Cedar Point New Ride Name

Cedar Point: Whyte Lightning?

From Melissa Kosztowny
Posted August 26, 2009 at 1:48 PM
Cedar point has announced the name for the new attraction. Its called Whyte Lightning. However, they have not said what kind of attraction, only that it is not gci, B&M or Logo. Any ideas?

Here is the link to the sortof announcement.


From Eli Katzman
Posted August 26, 2009 at 1:54 PM
It said it's not GCI or togo. It never said it's not B&M...

From Dan M
Posted August 26, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Yeah they did say it wasn't B&M a week or two ago.

From Melissa Kosztowny
Posted August 26, 2009 at 7:38 PM
just today on facebook and twitter they anounced it wasnt going to be...

"is not building an S&S, a B&M, a Grav. Group, a Mack, or a Gerstlauer."

From Erin B
Posted August 26, 2009 at 9:35 PM
I'm part of a Cedar Point forum and everyone is going berserk over these clues. I honestly have no idea what to expect. There was an exclusive ride time night for Platinum Pass holders on Thursday and apparently more clues were given out there by Tony [I believe he does PR work for the park]. I didn't hear it myself, but apparently he stated that the ride would be a family attraction and would not get you wet. Now, for all we know he was messing with all of us.

Keep an eye out on Labor Day -- we should be getting an announcement then. Until then, everyone will be scratching their heads and getting all in a tizzy over these little teasers.

I will say this -- if we end up with a third CF ride themed after NASCAR and colored red, I'll scream. CF needs to learn how to use some other colors. And two Intimidator coasters in one year? That are both red? Really? REALLY?

From Eli Katzman
Posted August 27, 2009 at 2:10 PM
A beast (teen slang for awesome) color scheme would definitely have to be sky blue and black for this. I'm looking at an intamin ride, because they haven't said it WASN'T intamin... think about it

From Audra Distler
Posted August 27, 2009 at 2:19 PM
But if Tony said family ride (again, could be just kidding us), is Intamin really into making a family ride? I'll admit, I thought that too, since they haven't ruled Intamin out yet. But I guess we wait a few weeks to find out :)

From steve lee
Posted August 27, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Hey, for a long time Cedar Point claimed Maverick was going to be a great family coaster...

From Derek Potter
Posted August 27, 2009 at 6:25 PM
A family ride could be anything according to Cedar Point. I don't know why I have wooden coaster on the brain, but I do. It's just been a while since they've built one I guess.

People are going nuts on the fansites...some of course are either prone to going nuts or already are nuts, but one conclusion can be drawn for certain. Nobody knows how to tease their rides and the fans like Cedar Point.

From Steve Pint
Posted August 27, 2009 at 7:48 PM
Cedar Point already has 5 Intamins don't they? GCI would have been such a better choice I think.

This thing better be spectacular, at this point, (Since it'll likely be Intamin as they say) I'm wishing for a nice pre fabricated woodie like El Toro.

Derek, I completely agree..

From Eli Katzman
Posted August 28, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Audra, just like Steve said, CP has hired intamin for 5 coasters! And probably some other rides, too, but I don't know. They made TTD, MF, WT, DT, and jr. gemini. (Maverick doesn't really count, because the site claims it as being made by Intaride... can anyone shed some light on that? But, rcdb says it was made by Intamin... huh...) DT and jr. gemini are both family rides, so basically anything is possible, I guess.

Yeah, steve, they really only have 2 wooden coasters out of 17! An amazing intamin woodie would be the best choice at this point.

From Erin B
Posted August 28, 2009 at 7:15 PM
Intaride may be a division or branch of Intamin. I recall hearing something about it but I don't quite remember any details. Everyone counts it as an Intamin ride, though.

From Steve Pint
Posted August 28, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Tons of people are speculating now that it'll be a log flume ride to make up for the loss of White Water Landing, because of the similar names between the two, and that it would fit what they've been hinting "Refreshing" could refer to a wet ride.

What's everybody else's thoughts on this? I wouldn't believe my eyes if they didn't get a new coaster but I guess anythings possible, I would figure they'd like to give CP a new coaster just to keep ahead of Magic Mountain since they've already confirmed a new coaster for next year.

