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Six Flags Magic Mountain: Six Flags are known at their parks for no scenery and atmosphere. But they also tolerate bad behavior. what can they do to change their image???

From Justin Spisto
Posted December 24, 2007 at 11:18 AM
Six Flags are known at their parks for no scenery and atmosphere. But they also tolerate bad behavior. They also tolerate bad behavior such as gangbangers and line jumpers. what can they do to change their image???

From melissa radz
Posted December 24, 2007 at 11:49 AM
I have been to Great Adventure/Six Flags, are they the same thing??? I am talking about the one in Jackson, NJ

From Danny Melillo
Posted December 24, 2007 at 12:22 PM
I have been to great adventure, new england, and amercia and new england has the least bad behavior, great adventure gets pretty bad because you get a lot of teenagers from philadelphia/nyc showing off to their girllfreind thinking they're cool by cutting in line and messing with everybody. Out of those three parks great adventure definitely attracts far worse crowds (behavior wise). America wasn't to bad but new england was pretty good(again, behavior wise).

From rafael g
Posted December 24, 2007 at 8:34 PM
i have been to SFMM many times, it is not bad. people exaggerate the truth. it is not full of gangsters, and the workers respond how you treat them. treat them cool, like saying how are you, then they are cool. if you are a jerk to them, then hey are a jerk back to you. i have been to SFMM many times and i always have a great time. my visits have been in the last 3-4 years, so if things were different before, then sorry.

From Bruce Lane
Posted December 24, 2007 at 9:33 PM
"What can they do to change their image?"

They need work on a LOT more than their image, and I've already made my feelings clear about Sick Flags (at least the Vallejo park) in other posts.

However, in response to this one, I would say that the best thing they can possibly do to "recover" is to get bought out by a company that knows how to run theme parks.

Keep the peace(es).

From Justin Spisto
Posted December 25, 2007 at 9:08 AM
I think SFGAv is by far the best of the Six Flags. At least it has the best rides. The other Six flags, like SFMM are disquesting. They need someone to take control of their parks.

From Ben James
Posted December 25, 2007 at 2:51 PM
There are several things they need to do.

1) Show the employees that you appreciate them. Quite paying minimum wage for the very people who are responsible for guest safety.

2) Go back to the distinct sections of the park.. Right now, they are trying to hard to include too much. You can have a good park with distinct themeing. The same attractions can fit in Larger distinct areas. Six Flags was named over six distinct heritage reasons. They have completely lost this aspect. It used to be that the park had six sections one representing each part of Texas's history.

3) Retrain management, then retrain the staff. It seems that the concept of cutomer service has become lost on staff of any six flags park. They constantly train new staff on "customer service" but, the management never follows through.

4) Bring back quality shows. The parks lack quality shows to keep guests interested. It is incredibly sad that @ SFSTL the palace theatre (largest theatre) is "lucky" if they fill it at least 1/4 full. The shows are no longer original and often feel recycled.

4.5) Bring back quality "streetmosphere". If you walk through the parks there is nothing to entertain you. It is only lucky that during "Fright Fest" you get some half-a$$ actors to scare you at night.

5) The concept of parades is lost on this company. This is one place where they can take note from Disney. A group of 30 people walking in a clump with 2 or 3 ATV's and a boom box does not make a parade.

6) MAINTENENCE: You can really see how much the property is showing it's age. Often the parking lots are in dis-repair, the grass is unkept, and un-used rides are not removed.
At SFSTL the old "Hucks Hannibarrels" is still there they just put of a backdrop to hide it, but you can see it from the coasters and ferris wheel. But the "Tom's twister" ride that was getting people to ride it, was removed to install a new childrens area.

Okay, I know that is alot, but I am sure I will add more later. Til then, I hope you digest what I have written and respond back.

From Justin Spisto
Posted December 26, 2007 at 12:05 PM
Ben i totally agree with you. They definatly need to retrain their employees and management. Sux Flags..oops i mean Six flags needs to refocus their parks on quality not quantity of rides. Also some parks have too many rides packed into one area, then some parks have no rides at all. This is beacause Six Flags only concetrates on their big parks.

From Greg Bark
Posted December 27, 2007 at 6:51 PM
I have never been to a Six Flags, but from the looks of things, I got two words: STRONGER THEMING!

From Mark Walker
Posted December 28, 2007 at 8:58 AM
I hear that they build far too many coasters in Magic Mountain. Maybe making it a bit more family friendly would do the trick.

Oh, and I like the title Justin.

From Justin Spisto
Posted December 28, 2007 at 11:01 AM
Thanks Mark lol. It gets the point across.

From Anthony Murphy
Posted December 29, 2007 at 8:54 AM
Yeah, making it kid friendly! SFGA, my home park, did that (Wiggles World) and took a bare area and made it a crowded area. More kids came too. Also, taking from the SFGA, offer a ton of discounts!

Also, and this might be just my SF park, but the guests/patrons sometimes are...whats the word...trashy. I never see these kinds of people at WDW or UO, but maybe because I am sucked into the magic. Not everybody, but some!

From Justin Spisto
Posted January 2, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Oh trust Anthony Six Flags Parks gets the most trashy people around. But you can't blame the Six Flags Management for that.

Posted January 4, 2008 at 4:58 PM
In response to Ben James' comments, I believe SFSTL has come a long way in the last few years. My family loves to see the super heroes, and they are a great addition for the "family friendly" atmosphere. Every time we are at SFSTL, we see all age ranges getting pictures with the Justice League, from the very young to the very old, and I think it's neat. I've seen pics online of super heroes at the other parks, and this past season the super heroes at SFSTL were the best looking - by far. I wish they had a better super hero staging area, or they would roam around the park, instead of being stuck in a couple areas. Why don't they drive their ATVs around during the day, like at the other parks?? You are correct thought Ben, when you said the shows basically suck, which they truly do. The Palace Theatre (the largest on property) should be filling the house. The country show they had this past season was horrible! The set was nice, but that's it. The singers were bad, maybe one singer was decent, but the dancing was bad, and the entire show was just bad, very boring. I like the concept; however, like most things, it could have been developed much further. I hope they do not bring it back this coming season! The show at Miss Kitty's theatre this past season was the worst that I have ever seen! It's time for that theatre to get a make-over, or take it out entirely. The 50's group was fun to watch, although I cannot remember their name. The parade, what can I say about that, you are once again correct stating that a couple ATVs, some walking characters, and poor quality speakers on the antique cars do not make it a parade! Where are the floats? What is a parade with out floats? Only a few of the parades I saw included the ATVs - what's the decision to use them or not to use them, are they sitting in storage, or in the repair shop?? I've heard the other larger parks have decent floats and such, but I suppose their budget is bigger. The parade has potential, but, sadly, I cannot imagine any Six Flags parade ever being on the same scale as a Disney parade. I'm anxious to see what 2008 brings, I hope the super heroes return, as well as most of those actors from last season. We are looking forward to ride the new Evel Knevel (spelling?) coaster. SFSTL has received many new additions in the last few years, Superman Tower of Power, Bugs Bunny National Park, Tony Hawks Big Spin, Johnny Rocket's, and now the EK coaster, and this is all good!! I think the corporate group now looks favorably upon SFSTL, and knows it has great potential.

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