Disney bans kids at Walt Disney World's top restaurant
Walt Disney World will no longer allow kids under age 10 to dine at the Victoria & Albert's restaurant at the Grand Floridian Hotel
Disney officials told the Associated Press that only about three families *a month* brought kids to V&As, which requires jackets for men and offers $125 multi-course dinners.
What do you think of the move? Good marketing, or a slap at Disney's core audience? A welcome change or a PR stunt (given that so few kids came anyway).
Personally, I think it's fine. There are plenty of other restaurants to choose from and adults deserve a quiet place to enjoy their meal. I've been reading other comments on other sites, and you'd think that Disney was abolishing children altogether from some of the posts. The fact is, not all visitors have children and they might want to enjoy a quiet, romantic evening. We all have seen the uncontrolled kids and clueless parents, so this offers a quiet haven. The people pay enough for their meal so they're entitled to enjoy it. Plus, it's not like NO children are allowed - just the little ones under 10.
The REAL question that should be asked is why the Orlando Sentinel felt that this was worthy of being a front page story.
I don't think of it being a bad move on Disney's part. I have eaten a few meals there with family, family and kids, and with business associates, etc... The only time I have taken my kids (ages 20 months, and 3 at the time I ate there with them) I choose to eat at the "Chefs Table" for the dining experience, and so that my kids would NOT disturb others in the regular dining room area just in case they got out of line. The experience was great and worked out well! The louder kitchen enviroment worked with the kids and actually made them calmer while watching the "kitchen show" take place. Mind you...this was more expensive, but again I was able to eat with my kids and family yet not feel as though I may have disturbed other patrons to the restaurant!
Well that's ironic! Disney banning kids!? I love it! j/k
I think it's long overdue. There seems to be this feeling that everything has to be for everyone. I see it on this board quite a bit in the discussions about why attractions should or shouldn't be replaced. It's good to have something for everyone. Some attractions appeal to some people and not others. Some restaurants are for some people and not others. That gives people choices. If the parks eliminated all of their shows to appeal to those who only liked rides, for instance, there would be nothing for those who did not like rides to do. If all the soft rides were replaced with roller coasters, there would be nothing for a person who could not ride roller coasters to ride. Eliminating children under 10 from a restaurant that caters to adults, and not just adults but adults seeking a gourmet, fancy, dining experience, makes sense. When I was a concierge at the GF, we were told to discourage families with small children from bringing them to V&A. It's why they are one of the only restaurants on Disney property with no children's menu of any sort. It was a subtle hint to parents that there really was nothing for their kids to do or eat there. Unfortunately, most parents believe their little darlings are precious to everyone around them, and often in that type of setting, that isn't the case. Their "precious darlings" are a disruption. Even normal, childlike behavior is often inappropriate in THAT setting. 10 is a good age. Families who can afford it can take their older children out to experience fine dining, and parents of younger children can find a babysitter or dine somewhere more appropriate for young children.
I love the comment about the chef's table. I wouldn't take my kids to VAs, but I would love to have an opportunity to introduce them to finer dining, with some expert instruction. Seems like there's an underserved niche there for a Disney experience.(maybe a VA lunch for kids twice a week?)
touchy subject, i have a wife and a baby (20 months).
That is kind of a slap. True, they dont attract a lot of families, and being that it is a high end resturaunt, someone like myself would save it more for a special occasion and would be unlikely to take the kids, but why ban them altogether? Why not be like other parks with, oh I dont know....lets say Halloween events and strongly recommend against it? A ban makes it seem like they are definately not wanted, and will send the message that this is an adults only area in an otherwise family world....something I think they would want to steer away from.
Smart move, frankly. In my humble opinion, if the meals cost more than $50 a person, anyone under 10 shouldn't be allowed to even step foot inside. No, it's not a slap at the core audience. I'd imagine it's more like an easy way to avoid some bad reviews by keeping out the bad kids. Simple as that.
LOVE Eric's comments! I'll go a bit further. I just get steamed when parents lets their kids wail in a restaurant while everybody around them suffers. The parents ignore the constant stares from others and just sit there and let the child cry.
Personaly, I think agree that children should be an certain age to attend a restaurants.Older children would be more likely to have more respect, and not to be running around the restaurant.
Fabulous move!!! Now if we can just get an age minimum in the California Grill, I'll be good to go.
Being British, I am mischievously wondering whether, under contemporary circumstances, (Queen) Victoria might have said to (her Consort) Albert 'one is not amused'.
I am surprised at this because I always thought there was a minimum required age to dine there. But then again, when my husband and I have gone there in the past we always choose a later dining time, so we may just avoided any kids. Personally, I think 10 is even too young to be there. It should be at least 16. When we go there, it is always for a special occasion and I wouldn't want that ruined by someone's obnoxious kids. I have a 4 year old and he is usually good in restaurants but I wouldn't dream of taking him there - it's too expensive and I would hate to have to leave if he started getting cranky. Whenever we go it costs close to $300 for the two of us (we do the wine pairings) and if I am paying that mnuch for a dinner then I don't want it ruined with some misbehaving children whose parents do not know how to ocntrol them.
Considering that many WDW resturants allow kids, I think there are some newlyweds or couples that want a kid-free atmosphere. So, good move on my part.
This sounds alot to me to what the Cruise Lines do where there are areas for kids, teens, Adults, and families. There should be certain areas where adults should be able to be have an enjoyable, child free time even at the home of Mickey Mouse.
I think that if someone thinks their kid can handle it then anyone should be allowed to bring their child. ESPECIALLY at a Disney owned place. ! I feel that if they do this they should have a next door care center to entertain the children free of charge for those who are dining there. I have a son who is 11 but autistic and would not take him to that restaraunt because I know he couldn't handle it but I also have a 16 year old who would have liked and handled it at age 4. Every child is different so how can you ban them. Crazy. I noticed there are a lot of places kids cannot go at Disneyworld. Do they want it a young drinking place with Mickey running around doing shots or do they want to keep the magic and innocent mind of Disney. Come on. If you want to go without your child get a nanny or take a cruise.
One of the things that we are not thinking about is not if the child can handle the situation, but is there anything on the menu a child might like. My kids were very picky in their youth, not that they have gotten much better, I would have never taken them into this type of restaurant. Mac and Cheese was a main stay. Young palates are not atuned to the flavors of a fancy dining establishment. What we consider wonderful, they consider dirt. I have never really cared about the other patrons, but I would have either not taken my kids to an adult oriented eatery or made sure I took them out if they started fussing. I never blame the kids, it is always the parent's problem for not thinking things through.
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