Avengers Assemble!! What'd you think?Walt Disney World: Disney's Marvel's The Avengers
From Mark FairleighMan, I love that Disney bought Marvel...now we can discuss the Avengers on TPI without it being awkward! ;) I've seen it three times so far and it was better with each viewing...I love this movie!
Posted May 7, 2012 at 8:01 AM
I grew up reading the Avengers comics and they're history with me goes back 30 years exactly...to when I first picked up Avengers #221 in May 1982. I remember seeing a character named Hawkeye on that cover amongst others and going wow...this is awesome. Now 30 years later, he's on the big screen. Man, unbelievable.
No spoilers...just want to say this movie is a feast from beginning to end. No wasted scenes, no wasted dialogue...everything fits together with near-perfection...and it might just be perfect. All the effort, and in hindsight, absolute genius of seeding the Marvel movie-verse with individual movies pays off in spades. Kudos to everyone involved...namely Joss Whedon for his writing and direction duties. Man, what a job. Disney is no longer crying over a great movie that sadly bombed in John Carter. Avengers Assemble!!
Did you see it? What'd you think?
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From James RaoIt was brilliant. A masterpiece. Perhaps the best Super Hero flick to date. Gonna check it out again today in 3D.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 8:17 AM
From Skipper AdamI've seen it twice and plan to return. There is something about this movie. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts and it all equals a movie that when I leave I am extremely satisfied. In fact, I left thinking the movie was worth more than I paid for. I totally plan in seeing it many times.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 9:19 AM
On the awkward side, the makes the Disney/Universal contract far more valuable to both sides. Up to this point, I could see Disney being hesitant to add Marvel to it's theme parks. However, the contract may work out fine. WDW get's the majority of the crowds, and Avatar possibly in the future. While it still need TLC, DLR needs the mega draw to help distribute and distinguish the resorts. If one coast has Avatar and the other Avengers, then the profits from both franchises would do better by creating to destinations, two places to spend money.
It's interesting to note, this movie, when all said and done, will alone pay for one fourth of the Marvel purchase.
From Dominick DBeat me to it! I personally loved it, and not only IMO is it the best superhero movie ever, but one of the greatest movies of all time. Joss Whedon pulled off great directing and a great script. Hulk was definetly the star of the show, but I won't spoil the best part of the movie. The 3D was great, especially since this was post-converted. My favorite 3D moment was when Black Widow's gun came out of the screen. I'd rank this as probably my 3rd favorite film, only behind Empire Strikes Back and A New Hope. This was a nerd's dream come true.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM
From Manny RodriguezI think it can go to disney theme Parks the 3d at the end was outstanding i would say a interactive Spider man type ride
Posted May 7, 2012 at 10:54 AM
From Mike GallagherI'll catch it on DVD.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 11:15 AM
From Dominick DThat would be a big mistake Mike. It's the movie event of a generation and an expirence like no other.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 11:22 AM
From Skipper AdamFor once, I think I have to back up Dom. It is well worth the money to see, and DVD will not do it justice. When both critics and audiences agree that a movie kicks ass, as in Hell freezing over, then that's a sign that you should go see it.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 11:34 AM
From N BI'll be checking it out this weekend. The last blockbuster I went to on opening night was Harry Potter 7 Part 2 and it was insane. 20 theaters all showing the same movie and crazed fans in Hogwarts dress robes....
Posted May 7, 2012 at 11:56 AM
I usually wait a week, but I have a feeling my family will want to see MIB III on opening night come the 25th.