From Derek Potter
Posted August 28, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Intaride is an American subsidiary of Intamin, which is based in Switzerland. So the official answer is yes...they are the same company.

The three companies most likely to be involved with Cedar Point's new project are Intamin, GCI, or B&M. All you have to do is look at the company's recent projects. They've had an ongoing relationship with B&M and Intamin (several projects the past few years, with more set to go up for next year) GCI has built two coasters in two years and has reportedly done consulting for Kings Island and Cedar Point in that period of time as well. They obviously have contracts with these companies that aren't up yet, which puts these companies at the top of the list. There could be another I guess, but I'm still thinking it's one of those three. If it is Intamin, it could be the aquatrax or the ball coaster, or it could be one of the prefabbed wooden coasters. When I hear Whyte Lightning, I think of White Cyclone.

From Erin B
Posted August 28, 2009 at 8:54 PM
CP already confirmed that neither GCI nor B&M will be involved with the new ride. Chances are it will be Intamin.
As stated above, word is that the ride will be a flume of sorts. More specifically, it's being referred to as a coaster/flume hybrid, but NOT an Aquatrax [that's already been ruled out by CP, as well].

Apparently this description of the new attraction briefly showed up on a Wikipedia page [I have no idea WHICH Wikipedia page, though] --
Merging the experience in Flumes and Spillwaters with the experience in Roller Coaster technology, Whyte Lightning combines the best of both rides. The Reversing Boat Ride is a new concept incorporating the airtime thrill of a coaster with those of a water ride. Using a new design of boat seating 8 passengers that can go either forwards or backwards, the ride is designed to give guests the familiar and exciting sensation of a typical wooden roller coaster as the vehicles go over the ups and downs in the hills and valleys before a flume-type splashdown.

The ride's tagline "Lightning Strikes TwYce" represents the ride's final drop, which is preceeded by a turntable that sends the boats down one of two hills, either forward or backward. The top of the hill splits off into a Y shape.

The ride's entrance is located along Cedar Point's Frontier Trail, with the majority of the ride track housed on Milennium Island.

When finished, Whyte Lightning will be the first reversing boat ride in the world, making it the world's tallest, fastest and steepest.

The addition of Whyte Lightning will boost Cedar Point's number of roller coasters to 18, the most in the world.


Physical Dimensions

* Angle of lift hill: 30 degrees
* Angle of first drop: 65 degrees
* First hill height: 120 ft
* Flume drop height: 85 ft
* Angle of flume: 62 degrees

Obviously this has to be taken with a grain of salt since it was on Wikipedia, but at the same time this could very well be the ride for 2010. Photos and information on Maverick leaked shortly before being released and they quickly disappeared from the internet, as well. But who knows? This could be the real deal or just an instance of someone screwing with all of the internet fanboys who are all in a tizzy over things already.

From Sarah Meeks
Posted August 28, 2009 at 10:42 PM
I want to ride it! Does it go upside down? How fast is it?????

From James Rao
Posted August 29, 2009 at 4:04 AM
If true, I say that brings the coaster tally up to 17 1/2. You only get partial credit for a water coaster. ;)

BTW, if you want to see an excellent looking water coaster, check out the one they are adding to Holiday World next season: Official Wildebeest Site. Sweet!

From Jeff M
Posted August 29, 2009 at 5:10 AM
I'm guessing here, but I believe the new attraction will be something like the Journey to Atlantis ride at Sea World Orlando only in the new Aqua Trax design. Think of a ride simular to what is on the Intamin AG website under Aqua Trax decription.
A nice themed attraction like that on the "island" and out about over the water? Now that sounds nice to me!

From Melissa Kosztowny
Posted August 29, 2009 at 7:00 AM
In a cedar point blog they also have said, "You will not get wet." That kindof rules out any type of ride that involves water...

From Audra Distler
Posted August 29, 2009 at 10:02 AM
Jeff, they already mentioned it won't be an Aquatrax ride, too. And rumor has it that it was mentioned you won't get wet on the ride, but that could be a ploy to throw everyone off!

From Brandon S
Posted August 29, 2009 at 10:36 AM
^^That was not in a blog, that was at a Platinum Pass Holder Ride Night.

From Melissa Kosztowny
Posted August 29, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Oh, right... i knew i heard it somewhere. But im glad its not a water ride. Plus, they have had way too much hype for it to only be a water or small ride, it has to be big.

