LIM at Cedar Point
Cedar Point: Some very interesting pictures.
Point Buzz has posted some pictures of Lim launch track at the staging area at Cedar Point. The ride is definately not going to be one of the tallest in the world. I thought it was going to be like Port Adventuras but that is an accelerator coaster. I think that this could be a ride like Rita although it won't be an accelerator it will be longer I think. I think that if this coaster is going to be different it will have to be in the trains. Maybe Intamin will fuse some stuff together to make something extreme.
The word is that it will be a hybrid coaster with an initial hydraulic launch and LIM boosters along the way. I think they're probably going for the length record and/or inversion record.
From Sean Rust
Posted August 22, 2006 at 7:52 PM
Cedar Point has to have everything in the record books...
Not seeing any inversions in the track so far. Could be a length record....could also be a speed record they are going for.
Regardless of what it is, I have to hand it to Cedar Point for managing to create another frenzy amongst fans and followers of the industry.
Do I hear 10,000 feet???
Hopefully they don't pull a Six Flags move and only build it 8,001 ft long.
hahaha
Just announced on funcoast.com - Cedar Point will announce the new roller coaster on September 7th!
Anyone think it's going to be built like Six Flag's ROS that keeps beating out Milennium Force on the Golden Ticket awards?
umm MF won the award last year so how does it keep beating it out? interesting, and give me speed and height any day so MF is #1
From steve lee
Posted August 29, 2006 at 3:09 PM
S:ROS won the award for 2006 (they were just announced a few days ago). I doubt the new ride will resemble S:ROS, however, as Cedar Point really already has Milennium Force and Magnum. They don't need another non-looping hyper or giga coaster (besides, haven't we already had confirmation on inversions?).
Well, we don't have to worry about it being a non-looper seeing as how there are 2 inversions already.
Watch that wicked twister launch, it's on the beach and lets just say, i was about 5 feet from getting "Fabioed" (those that dont know, the actor Fabio was hit in the face by a goose on a roller coaster one time)
From steve lee
Posted August 31, 2006 at 3:47 PM
^Apollo's Chariot, to be exact.
Apparently SFOG's Goliath also killed a bird or two off when it opened (luckily it was a collision with the train and not a guest's face).
I think the new CP coaster will be a record breaker for inversions, not length. It looks a bit like Colussus, the coaster that has the record down right now
it's goin 2 have a huge lift hill and a launch halfway through the ride, im gettin pumped like the rest of america.....
From steve lee
Posted August 31, 2006 at 7:37 PM
^a standard lift with LIMs in the middle? That's downright wacky. I think Tombraider Ty may be spot-on with the Colossus comparison. Cedar Fair has got to be getting sick of the coaster wars. There's only so much room left there before they have to start tearing down good stuff to toss up another coaster. With Six Flags putting Magic Mountain up for sale, no one else is going to be competing with them for number of coasters, so they need to close this thing out on top (though based on the non-operation of Flashback, I think they should still be considered tied for number of coasters).
They had the fastest and the tallest and they lost it (cheaply, in all honesty. They should have gotten an exclusivity clause with Intamin like Busch (allegedly) did with B&M for vertical drops. They didn't do it, probably believing that no one would be wacky enough to top Dragster. They thought wrong). Length is really not a record that anyone gets terribly excited about. It HAS to be inversions.
I just hope they go with TRUE inversions and not made up "well, it's really heavily banked, and that's close enough, right" BS (see Thunderhawk - Geauga Lake's website says there's 7 inversions, RCDB counts 5. Who you gonna trust? By that kind of logic, I think Iron Dragon could be considered as having an inversion - them cars are awful close to parallel to the ground!).
Irregardless, it's going to take a lot more than that to get me back to Cedar Point. Wake me up when they open a dark ride.
lol @ a dark ride, biggest waste of money you can imagine
Screamscape has a concept art photo and the ride looks terribly average. The drop is supposed to be vertical so that could be cool but the rest of the ride just looks average to me.