From Mike GallagherThanks for the tips, guys, but my hearing loss makes it difficult for me to enjoy the theatrical experience anymore...especially a noisy one, and I take it for granted the Avengers is a noisy movie. And although Captain America has been my fave superhero for decades, the rest don't do much for me. I loved his movie, and will catch Avengers later with the marvels..pun semi-intended..of closed-captioning.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 12:12 PM
From Dominick DThere's thunder outside around me. We just need lightning before thunder for Thor to come ;) Crap, I think he's here.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 12:26 PM
From Mark FairleighSorry to hear that, Mike. It'll be well worth the wait and I wouldn't be shocked if you end up liking the others as much as Cap. Cap's always been my favorite too, but each character is so well highlighted in this movie...and not just the Avengers proper. I was surprised how much I loved Black Widow, for example. She totally kicks butt in this movie.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 12:34 PM
From Dominick DIMO Hawkeye should of gotten a little more screen time.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 3:18 PM
From Caroline DavisAs a Joss Whedon fan, I was always going to love it. I'm just glad everyone else is agreeing.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 3:21 PM
From Mark FairleighDom, I thought the same thing at first, but my opinion changed the more times I saw it. I realized the amount of screen time Hawkeye actually got was more than I gave credit for. He was just used in ways I wasn't expecting, so my brain had to play catchup. And that little touch of added characterization they did for him at the very beginning was genius. Made him a deeper character than the comic-version.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 5:25 PM
From Amy SmithI've seen it twice so far - once in 2D and just tonight in 3D. I loved it.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 7:41 PM
The best quote of the entire movie: "Clench up, Legolas." I didn't catch it the first time so tonight when I heard it, it really caught me off guard and I almost died laughing.
From Dominick DI would see Avengers again, but I'd rather spend that $20 on theme parks. I'm just gonna get it on Blu-Ray 3D and watch it over and over and over again.
Posted May 7, 2012 at 7:42 PM
From James RaoTook my whole team to see the Avengers in 3D during work today. Thought they should see another great team in action! Movie is tremendous, and while the 3D is not mandatory (like it was in Avatar) it is pretty sweet especially during the final battle sequences (the 3D preview of the new Spider-Man film was terrific as well!).
Posted May 7, 2012 at 8:34 PM
Also, make sure to sit through ALL the credits....
From Phil B.Saw it Friday, May 4, 7:00pm. Just way too awesome for words. I've only been this excited for a handful of other movies where my geek meter was pinned to the red. Jurassic Park, The Phantom Menace, the first Transformers movie, and now this. What a truly great, fun, good old fashioned, spectacle of a popcorn summer, movie blockbuster. Seeing movies like this that only come around once in a while is almost mandatory viewing with a crowd on opening weekend. The electricity in the air, the excitement, the pure joy of the audience, laughing, cheering, clapping, gasping...it adds so much more to the experience of seeing this any other time, or at home on a tv. Movies like this are meant to be seen on the big screen. Bigger than life itself, much like the characters being portrayed in the movie. Everything leading up to this was well worth the wait. I only regret not being able to see it for the first time over and over again so I can repeatedly feel like an 8 year old boy being able to watch his wildest super hero dreams come to life right in front of him for 2 1/2 hours. It's a comic book movie master piece!
Posted May 7, 2012 at 10:08 PM
From Mark FairleighAmy, I so didn't catch that the first time either, but laughed out loud when I did...hilarious!
Posted May 8, 2012 at 7:10 AM
James, that was one of the best bits of the movie...too bad 99% of the audience in all of my viewings couldn't wait for it. I've read that scene was added just for the US release.
Phil, I totally agree...this movie is meant to be seen with a crowd...ideally, one that appreciates the jokes flying in this movie...I had one dud crowd that laughed only for the biggest funny moments (one scene in particular) and it does effect the experience to some degree.
From Dominick DAmy, I noticed that the first time :P
Posted May 8, 2012 at 7:14 AM
Oh yeah, if you didn't stay through the credits like me (I had to pee really, really bad), I found 1 of the 2 scenes on You Tube (flipped because of copyright issues):
From Mike GallagherDom, I know I can sometimes be pretty gross/vulgar on here, but...WTMI, dude.
Posted May 8, 2012 at 9:51 AM
From Dominick DMike, this was filmed about a week or 2 before the film came out in the US, and indeed is part of the film. Tony suggested that you should try the new shwarma down the street, and so The Avengers did.
Posted May 8, 2012 at 8:23 AM
From Mike GallagherDom, I'm betting you missed my intent. How tall are you? I'm guessing not very, since my comment went way over your head :)
Posted May 8, 2012 at 9:54 AM
From Dominick DYour such a hypnotizer Mike XD
Posted May 8, 2012 at 11:13 AM
From Mark FairleighThat scene may do wonders for shawarma in this country once word of mouth gets around and/or the DVD/Blu-Ray hits! One of my favorite scenes in movie history...genius and so comic-bookish.