From Derek Potter
Posted August 29, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Where does the park say it won't be a GCI? I saw the comment on Facebook about B&M. Also saw Mack, Gravity Group, S&S, and Gerstlauer. Am I missing where it rules out GCI?

From Steve Pint
Posted August 29, 2009 at 1:27 PM
They mentioned it on their blog Derek.

From Derek Potter
Posted August 29, 2009 at 1:58 PM
I retract my question...I don't believe they've ever gone wrong with Intamin. Come on wooden coaster...two tracks?

From Steve Pint
Posted August 29, 2009 at 8:47 PM
By saying that Derek are you implying a dueling woody?
Intamin Pre-Fabricated dueling woody, now THAT'S fancy! I didn't think they had enough space for something like that back there though, unless they remove the Cedar Creek Mine ride.

From Derek Potter
Posted August 30, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Well, if lightning was going to strike twice...two tracks would make sense.

It's fun to throw gas on this fire.

From Randy Clover
Posted August 31, 2009 at 8:25 AM
Just a guess here, but I think it will be a wooden coaster, replacing Mean Streak... Lightning striking twice in the same spot? Both would have lightning in the logo. Again, just a guess.

Edit: OK, maybe this is wishful thinking. It's just after riding Mean Streak the last time I went to CP, I had to leave because it was too painful. That was on my third time of giving it a second chance. Now, I am done with Mean Streak. Considering how busy it was that day and that there was no wait on Mean Streak, I think its time for it to go... or it better get some TLC ASAP, or people, like me, will not give it another chance.

From Erin B
Posted September 1, 2009 at 7:58 AM
Randy, a majority of people who have ridden Mean Streak before have already given up on it, myself included. As I've stated before, I get that a woodie gives a completely different ride than a steel coaster, but when you leave the ride barely able to walk...there's a problem. Unfortunately, the ride will likely stay as is until repairs become too expensive or unmanagable. The ride was retracked this past year and that hasn't done a thing, honestly.

As for the new ride, Facebook says it'll all be revealed September 3rd at 9:10 [AM? PM?].

From Melissa Kosztowny
Posted September 1, 2009 at 7:55 PM
I agree, mean streak hurts too much to be enjoyable for me.

any only 2 more days to we get to know the new ride!

and cp said you wont get wet, so I'm gonna say it is probably not an aquatrax.

From Brandon S
Posted September 1, 2009 at 8:33 PM
I don't think you actually get wet on an aquatrax. I think it just takes you real close to the water. Anyways, they already ruled it out so that's not even a possibility.

From Steve Pint
Posted September 2, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Well the announcement is tomorrow... Any last guesses?

From Eli Katzman
Posted September 2, 2009 at 3:17 PM
will the announce on the home site? Well, if they don't someone please find the link and post it here! :D

From Charles Reichley
Posted September 2, 2009 at 3:56 PM
I've ridden Mean Streak each year for the past 3 years, and while it could be rough, and I am sensitive about my back, I've not found it too bad.

But this year, even though we sat in the front car, which is usually the least rough, it was, well, not "unbearable", but completely unenjoyable. And the people sitting on the front said the same thing.

I don't see the point of riding a ride that doesn't provide any enjoyment. Mean Streak USED to provide enjoyment at the price of some pain, which was fine. But now it's just painful. There's no line there ever that I can tell, because nobody would be stupid enough to ride it more than once; I'm surprised the didn't put a wheelchair rental shop next to it.

From Steve Pint
Posted September 2, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Everything will be on www.whytelightning.com tomorrow morning Eli, or so I've heard.

From Brandon S
Posted September 2, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Yea, the places they most likely will post it is


www.cedarpoint.com (could be on the OnPoint! blog)


or Cedar Point's facebook.

From Dan M
Posted September 2, 2009 at 8:28 PM
I'm betting on a Pirates of the Caribbean type boat ride. Don't know why. Gut Feeling. It certainly seems from what they've said so far that it will have some kind of theme, but then again so does TTD. Less than 12 hours till we know though.

From Erin B
Posted September 3, 2009 at 6:22 AM
Shoot the Rapids --

The feudin's been goin' on fer decades. Now, climb aboard and immerse yourself in one of the wildest water expeditions this side of the Appalachians!