^ You know it!
looks kind of long, but very tame. hard to tell exactly though
They also said that the cars will carry 12 people. It isn't for sure but if thats the capacity wait time will be awful.
From steve lee
Posted September 3, 2006 at 11:17 AM
To Cedar Point's credit, they're very efficient at keeping the lines moving. The issue would be how many trains they could have on the track at one time. If they're on a two train operation, that line is going to be insane. Hopefully they can get the station set up like Dragster where there's separate loading/unloading areas, allowing them to get 3 to 4 trains on at a time.
I honestly do not think that they are trying to break a record with a super thrilling coaster. As the smartest park in the world, they realize that not everybody who visits wants one of those and they are likely building a twisty one that is nice but does not make you sick, one everyone should enjoy (like Wildcat, but not in design).
Yeah, I'm sure Cedar Point has some nifty way for capacity. You never stand still for long in any of their lines, even Top Thrill Dragster and Millennium Force (that surprised me when I was there).
hey Dustin, they won the best award for that....
Well according to this site Cedar point isn't even the best park in the world. The best one for this year gets the best new coaster for next year you all will see. I would like to point out that as mentioned above CP does not have all the records. The world's fastest inverted coaster is alpengeist and next year the world's fastest coaster that has a 90 degree drop at 75 mph for the fastest dive coaster Griffon. LIM coasters are yesterday's coasters. Get B&M to do something good for CP.
lol Maverick looks a lot better than sum Griffon, go ride on a Intamin coaster u lil boy and u will c the major difference, people wait in lines for intamins, why do you think CP continues 2 build them, ur so NOT educated
From steve lee
Posted September 9, 2006 at 6:51 PM
Only half true, Stephen. Alpengeist is the fastest invert in the world that doesn't utilize LIMs. Volcano hits a higher top speed (as do several Intamin Impulse coasters, though there's plenty of debate whether those should be considered "coasters").
From Sean Rust
Posted September 9, 2006 at 7:04 PM
Do not even begin to compare Maverick to Griffon. Maverick is considered a family coaster. Griffon is a thrilling coaster.
From steve lee
Posted September 9, 2006 at 9:05 PM
How's about not comparing them until they, y'know, EXIST? And about that "family" thing...70mph and three inversions? That is NOT a family coaster. If people actually buy into that, we'll probably be hearing about a lot more "preexisting health conditions" next year at CP...
The ride looks great and all, but can we call a spade a spade?
Just watched a video on google about griffon.... wasn't blown away by it.
didn't see much about it that made it more thrilling then Maverick. both have 90 degree drops. 3 inversions. guess Griffon has a water feature but thats not like OOOOOOO THRILLING ! I'd say these match up fairly close and both should be good rides
Here is where Griffon will seperate itself from all the other new coasters next year. The lift hill is at a 45 degree angle which only dive coasters have. The other is the fact that it is floorless, if you sit on the outside of the 10 wide car you won't have anything below you because the track will be near the center of the rows. Plus you get the thrill of the holding break for 3 seconds you'll see your 205 foot drop. I agree with the water brakes they are not anything to write home about just another feature that dive machines use.
Griffon is not making me excited at all, but I'm certainly extremely excited to be going to CP next year, can't wait, underground launch is going to be so much fun, see yall there....
Sorry but anything from Intamin doesn't rise my levis at all. Notice more injuries and down time is from Intamin rides. Here's another since your not a BGE fan. I rode the only intamin there which is escape from pompeii and it was down 4 times I went and twice when I was on it.
good stay out of the lines 4 the exciting rides and ride ur silly B&M's, Intamin equals variety and thrills, they dont just build ugly looking BIG TRACK slow steel coasters, intamin can build anything they want cuz they are far more advanced technology wise. You will never see a B&M coaster reach the 300 foot level cuz their track is way TOO big to go that high.
