So What Does Islands of Adventure Need?

Universal Orlando's Islands of Adventure may have won the site's award for top park of the year, but it is far from perfect. What can Universal's new owner (whomever it is) do to improve this park?

From Kevin Baxter
Posted August 7, 2002 at 8:20 PM
The biggest complaint about this site's number one park is that there isn't enough to do if you don't ride everything more than once. This is a very valid argument. Islands of Adventure opened at about 3/4 the size of a complete park and the addition of two middling attractions the following year didn't increase that number by much. So I want to know how many attractions this park needs and what types. Keep in mind that all rides can't be coasters or Spidey-level rides. A good mix is very important to IOA's surging popularity.

Personally, I think IOA needs four GOOD attractions to fill out its repertoire. At least that is what is needed right now if nothing else gets removed or replaced. The way I see it, they need two more coasters, another family dark ride and a Spidey-level ride. BUT that doesn't coincide with the list of what I think the park SHOULD build, which is:

A Grinch coaster
A Lorax dark ride
A permanent Seuss Landing show
A Jurassic Park coaster
A Jurassic Park state-of-the-art attraction
A Rocky the Flying Squirrel coaster

I don't think IOA should focus too much on coasters, since Universal will probably build two more parks down the road. Four per park (plus one in USF) would give Universal a whopping 13 coasters. That would suffice. But my list gives IOA five coasters (not counting Robert's beloved Flying Unibore!) which I reconciled by saying that MY list gives each land its own coaster. I think all five coasters would be unique enough to add to each land's experience and would spread out the coaster-lovers.

This mostly outdoor park also needs another dark ride badly and nothing would work better than Dr Seuss's "The Lorax." A Mount Crumpit coaster would also be partly inside and would be more family-oriented than the other biggies, both of which make this ride a MUST-BUILD.

To make room for the Rocky coaster, the Pandemonium Circus would have to be demolished. That's sad but they can never think of anything to put in there anyhow. The park needs shows, so transferring a theater to Seuss Landing, where there is a wealth of material, would be a smart move.

This makes Seuss Landing kind of crowded, but all they would need would be a little bit of USF's land and they could do it all.

Since my list is two attractions too long, I consider dumping the Pandemonium theater as a move that makes it only one attraction long. The Triceratops Discovery Trail is the next obvious candidate to go.

Then all they would need would be little improvements like putting walls around StormForce, extending the length of the Pteranodon track and getting Sylvester McMonkey McBean running finally.

By the way, many of these rumors and proposals are over here.

What does IOA need, WITHIN REASON, to become complete?

From Drunk Scott
Posted August 8, 2002 at 7:31 AM
Obviously, they need to desperately get something else going on in Seuss Landing. I'd be happy if Sylvester McMonkey McBean was working (as I'm really curious to see The Sneetches story brought out in all those little rooms). I don't know what they're thinking, but they need to can the whole idea of cars being able to go at their own speed and bump into each other. It'd just be a nightmare. It should operate like the (gasp) Tomorrowland Transit Authority. It could be a fun, yet relaxing ride, and there's not much better of a lesson than The Sneetches. There are a ton of underappreciated Seuss stories, but I know they'd rather stick with the more popular ones. Another indoor disorienting ride would be great (possibly The Lorax). Something that really messed with your senses and perceptions and altered speeds and such. Seuss is all about irregularity (and I'm not talking Metamucil).

I think the ideas of canning the Theatre and the Triceratops walk-through seem like a good idea (though the theatre destruction could provide much more ample room for an upper-budget attraction). IOA needs places for people to go when it's raining. If you live in Florida, you know it rains every afternoon during the summer. People need options. I think all there is now is Spidey, Poseidon, Sinbad, and Cat In The Hat. Anything else and you're going to get wet. It's tough to cram an entire park's attendance into four attractions (especially when one takes long breaks before each show).

While another coaster would be great, I think the next one might need to be indoors. Don't forget that rain makes outdoor roller coasters a bit less fun, but lightning totally shuts them down.

