go and return because of that Disney magic. And so no matter what, we will always do so. But a few new perks and thrills never hurt!
From Tim W
Posted July 8, 2008 at 7:44 AM
i agree they do need so many more thrills in the park. An ocean themed are would be really cool at animal kingdom. It would work well with the nemo musical. Its just bad that its in a bad pot unable to build much around it. But B4 doing any more lands at AK they need Beastly Kingdomme finally built! And yes Epcot needs some Coasters! None as of right now........They should use some old ideas such as that one focussing on magnetism or something. Spark Cap Coaster or something like that which was planned for Disneyland Paris. More movie rides would be cool at DHS but i think it needs to concentrate on music themed rides and definately redoing the Great Movie Ride! i dont think they need to just focus on movies there however, focus on the whole entertainment world. But they still need more thrills that will boost attendence. If a sep World showcase was built they could also bring many coasters to the original future themed Epcot and to the new World Showcase! I still think thats wats best for them to expand on coasters.
There were some ideas for a water based park in the 2006 Disney Annual Report.
These look pretty nice and there could be a lot done maybe expand on the water based animals. Have a Ship battle in the middle of the lake along with the water show proposed in the pictures. Bring in a Submarine Voyage and the Crush Coaster in Disneyland Paris.
From Tim W
Posted July 8, 2008 at 9:28 AM
the water show is Disney's world of color coming to DCA. I would love to see this come to DHS too however. Ive seen the other pictures too one looks like a pirates land perhaps the proposed pirates water park for wdw years ago or proposed pirate expansion for hong kong disneyland. And the other looks like a water/little mermaid land almost.........i have no clue wat tht is but myb something for Tokyo Disneysea. However it does look like a new theme park so myb they will bring a disneysea to wdw or somethin.
From Tim W
Posted July 8, 2008 at 9:30 AM
I still believe however that WDW needs to build a new WS to expand their park and have more diverse cultures to learn about. i would put a disneysea on hold just cuz its not necessary to have this park with many rides tht are in other wdw parks. i think tht AK needs the most updates especially with getting rid of planet watch. they should update dinoland and get rid of the carnie atmosphere. make camp minnie mickey better with rides about brother bear, bambi, or other disney forest movies. (AND change the name of tht land! please) Asia and africa r pretty good but move lion king to africa, put the old jungle book show in asia andmake improvements to kali river rapids. And definately build beastly kingdomme the greatest part of animal kingdom never built. it would def bring more thrill rides to AK. then they should focus on pixar place expansion in DHS and introduce more pixar rides tht could eventually replace the lessening popularity of backlot tour. then magic kingdom needs more e ticket rides such as volcano mountain and lewis and clark river expedition, to replace less popular and outdated rides there.
From Tim W
Posted July 8, 2008 at 2:04 PM
one more thing if disney was to make a new world showcase how well would its a small world fit in there as the park icon
From Tim W
Posted July 9, 2008 at 7:11 AM
with its a small world at the opening belt, an International Gateway or so, this park could branch of into three islands(more of the division of continents as planned for the never built westcot.) the three large islands could feature about 8 countries each.they would all be connected by a bridge where at each one would have a large seating area tht would touch into the lagoon. This would make excellant seating for Illuminations being more in a circle than a curved strait. There could be like a diagonal bridge connecting every single island together sort of in the shape or a pentagon. The first one on the left side would be Europe to the east. middle would be the Americas or New World, and then a whole island tht would blend together asia and africa since there would be minimal participation from african countries.
Europe: Spain- Bull Rider Coaster
Ireland- Irish Dancing Show
United Kingdom- Big Ben Coaster
France- Hunchback of Notre Damn Musical
Germany- Rhine River Cruise
Italy- Gondolas du Italia
Greece- Hercules The Museical
Scandanavia- Maelstrom Boat Ride
America: USA- Hall of Presidents Show
Canada- River Rafting
Mexico- Gran Fiesta Tour Boast Ride
Peru- Raging Spirits Coaster
Brazil- Rainforest Rollercoaster
Venezuela- Mystic Rythyms Show
Carribean- carribean music Show
Africa/Asia: Russia- Moscow Sleds Coaster China- Mulan the Musical
Japan- Godzilla Bullet Train
Turkey- Sinbad's Voyages Boat Ride
India- Prince of Persia Coaster
Morocco- Aladdin Musical
Egypt- Pyramid Escape Coaster
Equatorial Africa- Heartbeat of Africa Show
i am just new to this website so forgive me if anything i say is already written
i have always thought disney could do something like this. with their money, resources, land and imagineering, the best thrill park in the world could easily be made. from what i have read, the heroes and villians idea is probably my favourite. the potential for thrill rides on this theme are huge and i couldnt begin to describe my ideas but i wont go into detail. i dont know when or if this will ever happen but disney need to see that this could be a big money maker for them.
as for updating older attractions, why doesnt hollywood studios incorporate films that disney own like universal? the disney/pixar route doesnt look too thrilling and is going to be too cutesy. they take too much time to plan a ride, universal made two Mummy rides (hollywood & orlando) which were awesome. that movie came out 1999 and the ride was built for 2004/5 if i am correct. meanwhile disney take 13 years to make a decent toy story ride(buzz lightyear was terrible) in my opinion they need to stop the humming and hawing and get crackin with a new thrill park.