I went ahead to educate myself and checked out the golden ticket awards on-line. I notice that your TTD is about to drop out of the top 10. I thought that was so great. CP has two coaster higher and even Apollo's chariot comes in at a respectable 5th. Here are your 2006 awards list. Notice MF is no longer number 1. Just like to point that out.Top 10 Steel Coasters of 2006. This was from the golden ticket award website. Check it out yourself.
# NAME PARK LOCATION YEAR FROM POINTS
1 Superman Ride of Steel Six Flags New England Agawam, Mass. 2000 Intamin 1129
2 Millennium Force Cedar Point Sandusky, Ohio 2000 Intamin 1052
3 Magnum XL-200 Cedar Point Sandusky, Ohio 1989 Arrow 663
4 Nitro Six Flags Great Adventure Jackson, N.J. 2001 B & M 615
5 Apollo’s Chariot Busch Gardens Williamsburg Williamsburg, Va. 1999 B & M 610
6 Expedition GeForce Holiday Park Hassloch, Germany 2001 Intamin 500
7 Phantom’s Revenge Kennywood West Mifflin, Pa. 2001/
1991 Morgan/
Arrow 446
8 Montu Busch Gardens Tampa Tampa, Fla. 1999 B & M 388
9 Goliath Six Flags Over Georgia Atlanta, Ga. 2006 B & M 354
10 Top Thrill Dragster Cedar Point Sandusky, Ohio 2003 Intamin 333
and #1 park for the 9th year in a row, drum roll please, goes 2 CP, ding ding ding....
This has turned into one of the most childish discussions. Yeah, I'm partial to CP myself, but I will not bash every other park, argue about who makes what coaster, or insist that "my park/ride/company is better than yours!!!"
Come on. Really.
The main reason I wanted to post under this topic is because I am curious if anyone can tell me about this "horseshoe roll" that's supposed to be the first of its kind on Maverick. And this 95 degree drop--is that a first, too?
Audrey, according to the official Maverick website, it's not breaking any records, so I'm guessing the 95 degree drop isn't unique, even though I've never heard of a ride with that drop angle before and still don't really understand it.
I know...I just don't see how that type of drop is possible. Maybe the trains are covered? I can't get the Maverick site to load on my comp or I'd just go check it out.
95 degree drop means that when it starts to drop, it will bend back under (just slightly) the lift hill. 90 degrees would be straight down. doesn't seem all that impressive as it's only going to be 105 ft tall
Well I've changed my mind, at first I had no intention to visit CP but NOW viewing the video on the website, I REALLY wanna go ride Maverick! It sorta reminds me of that one at Hershey Park.
Maverick is gonna blow other coasters away next year, Lines will be so long it will extend to the front of the park, will make MF lines look short and thats almost impossible to do...
So it sounds like a good time for me to hit cedar point to check out the second ranked coaster in the world. As a matter of fact all of the other coasters since I won't have to waste time waiting for maverick. Well I'll probably skip TTD too because of the fact I don't do 30 second coasters and I like air time and something other than up and down and done. Ryan I have a question. If I do make it there how does Magnum ride? Every Arrow ride I've been on seem like if your over 5'5" you will get jammed into the trains. I've never been found of most Arrow rides. They are also quite jerky in my experience.
From steve lee
Posted September 11, 2006 at 1:38 PM
Magnum shows its age pretty badly. It's nowhere near the level of smoothness that one of the newer B&M hypers provides. That said, it's still a very good ride that is sadly neglected by far too many guests at the park (it doesn't help that the queue is poorly marked).
Magnum reminds me of a woodie, alot of intense airtime. It's not my fav ride but its worth riding and fun, especially with the view u get when riding. I like how it's on the beach. If your a fan of woodies then you will really enjoy it alot.
I still really enjoy Magnum, and it really isn't rough. I mean, compared to MF it is, but I don't exactly think that's a fair comparison. And yeah, the views are incredible...
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