I'm not too worried. Universal has been making some great decisions lately. I've said many bad things about USF, but I know they're coming around. Both parks have a huge palette to work from. It must be a great feeling to know that Mickey is soiling his drawers knowing that Universal is right on his tail.

From Anonymous
Posted August 8, 2002 at 9:23 AM
I think universe should concentrate on all indoor rides and shows. There is to much stuff that cant be done when its raining, lightning, or cold and if you dont like rollercoasters(besides me thats my family). Plus theirs more than enough outside rollercoasters an another huge one that sticks out will ruin the skyline. Remember IOA is not six flags and it should look like a themepark not a rollercoaster park. I think they need to put in an attraction kind of like poseidons fury but better. They need soething that is long, indoors, and technology advance. I also think they need to do something with bulwinkle thats not a coaster. Remember the bulwinkle fans are older and a flying rollercoasters might not be their thing. I believe a very fun, fun dark ride, should be in toonlagoon for bullwinkle. I think the jeep safari will be great and if a coaster is well themed and doesnt just stick out of jurrasic park, it should be in place. Also, i think a proper drop tower on the lvl of TOT could be nice in either park. I think doctor doom should be teared down, its just ugly and suxs.Last, i believe a night show, more live entertainment, and a few little other things should be added to prolong the day.

From Anonymous
Posted August 8, 2002 at 12:38 PM
YES! They need a lorax ride! The Lorax is one of my favorite Dr Suess stories, but sitting at the current Lorax attration and trying to listen to those little speakers makes you feel like a buffoon :) The Lorax needs the Cat in the Hat treatment.

From Tim Hillman
Posted August 9, 2002 at 6:08 AM
Kevin, I agree with most of your thoughts. As you know, I feel that IOA needs more indoor rides for the days when the weather is lousy. So, here's my take:

SEUSS LANDING
1. Mt Crumpit/Grinch Coaster
2. Lorax dark ride
3. Sylvester Monkey McBean rehab

Seuss Landing needs a feature attraction on the E-ticket level and the Grinch Coaster should do the trick. SL also needs another mid-level indoor attraction like the Cat-In-The-Hat. The story of the Lorax is as good as any. As far as SMMcB goes, Universal needs to do something. Fix it or tear it down and put something working in its place.

LOST CONTINENT
1. Rehab Poseidons Fury

The original PF show was so-so. The new show is worse. IMO a rehab should improve the attraction, so Universal needs to go back to the drawing board on this attraction.

JURRASIC PARK
1. JP Jeep Adventure
2. JP Flying Coaster
3. Pteranodon Flyers rehab
4. Replace Triceratops Encounter with a dark ride/show.

Jurrasic Park is a wasted opportunity. There's so much opportunity to put in great attractions here and Universal just hasn't done it. The River Adventure is good, but after that, there's not a lot else for the adults. First of all, put in an attraction on the level of Spiderman and theme it along the lines of the Jeep Ride in the first JP movie. Can you imagine feeling what it would be like to have a T-Rex chasing your vehicle? Awesome! The flying coaster should go in JP and not in Toon Lagoon. Theme it around the Pteranodons in JP3. Yes, I know they already have the Pteranodon Flyers, but most of us will never get to ride it due to queue time and height restrictions. Speaking of the Pteranodon Flyers - add length to the existing track and add more tracks so more people can get on the ride. Finally, replace Triceratops Encounter with a mid-level dark ride or show. Or put the flying coaster where Triceratops Encounter is now and move the Triceratops to the River Adventure queue.

TOON LAGOON
1. Replace Pandemonium Theater with a Rocky and Bullwinkle dark ride.

Toon Lagoon already has 2 major outdoor attraction that get you totally hosed. TL needs something that can be done indoors. I'm partial to a mid-level Rocky and Bullwinkle ride.

MARVEL SUPER HERO ISLAND
1. Enclose Storm Force Acceleratron.

Marvel Super Hero Island is pretty doggone good right now. The major weak point is Storm Force. That can be fixed by adding some better theming to the ride by enclosing it.