You'll board your boat inside the Crystal Rock Bottling Company and travel through rivers, around an illegal moonshine still and encounter some wild feudin' and fightin'. We still have no clue what they're fightin' over (it could be Whyte Lightnin'), but yer sure to be a part of it!

The Shoot the Rapids adventure features two unique lift hills that drop you into roaring river rapids. You'll even encounter some surprises along the journey!

Use the links on the left to explore all the details about the ride. You'll find interviews, computer animation, construction photos and facts about Shoot the Rapids. A webcam, available for viewing the entire construction site, will be installed shortly after Labor Day.

Shoot the Rapids is scheduled to welcome riders on Opening Day, 2010!

I think this should be a nice, fun, family attraction for the park. My only concern is CP's history with theming, but hopefully they'll follow through on this and make it impressive [by their standards].
I know a lot of the CP fanboys are disappointed with the addition, but I'm pleased with it. I missed having a flume ride at the park and this adds something that my whole family can enjoy if we all return to the park together [as opposed the the usual of my sister and I hitting up the coasters, occassionally joined by my dad, and my mom sitting it all out].

From Derek Potter
Posted September 3, 2009 at 6:36 AM
Family friendly is good. I hope they go bigger on the scenery and theming then the renderings show. A well themed, story based ride would be a nice change of pace for the park. If they don't theme or at least decorate this ride, they will have pretty much recreated White Water Landing.

From Melissa Kosztowny
Posted September 3, 2009 at 7:23 AM
I dont like it for a couple of reasons. The first being the theme is fighting over moon shine, not very kid friendly theme. Also, its just a combination of the two water rides they have already, (Maybe they are building this to replace one???) also, i would like a water ride where you just get drizzled on, like the flume ride. not one you get soaked on, like this is most likely going to be. overall, i am disappointed.

And i add the cedar point goes back on the you will not get wet part. My mistake for taking their updates seriously

From Steve Pint
Posted September 3, 2009 at 9:27 AM
Well, Shoot the Rapids, the new CP ride, I'm very disappointed.
With all his hype I was sure it'd be an Intamin coaster, but just a replacement for their old White Water Landing. (Accidentally called it Snake River Falls!)

The water ride looks lame anyway to be honest, not up to the CP standard... But either way, I hope it takes some of the crowds away from the better attractions next year when I go.

From Erin B
Posted September 3, 2009 at 7:51 AM
Melissa - The comment about not getting wet came from the Maverick exclusive ride night for Platinum Pass holders. That same night, Tony also suggested that Dragster could be seeing some track added on in the coming year. He was messing with everyone in the station & people really shouldn't have taken those comments from him seriously. That comment spread by word of mouth and wasn't on Twitter or Facebook [at least from what I recall].

As for those who follow the park, it was pretty obvious that we'd be seeing a flume of some sort, whether it be next year or the year after. After the removal of White Water Landing it was said, flat-out, that CP would be replacing the ride with a new flume in the future. I'm not saying this is "common knowledge" by any means, but I'm just throwing that out there.

While I would have preferred to see a coaster, I'm excited to see what they do with this ride. Also, I'm hoping the renderings are a bit off in the soaking department because we already have two water rides that get you plenty wet. We need something that only gives a little splash, something along the lines of, oh, the old Shoot the Rapids, Mill Race, or White Water Landing.

From Melissa Kosztowny
Posted September 3, 2009 at 8:09 AM
I didnt realize that. Thanks for the update.

I agree, i hope the splash level is less then what they show in the video. On cedar points website, they interviewed all the head guys about the ride, and they said it was something even grandma and grandpa could enjoy, and i dont think they want to get too wet, so i'll have hope.

From James Rao
Posted September 3, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Derek and others have nailed it: without the proper theming this ride looks like a big *choke*. Shoot-the-chute rides are pretty passé these days, and only JURASSIC PARK at Universal has really transcended the genre. Despite the fact that I am totally in favor of more whole-family attractions at Cedar Point, I have to admit that I am very disappointed in this announcement. However, I will hold out hope that the final product will surprise me.

From Corbin Sanders
Posted September 6, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Hmmm, interesting, I was there that ride night for passholders for maverick. I didnt hear anything of the such.

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