Posted May 8, 2012 at 1:35 PM
From Mike Gallagher"Your such a hypnotizer Mike XD"
Posted May 8, 2012 at 6:50 PM
Sorry, Dom. I don't get that. I'm old, remember? :(
From Don NealGreat movie, loved it. Seen it twice so far. Going a third time this weekend. :D
Posted May 9, 2012 at 5:27 AM
From N BWe saw the Avengers tonight. The show we wanted to see was already sold out so we purchased tickets for the next show and went next door to the Chinese restaurant, the came back an hour or so later.
Posted May 12, 2012 at 9:35 PM
The movie was great, and the Chinese food was incredible. Normally, you order food at private tables in this theater, but since we already had dinner, it was cocktail time.
I was glad the screen time was pretty much equal for all the heroes, I though it was going to be more Tony Stark / Iron Man than everyone else. You have to sit through the entire credits if you want to catch the hint for the next movie and a cool part at the very end.
From Andy MilitoSaw it yesterday, and it blew me away.
Posted May 13, 2012 at 6:11 AM
Joss Whedon was just fantastic at keeping the characters similar to their previous films (Cap'n America being a noble warrior, Stark being cocky but willing to do anything) and giving each character a good amount of screen time. The story was also very strong, keeping everything that happened related to an upcoming event. The acting was superb, with Mark Ruffalo stealing the show as the Hulk.
Fantastic movie, I'd rate it 5 out of 5 stars. Surpasses The Dark Knight as my favorite superhero movie EVER. I'm glad I was able to contribute to its huge 800 million dollar gross!
From Dan BabbittLoved it!
Posted May 13, 2012 at 6:21 AM
Cant wait for Avengers 2!
From N BI kept waiting for the crazy action scenes and the movie didn't fall short at all. We opted for 2D because we all seem to like the classic presentation of films, but I am sure the 3D version was great too.
Posted May 13, 2012 at 12:11 PM
Captain America - "Hulk......... smash....."
Favorite line of the movie.
From Dominick DIt's expected to make 1 billion dollars worldwide by the end of today. I'm pretty sure this will beat HP and Titanic, but Avatar probably not.
Posted May 13, 2012 at 12:20 PM
From Skipper AdamActually there is a chance that it might be Avatar. Avatar didn't have an opening or a second weekend nearly as big. The biggest drop rate of films is between first and second weekend, and usually lays the path of the film. Avengers, already having both bigger debut had a small drop of 50% between the weekends, allowing this weekends records. As most film attendance drop rates go, it will beat Titanic, if not Avatar, but it has a chance. There's no doubt that it will hit 2 billion by the end of its run.
Posted May 13, 2012 at 12:43 PM
One big factor is how there is nothing competing with Avengers. Battleship next weekend is expected to do poorly because despite all the cool visuals, it's lacking in many other places. Many sources expect people would rather spend money on Avengers again than see Battleship.
Other factors that help is that the Cinemascore is A+, higher than most movies. Word of mouth will keep bringing new and returning guest to the theaters. Polls show that repeat viewings are more likely with three to four shows versus the one to two times of Avatar. Another thing going is how unpolitical the film is. Avatar was heavy handed with themes on the enviroment, big corporations and the military which despite the success, chased away plenty of theater goers. One last thing to consider is the tedium of the film. Watching Avengers for repeat views has been rated less tedious and more interesting than Avatar.
From Andy MilitoWikipedia and Box Office Mojo are reporting the Avengers having made a one billion dollar gross at the worldwide box office.
Posted May 13, 2012 at 4:46 PM
I really doubt it'll beat Avatar or Titanic, unfortunately. It should easily surpass a few above it, like Alice in Wonderland, Star Wars 1, Toy Story 3. Maybe even some big boys like Return of the King or Deathly Hallow Part 2.
From Mike GallagherLittle off topic, but I saw something where Jim Cameron said he will only make Avatar films from here on out. Just a blurb I saw..didn't see an actual story, so I dunno how true it is.
Posted May 13, 2012 at 4:46 PM
From Dominick DMike, James said he's not directing or producing movies anymore outside of Avatar and documentaries.
Posted May 14, 2012 at 5:05 AM
Back on topic, I would say The Avengers will get first place again this weekend. Battleship isn't much of a threat thanks to bad reviews. The only one that could take Avengers down from #1 would be MIB3, but that's a 50/50 chance.