It would definitely be great for guests if Disney built a heroes and villains thrill park and would probably blow all competition out of the water. However I don't think this will become a reality at least not in the near future. it would be brilliant though and i'm sure well worth a visit.
From James Rao
Posted July 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM
While I would love to see another Disney park at some point, I think (like many others have stated) there is a lot of work still to be done in the existing parks before moving on to something new. Don't get me wrong, I love all the ideas everyone has listed, and I am not at all opposed to expansion, I would just rather see WDW beefed up as it is first. There are just too many "dead areas" in the existing parks right now for Disney to be thinking about adding a whole new gate.
From Tim W
Posted July 11, 2008 at 3:29 PM
that is too true. while we would all love another experience, there is alot of updates and better attractions that can be built first. i dont get that heroes/villains park by the way, it just sounds complicated with not enough imaginable rides.
One thing we need to remember here is time and money. I don't mean for Disney but for the families who are coming for a vacation. How much more would a park hopper ticket increase if another park was constructed? How many more days would a family have to stay to be able to try to visit every park including at least one water park? If you are given a limited amount of time off each year, then it would be easier to try to plan a trip around the four parks.
If you fly then there are two days of your trip taken up of airport and trasportation to and from the airport. You are lucky if you get at least the afternoon and night on your first day and the morning and early afternoon on your last. So if you are allowing a week for your trip then you have five full days to take your family to WDW. That gives you a day at each park and one at a water park if you so choose. Driving here, well one can calculate based on where they are from.
So if you get a vacation package because your kids just want to do Disney (or because that is all you can afford during this trip) then you wind up paying for a park that you may not have time to visit or you sacrifice one that you know that you already enjoy.
In my opinion, just based on what it is easier on many families I know, Disney just needs to expand and improve the existing parks with more rides and experiences. Plus extra hotels do not hurt either.
From Tim W
Posted July 21, 2008 at 9:34 AM
yep i agree.....if more theme parks were built the cost would rise and people might even have to stay longer to cram in another theme park!
they should build a roller coaster park with like 10 coasters and 30 thrill rides and they should have the money to build some pretty awesome coasters
But that is not what disney is about. It is about theming and quality, not quantity and random thrill rides. Disney is a place where the rides have a purpose and really good theming. That is what puts Disney apart from so many other parks, the fact that there aren't just rides plopped along the pavement just for the purpose of being there. I personally would love a Disney Sea type park on Disney property. It would be a really big hit. 20,000 leagues under the sea could make a comeback bigger and better than ever.
Sorry, accidentally pressed submit twice.
From Tim W
Posted July 25, 2008 at 3:38 PM
i would lvoe a disneysea but how would you work around having tower of terror here especially in the american waterfront area.........i think that one could be replaced.
Yeah, the American Watrfront wouldn't be in...America, especially since the main ride would be something that is already at the world. I don't think Disney's America would work at the World because we already have The America Pavillion at Epcot and Liberty square.
i would put in a theme thrill park based around the lands in the Kingdom Hearts Trilogy.
From skip skip
Posted September 16, 2010 at 3:48 PM
you guyz have to realize that if they build a thrill park it would take time for all of the thrillrides to come in because disney has a way of staggering its ride realeses at the disney parks to keep all of them interseting all the time
Disney America would be a perfect fifth theme park.. History, old wild west, thrill rides, another land for super heroes, pirates.. And another area with water and lots of it.
I think a DisneySea park would be super successful as well as a park similar to Islands of Adventure. And because of the current Princess exspansion project maybe they could built something the male demographic can enjoy!
I think they need to add 2-3 rides to Animal Kingdom, and 1-2 to Hollywood Studios before building a new park. Though, I would love a 5th park. Disney Sea would be my choice.
From Tyler Bell
Posted November 8, 2010 at 9:18 AM
Bring on disneysea!
Agree with James Rao. They can barely handle what they currently have. Work on improving the current parks before considering another.
Also, just because they have the resources does not mean they have incentive to do it. As much as they love to make people's "dreams come true," they are foremost a corporation, and a fifth theme park is out of the question with the current economical shortcomings.
The current economical shortcomings is not a problem, since wise companies invest in bad times to seize in good times.