From Mark Fairleigh
Posted August 9, 2002 at 2:23 PM
I've never been a big fan of the Jurassic Park area, so I'd say concentrate in that area first. Get rid of the Triceratop Trail which is a total waste of space. I think a good dark ride in the vein of Spidey would be nice.

Also, I think it would be rather cool, if Universal actually turned the "Islands" into islands by placing water around the perimeter of the park. The biggest disappointment I had was finding out the islands were just your typical areas segmented by themeing and a couple of bridges with a big pond in the middle.

From Kevin Baxter
Posted August 10, 2002 at 3:05 AM
Well, the park is partly surrounded by water. The river in front ends almost at Toon Lagoon, and after they build the hotels it will end near Jurassic Park. Personally, they feel Islandy enough. And Peninsulas of Adventure is just lame! LOL!

BTW, good ideas, Tim. Rocky and Bullwinkle were originally supposed to go into a dark ride there. I wouldn't mind that, but I still kind of like my one-coaster-per-Island idea. But your ideas do fit in with my thoughts that IOA should only build about 4 coasters. The theming is just too good there to ruin with too many tracks.

From Bone head
Posted September 5, 2002 at 2:25 PM
I think Islands of Adventure needs a Jurrasic Park Coaster.
Possibly a Flying coaster between Dudly-Do-Right and the Jurrasic Park Building.
Or they could tear down the discovery trail and put it there around the Pterodon Flyers. I haven't been to the Discovery Trail, but I heard it was bad.

IOA also could possibly use a show at Marvel Super Hero Island(only if they desperatly
need another attraction because Super Hero Island is pretty good).

The Lost Continent could use a 3-D dragon motion simulator (you know, an Ice and Fire dragon fight). Otherwise they would nearly be perfect.
(No park can be perfect).

From Nathan Ellstrand
Posted September 5, 2002 at 4:57 PM
I personally think it needs nothing. It's one of the highest rated parks among visitors and enthusiasts, and it has some of the best rides on the planet. If they did install something, it would be nice to see the Sylvester McMonkey McBean attraction come to life.

From mark redfar
Posted September 7, 2002 at 3:38 AM
one thing american parks don't have as much as british parks is pure thrill rides like huss top spins. I think a ride like tomb raider at that paramount park would do islands of adventures wonders. It could be placed in almost any area of the park, but best suited would be either marvel super hero island or lost continant.

From Kevin Baxter
Posted September 7, 2002 at 5:41 PM
NO WAY! Those things are ALL OVER American parks. They just aren't in true THEME PARKS. And they don't need to be. I love them, but they simply would not work at an inventive park like IOA. Or any other Universal or Disney park for that matter. I wouldn't cry if Busch Gardens got one though. Or better yet, a Giant Frisbee!

From Ronald Schettino
Posted September 8, 2002 at 2:28 PM
Addition of these five attractions:

a) TOON LAGOON ... I love the idea of a "Rocky the Flying Squirrel" ride. However, what do we do with Bullwinkle? Since Bullwinkle couldn't fly very well (he seemed to always be trying), split the ride in two. Bullwinkle a lazy man's (or, fraidy cat's) suspended coaster which meanders, while Rocky (a true flying coaster) could loop over and under Bullwinkle. A ride the whole family can enjoy together.

b) MARVEL ISLAND ... "The Fantastic Four." Yes, FOUR interlocking coasters. Or, if that is too much of a design nightmare, a dark ride on the lines of Spidy, only you choose the character you want to 'fight' in. Guests can even fight against each other, just like in the real comic.

c) JURASSIC PARK ... Turn Pteranodon flyers into a true flying coaster. None of that namby-pamby stuff (unless, once again like my Bullwinkle and Rocky idea, have the ride designed with two different tracks; one the existing track and the new one could 'weave' about).

d) LOST CONTINENT ... Get really lost in a dark ride/maze!!! Developing technology would be on line for the creation of this 'bumper car' type of maze ride. Get yourself lost in the halls of an underground temple. Guests who find their way out alive receive a free souvenir.

e) SEUSS LANDING ... Yes! Yes! Yes! Mount Crumpet! Roller coaster! Grinch! Not much else can be said.

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