From Tim OdomAvengers was, indeed, quite awesome. But getting to the $2billion worldwide make is exceedingly tough. I do think Avengers has a chance as it should do $500-600 million in the domestically. Internationally, I think $2 billion is possible, especially since I don't think it opens in Japan til August, which should add another $200 million or so. However, comic movies tend to flame out quicker, so while these numbers look possible, they are by no means guaranteed.
Posted May 14, 2012 at 8:09 AM
What helps The Avengers in making tons and tons of money is that, outside of Battleship and Men in Black 3, nothing of note comes out for a while. And it is VERY possible Avengers will trounce both of those like it did Dark Shadows.
But beating Avatar? I honestly think that is an uphill climb, but a possible uphill climb. Just speaking domestically (since international numbers are odd, mainly due to when the film premieres in each country), Avatar opened for less money than Avengers, but Avatars second weekend went up, as opposed to Avengers losing 50% of it's previous weekend. Say what you will about Cameron, his movies tend to have excellent performance over time. Comic movies tend to not have similar performance, but I think this is one that can buck that trend.
From James RaoI think Avengers has a good chance to finish third overall, behind the two Cameron blockbusters, but I don't see it surpassing the $600m domestic mark.
Posted May 14, 2012 at 1:52 PM
Globally, Avengers is already losing ground to Avatar which grossed $1.022B in its first 19 days, while Avengers made $1.002B. Still, astonishing success, and further proof that Joss Whedon is a creative genius.
From Tim OdomI concur, 3rd is probably the best Avengers can do unless something unforeseen happens. I think it should breeze past Dark Knight, but the distance between Dark Knight and Titanic is quite large (like $100 million). $600 million is possible, since it is making money so damn fast, but $700+ million is unlikely.
Posted May 15, 2012 at 7:08 AM
And, yeah, Cameron's movies had incredible performance. I despise Titanic, but I give it all the credit in the world. It made $600 million in the 90's (becoming the first movie over $500 million AND $600 million) by getting $20 million a weekend for like 3 months. It had a mediocre opening, but it kept it's audience, which is just something you never see. And it stayed $200 million ahead of every movie made until Dark Knight came out, and that fell short by $100 million. Cameron does, indeed, get the audience to go to his films.
From Mike GallagherI consider the second half of Titanic..once it hits the iceberg..to be one of the most spectacular films ever made. The only reason to watch the first half..for me, anyway..is the performances of DiCaprio and Kate's upper half :)
Posted May 15, 2012 at 7:13 AM
From Orrin CarstarphenIf I am not mistaken weren't both Avatar and Titanic released more than once? I would love to see the Avengers re-released again at some point as a director's cut with all of the footage restored.
Posted May 15, 2012 at 2:32 PM
From Andy Milito^ Titanic was re-released earlier this year, and made $340.2 worldwide. Avatar, however, has not been re-released.
Posted May 15, 2012 at 2:40 PM
From James Trexen^Actually, Avatar was rereleased in August 2010 in 3D with 9 additional minutes.
Posted May 15, 2012 at 2:59 PM
From Mark FairleighI've heard that Whedon shot 5 hours worth of footage, so expect a lot of extra scenes on the Blu-Ray/DVD!
Posted May 15, 2012 at 4:21 PM
Also, turns out Downey Jr's is set to at least make $50 million dollars off the Avengers because of a contract that includes profit percentages.
ABC is exploring the idea of a Hulk tv series.
From Andy MilitoJames: Really? How much extra gross did it make?
Posted May 16, 2012 at 12:51 PM
From James Trexen$11 million domestic and $22 million overseas.
Posted May 16, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Probably why you never heard of it.
From Dominick DLooks like Avengers is gonna be #1 again this weekend because MIB3 is getting mixed reviews.
Posted May 22, 2012 at 11:58 AM
From Andy Milito^ That doesn't mean people won't go see it. Need I mention the Transformers movies?
Posted May 22, 2012 at 12:48 PM
From Dominick D^ I'm sure it will make a good amount, but I still think Avengers will be #1 again.
Posted May 22, 2012 at 5:02 PM
From Tim OdomA movie in it's 4th weekend, with this many people already having seen it, will face a tough road winning against a movie like MIB 3. Personally, I think MIB will beat Avengers pretty easily (Avengers' numbers last weekend were impressive, but not impressive enough to convince me it will take out MIB 3.) If I were to put numbers behind what I expect, I would say $80mil for MIB 3, and $35mil for Avengers, good enough for 2nd but it's run at the top is done.