But it does not make sense to have a fifth gate. Someone who has never been to central Florida would take two weeks to vist all the major theme parks, not counting the water parks. 2 days in MK, 2 in Epcot, 1 in AK, 1 in DHS, 1 in USF, 1 in IOF, 1 in Sea world, 1 in Bush Gardens, 1 in Cape Canaveral and 1 in Legoland.
And people are taking shorter vacations than they use to do in the past. So, any new park would canibalize the others instead of convincing the existing customers to stay longer.
Perhaps a small park, like the water parks or Discovery Cove, could work for Disney, but not a big one.
Besides that, as was stated above, Disney needs to take care of AK, DHS and Epcot before thinking in a new park.
Villians, including a pirate land! A villian parade would be awesome! And they could use similar music for the fireworks that they do at halloween, which I must add is the best time I have ever been to WDW, mickey's not so scary halloween party is AMAZING!!!
Villians and thrill rides could easily go hand in hand!
Natalie, I don't know if you're a coaster rider, but Geauga Lake in Ohio had a coaster that was called The Villain!
From Joel S
Posted November 27, 2010 at 8:49 AM
The Villian concept has been played with for years. A villian themed area was proposed for the former 20,000 leagues site, featuring a water coaster. An entire park dedicated to Villians would be Great but unlikely to be built. Villians have a better chance for a themed section much like Wizarding World of Harry Potter in one of the parks. I like the Fantastic Four DisneyWorld currently has. As far as park go. Just a continuation of improvement and development of the already existing parks is all they need. Now Further hotels, resorts, restaurants surrounding the parks is always a good idea. Major themed rollercoasters with large theming elements is A++!!
ALSO, Disney America which was planned for Wash. DC area would have been a great park when it was proposed. Instead it got shot down due to road limits and population and various other concerns and problems and Animal Kingdom was then conceived. I think it would be a Great idea still. A park CAN operate year around in the Mid Atlantic region. And just think how Awesome it would be if built Today then if it was built over 15 years ago. The various themed areas and ideas are endless. IT would be very successful and allow for expansion for more parks from both disney and other companies. I do not think it would take from King's Dominion or Busch Gardens normal attendance but encourage friendly competition and in the end, the fellow tourist/park goer Wins!!!
From James Rao
Posted November 27, 2010 at 9:55 AM
Still so much work to be done in the existing parks before Disney expands further...
From Brad G.
Posted November 27, 2010 at 8:24 PM
They may expand on the villain/thrill park concept to include Marvel characters. Universal only uses a handful of Marvel characters "in their attractions". I would think that Disney would have thousands of characters to choose from.
From Brad G.
Posted December 1, 2010 at 7:19 PM
I read this from a trusted poster on another site. He said that the name of WDW's 5th theme park may be World of Marvel. Another poster claimed that he heard that Disney was buying out the Universal/Marvel contract. These sound like logical rumors compared to some of the others.
I think that another park is a plausible idea. Many people throw the existing parks under the bus, but take a look around, is anyone else doing anything even close to Disney? (yes I know the wizarding world of Harry Potter, but it isn't on the same scale). I believe that the future was big scheme the Walt himself had. I believe EPCOT's original idea, before it became a permanent World's Fair, was to have essentially a Disney community. This would be a very cool option for the Orlando complex. Something very similar to Tokyo's DisneySea, with a resort surrounded by attractions framing a city of tomorrow, not unlike tomorrowland, but a whole different emersive experience.
Another great idea could follow much of what the widely popular video game EpicMickey has created. Perhaps an Animation Station? Afterall, what was Disney built upon? A sound idea taking one back to the powers of creativity, dreams, and perserverance. With rides themed around Disney's animated movies and bringing them to the drawing board once again.
Just throughts, although I totally love all the other ones here! ;)
Ooooooh man oh man am I excited about this! So many oppurtunuties. But first I would like to point out the realistic. In time, Disney will make another theme park. They can't just keep building on what they have forvyears and years to come. But by time they do make another one, we will probable start hearing rumors about it in like 5-7 years. Just rumors, no official stuff. If Disney were to make a theme park though, there is no doubt there would be a mob of people on the first couple of months. If they make the park like no other park ever created in history, they would make billions within the first couple of months. And I think I have a pretty good idea as to how that could happen.
To start, Disney would have to completely rethink about everything they have done with other parks. Enough of this baby, princess mild ride, stuff. If most of the rides at mk were brand new rides, people wouldn't like them as much. Also, Disney needs to focus more on the rides than ANYTHING else. Dinsey keeps coming out with more hotels, resterunts, and even shows. Main priority= new rides.
The park in my opinion should have it's main focus be on villains mainly because it's a little to dreary for the Disney image. Instead, it should be action. Not as much as magic.
I think the theme for each land should be:
-Percy Jackson and the olympians/ the Kane chronicles.
-nightmare before Christmas and epic Mickey
-tartan,Hercules, and mulan (I don't know why I just see them as a trio movie for some reason.
