Cedar Point's upcoming coaster?
Will there be any?
Why won't CP extend their record to 18? or not 20? They should buy some land or add some sand landscaping in the sea. The park has like 70 rides! Why not demolish some?
From James Rao
Posted February 5, 2010 at 4:16 AM
It appears CP mgmt is quite content to share the "King of Coasters" record with Magic Mountain who is building #17 as I type.
Waitaminute....are you saying you are not happy with CP's decision to build a modified shoot-the-chutes water attraction for this season?
FWIW, the parent company seems to be more focused on expanding Kings Dominion and selling itself to the (hmmmm) lowest bidder than on expanding the Point's coaster lineup. =(
I wouldn't write off Cedar Point and their coaster building ways just yet. Dick Kinzel is still the head of the company. The fact is that Cedar Point has carved itself an empire in the North and no longer needs to build coasters every year. I look for them to diversify in the future, but I'm sure a coaster is in the works.
It's wise for them to invest in the other parks such as Kings Dominion and Carowinds. The population is pretty dense in that area of the country. Might as well go to war with Busch Gardens and Six Flags for the people.
BTW, the sale of Cedar Fair is far from complete.
From Erin B
Posted February 5, 2010 at 10:36 AM
Cedar Point is still the flagship park, but I think right now Cedar Fair is focusing on building up the other parks under their ownership. Additionally, I believe they're trying to put the focus back on families at CP because that's what is going to bring in the money. Sure, people love to come for the coasters & it's a huge draw, but families are going to spend much more money than some enthusiasts who are running from coaster to coaster and are then done for the day.
I'm all about the coasters & I of course want to see more added to my home park but I completely understand why this may not happen for a couple years.
Looking at a Cedar Point map.. they have no real estate to build anything new. The only thing they could really do is knock down Mean Streak and build something new.
What they need to do is focus on what they lack, and thats themed rides.
I agree with Ryan. If you haven't been to CP or looked at the map of the park, do so. Cedar Point is located on a very large, very long penninsula jutting into Lake Erie, which limits how big it can get. While I think that much of the land area could be better utilized with a long-range plan for reorganizing the park, I don't forsee mgmt. doing this, but instead just tearing down underperforming attractions and reusing the site for new ones.
From James Rao
Posted February 6, 2010 at 7:46 AM
I agree with James, Ryan, and Erin. A) there's not much room left (unless they can build on water), B) replacing under-performing rides instead of adding new ones will be the norm, and C) Cedar Fair might be trying to make a few more whole-family attractions.
Put them together and what have you got? Probably going to see some venerable coasters like Disaster Transport, Mean Streak, and the Mine Ride getting knocked down and replaced with newer, family friendly additions (40" - 44" height requirements). Which would not be a bad thing, would it? Maybe a dark ride or two? Maybe??
However, there is room to be had if some of the area reserved for hotel parking could be reclaimed (can you build multi-level parking garages on the Point?). Also, I am not a huge fan of water parks (they are all about the same unless your company's name is Schlitterbahn or Disney), so removing the Soak City stuff could leave lots of space for new rides. So, there are some opportunities for growth, but like James said, something pretty much has to go for something new to be built.
Just don't mess with my oft overlooked Wildcat! There are only three of these types of coasters operating in the US today, and for some reason, I treasure its simple, yet surprisingly fun, joyride. =)
From Erin B
Posted February 6, 2010 at 9:35 AM
The idea of CP expanding over the lake has been discussed over & over again on the CP forums, and while I don't know whether it's true or not, many claim that CP does not own that "property" and therefore it wouldn't be possible. Additionally, the costs would probably be through the roof.
James, you bring up a good point in suggesting that we may be saying goodbye [or good riddance...] to Disaster Transport in the future. Demon Drop is finally gone, which clears up a fine bit of space near the front of the park. There are many more buildings & attractions in that area that could very well go in the near future to free up space for a new ride [or rides], including DT.
I was thinking they can make some manmade landscaping on the sea?
From Erin B
Posted February 6, 2010 at 4:46 PM
Yeah, but if they don't own the rights to build over the lake or own the property or however you'd put it, then it doesn't matter. It's a neat idea but I don't see it actually happening. Just my opinion.
From Bob Miller
Posted February 7, 2010 at 2:15 PM
How about building a mega coaster above a lower coaster to save space? With the right design, it might work.
Bob, that would need tough work, they would need to make the park go indoors, but if they can make it stand over 100 feet, that will need alot of support system. They should expand the island then make some sand lands like Dubai to get another coaster.
Well, there won't be any this year for sure, but who knows, there might be one in the near future...
I know there will be a water ride this year.
I am a huge coaster enthusiast - so much so that I even worked as server at Cedar Point for two summers. Cedar Point has had plans since the 70's to build a monorail down the causeway and it is no secret in Sandusky that they have been buying up blocks of land on the main land for some time. In fact if you are driving out to the park and look to your left just before the last stop light those two buildings are employee housing. My point is that if the park was willing to pull the trigger and build mass parking garages on the mainland and monorail people out to the park they would have ample space to build out for years to come. The trouble is that as the age of leadership in the company has decreased their willingness to pull the trigger on such large capital improvements/changes. That isn't to say that there isn't intelligence from a business point of view in bolstering their other properties and expanding their family offerings; just as a coaster enthusiast I do find it sad that America's Roller Coast is failing to step to the plate and fight for their rightful title! Cedar Point will always be number one in my heart with Magic Mountain a distant second!
I'm a little disappointed in Cedar Point also but at the same time you have to look at all the investments they're making at their other parks. With the coasters they're building at King's Dominion and Carowinds I'm happy that they're at least building a new ride this year for Cedar Point. Plus, it's been awhile since Cedar Point has had a relevant water ride. I think in the next 2 years we'll hear talk of another new coaster and the coaster war will be relevant again!
The new log flume ride will be very cool. Plus I have been to many parks and cedar point is by far the best, the setting and beutiful lake views mixed with unreal coasters. Plus you have great resturants, hotels and the water park all right there. Cedar point will be fine, I live in NY and drive past 3 or 4 parks just to get to cedar point.
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