Unions announce campaign to organize Universal Orlando workforce
A group of labor unions announced this week that it is trying to organize the workforce at Universal Orlando Resort. Florida Today reports
Representatives of the International Association of Machinists, the United Steelworkers Union, the International Union of Journeymen and Allied Trades and the Transportation and Communications Union have been talking with Universal employees over the summer, starting with employees who have relatives and friends working at union-organized Walt Disney World.
Editor's commentary: Since management provides a unified front in offering wage and benefits to employees, why shouldn't employees present an equally unified front in trying to get the best deal for themselves? Workers have little shot at sharing proportionally in a company's success if management can make a "take it or leave it" offer, never having to negotiate with employees who have real power to shut down operations if the company's offer is not adequate.
Maybe it's human nature to want to dictate, instead of negotiate. But unions built America's middle class, and union labor made America the world's largest superpower. Dictating's easier, and more profitable, in the short term, but over the long-term, management and workers better serve themselves by forging a real, mutual, equitable relationship where *both* sides give when they need to to help the other side succeed.
Unions provide a degree of safety and stability. You know you won't be fired unless you violate a clear rule negotaited by your union. You have a chance of promotion if you stick around long enough.
Once again, these comments provide proof that you can't teach economics to adults. Unions are terrible for business. Whenever you unionize, your union will eventually demand more than the business can bear, and the prices will go up.
Actually, I understand economics quite well, and unions also.
In the first place, I was talking about the comments of the author, not your comments.
I am in a unionized firm. It does offer group protection from managers who only look at the bottom line. However, in Florida, the only thing a Union is really good for is protecting your job and getting regular raises. They are nothing great, but we get a 3% raise every year, and have also had work studies done to compare our pay rates to the pay rates of similar organizations. Working for a county that was last year voted one of the top growing in the nation, and not getting paid like it only works for so long.
In the late '80s, I had a warehouse job and was in a union. It was pathetic. We paid burdensome dues - and the union did nothing at all except keep the slackers and goof-offs from being fired. I remember that one guy in the warehouse pulled a female workers' pants down one day (yes, both pairs of pants) in public on the warehouse floor. The company wanted to fire him...but the union saved his job. Thank God we had a union.......
See...that's what I mean.
Unions have lead to the demise of the auto industry and are a reason while companies outsource.
There is a matter that stands beyond this - the common labor/work market is getting readily screwed over at every turn, union or no union. The middle class is being screwed on income and benefits every day. Is it ethical and fair for corporations to treat the human work factor of their business thusly? Of course not. Somewhere, something, soon, is going to give. Or, we stand a mass labor revolt.
The reality of the situation is that corporate bosses ought to be the ones who get rich, and not the workers. They're the bosses. They're the ones who sit at the top. If you want to get rich, I suggest yo start a business.
Wow, Scott, I don't think I have ever gotten this mad from reading comments off of this board before. I can't even focus my thoughts thats how upset I just got from reading you last comment. I firmly know now that you are a republican, and no I don't use party lines as an insult. I come from a family where the majority are in the plumbers and pipefitters union and teachers unions. I have personally seen how unions work, been to meetings and such. I am not in a union, but I have seen them produce many positive things. Of course just like everything else in life there are some down sides to it. As far as your comments on health care, call me a bleeding heart, but I feel we should all should be afforded good health care regardless of social status. I count my blessings everyday that I am fortunate enough to work for a company that provides me with health care. My salary would not allow me the luxuary otherwise.
I have to ask Scott, what do you do for a living. You have an awful conservative approach to just about everything I've seen you discuss. My guess is that you're not a shovel pusher, or a manual laborer, or even someone who works in the retail industry. In my opinion, its people with views like yours that are to blame for a the current cycle that the economy has taken. People with your line of thought of basically "If you want to get rich, then just go get rich" are the reason that oil companies are posting record sales quarter after quarter while consumers pay more and more at the pump. And I'm sure you'll come back with the "supply and demand" and again in my opinion that theory was put in place by the rich to stay rich.
I actually used to run a chainsaw for a living. And I was a concrete labourer. And I worked in landscaping. And I used to be an electrician's assistant. My Dad was in the NAVY, and when he left my mother, she worked for a temp agency. My grandfahter was in the NAVY and came from a coal-mining background. I'm not rich, and never have been. I have healthcare, which I pay for MYSELF. I've gone without healthcare before, as well, and no, I can't sympathize with someone who insists on someone else taking care of them like they are a child.
As this discussion is breaking along 'party lines' and people are being accused of being 'conservative' (the horror!!), allow me to say that some people appear to want an America that consists ONLY of a middle class. To do that, they want to steal from the rich and give to the poor. That stuff sounds good in fairy tales...but in real life it's criminal, unethical, and takes away any incentive to pursue the 'American dream'. America is becoming a nation where rich people are viewed as being 'evil'. What good is getting rich if everyone wants to take all your money YOU EARNED away from you??!!
I used to work for Disneyland in th late 80s, early 90s and at least in California, you MUST belong to the union in order to work at Disneyland. If given the choice 90% of the employees (at that time) would have opted out.
Any Libertarians or old school small government republicans here? If so then you'll know where I stand on Unions and the tyranny of the so called workers majority.
Just adding some more of my memories from my union days:
RObert Olson is correct!
Thank God there are other people in the world who understand economics.
Scott, You are WAY out of line. As a former Wal-Mart employee (support manager that made minimum wage as a member of management with no benefits to speak of) I can say that as profitable as Wal Maret is, they most definately could afford to allow their employees to unionize. I currently work in the hotel industry at a unionized hotel. The wages that we get are not outragiously high, but are competative withe the other non- union shops in the area. Lets remember that the reason why unions came about in this country in the first palce was because business was mistreating its workers (some to the point of breaking the law). Are there bad unions? Absolutely. Is unemployment down right now? Sure, when you have a lot of people working two jobs just to make ends meet. Unions are not formed to bankrupt the companies of the workers they serve, that would be cutting off the revenue sorce that they need to survive. But there is nothing wrong with negotiating in order to share in the profits of a company whose success depends on the labor of its workers. Buy the way, if the domestic automakers made reliable cars that were worth buying, they woul d not be in trouble. Don't blame that on the unions.
Hey Patrick, allways remember, you get what you pay for. Don't complain about rude, slow, unprofessional ride operators when they are being paid the lowest possible salary. Ride operators often work long hours in the hot sun and have to put up with snobbish, rude guests with a superiority complex for the PRIVLEGE of minimum wage. What makes them think they are worth more? How about the fact that they have the lives of thousands of people in their hands daily. Its more than just pushing a button.
Just to add to the mix. I worked for Grumman Aerospace before it was taken over. At least once a year a union organizer would come by and get laughed out of the building. The workers were treated fairly and paid a fair wage for a days work. The union did not offer them anything. Unions served a purpose, at one time. They now have become what they were created to fight against.
Scott said: "It is built with all these advanced cooling systems, etc. Now, the toilets in this building don't have water in them. They flush without it."
Well, if you insist that unions work, they must, despite all the blaring evidence to the contrary.
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