And the last thing will be the icon for this new theme park: a giant Mickey head in a giant pool of water. Underneath it, is the city of Atlantis. (People can't actually go into the city since it will be under water and if to many peep went in and broke it, there would be a massive death rate.) around the city of Atlantis will be a actual ride that goes through the water. It will be pretty short, but a animimatronic lobster beast (like the one in the movie) would swim freely in the tank guarding Atlantis. Inside the city would be a castle which holds a show like fantastic. The way people would get to Atlantis would be the same submarines from the movie. The show is only at night and only a few people a night will get to go see it. Youwould have to by separate tickets for it.
That's all I'm going to share for now but if you want to hear more, remember to check out "the next walt Disney contest" during the finale (if I make it that far XD)
Personally, I would love to see the existing parks expanded with more attractions instead of a new gate. There is a great deal that can be done within the existing parks to please everyone. I would really love to expand Pixar Place throughout the back area of the park, from Luigi's Garage all the way over to Narnia (yes, that really needs a new attraction there...lol!) The area with Indiana Jones and Star Tours could be an area for "Adventure based" movies. Why not bring over the awesome Indiana Jones ride from DL? Everyone raves about it, and it would give the park a "big ticket" ride aside from Star Wars on that side of the park. Of course, it's too bad that Rock n Rollercoaster and American Idol aren't closer together, because the theming would really work for a whole recording artist concept within Hollywood. Then there is Sunset Blvd which could be devoted to the Villains... and of course Hollywood Blvd/Great Movie Ride/Brown Derby area for old Hollywood and perhaps move the Muppets over near Animation Courtyard with The Little Mermaid and Playhouse Disney. I would move the Beauty and the Beast Show to Magic Kingdom in the newly revamped and expanded Fantasyland.
As for Animal Kingdom... the Unicorn/fantasy creature section is still a great possibility and would be an awesome draw and a place to perhaps put some of those long coveted thrill rides! Maybe a few more thrill ride/coaster types...some more attractions for the little ones dealing with dragons, unicorns and other mythical creatures... again... many many ideas! Oh, and adding the animals from the Austrailian Outback with all the theming of that marvelous continent would be fabulous! There is probably enough land, that if they wanted, they could build another Tokyo Sea right under the Animal Kingdom umbrella... the sea has living creatures, so why not?
Expanding Fantasyland is only the beginning... I have no problem with Fantasyland being primarily the domain for Princesses, pixies and silly ol bears... I think they need to add a tower swing type ride along the lines of swinging through the air on Rapunzels hair. Move the Beauty and Beast Show from Hollywood Studios over there. Of course Pixie Hollow should be completely magical and have some kinds of rides of it's own. When that is done, how about revamping part of Adventureland to include Tarzan, and a better attraction geared toward Aladdin... how about moving Peter Pan to Adventureland also? How about an attraction based on EpicMickey in Tomorrowland?
As for Epcot... how about a few new pavillions in the World Showcase? Maybe Spain, Russia (that could include a Russian Snow Mountain, perhaps?) A few more interactive attractions within the exisiting pavillions would be great... really there are enough Circle Vision movies...lol! Also, bring an attraction or 2 back to what was once the Wonders of Life! With all of the things going on in medical science now, it could somehow be incorporated into a great pavillion. I have always hated that The Making of Me and Body Wars were just dismissed when the sponsership went away.
Yes, there is plenty of land within Disney's property to build another gate, a few more shopping areas, some more resorts, etc, but some of it must be preserved for the wildlife that exists there. Just because there is a lot of land, doesn't mean it should be developed.
There is just too much that can be done to improve and expand on the existing parks to entertain opening a 5th gate at this time..... and especially considering the current recession. Expand and celebrate what is there before starting something brand new.
I agree about just working on fixing the current parks for now. However, a lot of good ideas have been tossed around. I still like the Disney's America idea for Florida, I'm sure if Disney rose up to the challenge of making an authentic historical theme park that they could do it. The village areas of AK (Harambe and around Everest) show how Disney can model buildings after, we'll just say places that don't have any fancy castles, and make them into an interesting family attraction. I remember sitting in Yak&Yeti thinking how impressive it was that Disney even went to the finest detail to paint dirt and food splatters on the walls and hanging pictures. Anyway, I feel like Disney would try to make a new historical as authentic as possible. My second choice would be a DisneySea park for Florida. The heroes and villains mainly thrill idea also seems possible, as long as it wasn't too scary. The idea of a night park could also be combined with this.
A big part of Disney is nostalgia. I've been thinking lately about how Disney could create nostalgia for the new generation of young adults, kids of the 80's and 90's. Perhaps some kind of an area in DHS? I know Pop Century has sort of a decade theme, but I think the studios could be a good park to icorporate a little more of that in to.
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