Posted May 23, 2012 at 6:33 AM
Now, if it does gross big numbers, then watch out, major box office records could be in jeopardy. But, again, I doubt this. One of the reasons why Cameron's movies do such ludicrous business is that he releases them in December, where he has no competition. In a vacuum, Avengers would be going after Avatar, but that is much harder in the summer, where every few weekends a new tent pole film is released.
From James TrexenThe reason Avengers has lasted this long is because no other movie has really put it in it's place up until Men in Black 3.
Posted May 23, 2012 at 8:30 AM
Week 1, no other movie besides Avengers came out, so it took top spot.
Week 2, word of mouth spread out to folks like me who decided that the film should be worth a shot while older generation movie goers went with Dark Shadows, but still took the top spot.
Week 3 saw the release of Battleship , the Dictator and What to Expect When You're Expecting. While the wives were out to see the latter, men who generally put off by Battleship and the Dictator decided to spend their money on Avengers, nailing the third week again.
However, as we approach Week 4, Men In Black should put Avengers in it's place. The fact that MIB is using a family marketing strategy, something the movies listed above (except Avengers) failed to do, and general appeal makes me certain that it will take the top spot.
From Dominick DIt's a 50/50 chance. If Avengers lasted this long, I'd be suprised.
Posted May 23, 2012 at 9:05 AM
From Tim OdomIt's much worse than a 50/50 chance. I have seen some predictions for MiB to make upwards of $90 million this weekend. Unless something completely unexpected happens (like movie goers rejecting MiB 3 since they remember how bad MiB 2 was), I expect Avengers to come in a distant second.
Posted May 23, 2012 at 1:24 PM
From James TrexenRotten Tomatoes is reporting a 66% fresh rating for MIB 3, making it seem even more likely to take the top spot.
Posted May 25, 2012 at 10:09 AM
From Tim OdomTruthfully, reviews for summer movies mean pretty much nothing, at least for their opening weekends. What separates the hits from the flops many times is what happens after the opening. Take the subject of this discussion, Avengers. It had a massively huge opening, but if the movie was awful then the second weekend drop would have been just as huge, and it would have plateaued around $300-350 million (for example, check out how quickly faded.) Basically, bad moves fade quicker.
Posted May 25, 2012 at 10:49 AM
So, I think MIB 3 will get more money this weekend, but in the end will probably not come within $300 million of Avengers final take.
From Dominick DMIB 3 looks popular from my local theaters, but I doubt it's total gross worldwide would be more then $500 million.
Posted May 25, 2012 at 11:39 AM
From Dominick DMIB beat it, but it underperformed. Who knows, maybe it could get #1 again next weekend?
Posted May 29, 2012 at 1:55 PM
From Andy MilitoMIB3 hasn't even reached it's budget yet. It may have pummeled the Avengers last weekend, but it's not gonna do it worldwide, probably not even domestically.
Posted May 29, 2012 at 3:53 PM
From Jay R.MIB 3 did far better internationally than it did domestically, so while it might not be a huge hit, collectively it did solidly for a franchise that's been a MIA (get it...MIB was MIA.....tee hee) for a decade.
Posted May 29, 2012 at 4:27 PM
I think everyone knows it's going to be rare for anything to come close to the avengers box office numbers (dark night rises could come close, but even that's not a guarantee)
I think comparing any other movie this summer to the avenegers isn't necessary, that's clearly in it's own league.
But it's nice to see something else top the b.o. charts, even if for a week or 2. It gives the b.o. charts variety
And helps taper the inevitable backlash if the avengers stayed #1 too long.........
From Anthony MurphyI saw the Avengers on the Disney Cruise Line (free cause "they own it!"). I liked it.
Posted May 29, 2012 at 4:28 PM
I also caught John Carter. I felt that Disney had a good concept, but fumbled on the plot timing and the explanation. I found that it could have been a great line for Disney.
From Tim OdomAvengers run at the top is probably done, with Snow White and the Huntsman being competition this week, and Madagascar 3 and Prometheus next. Yes, Avengers could potentially make more (I think Snow White looks good, but I am not sold on it being a money maker.)
Posted May 29, 2012 at 7:15 PM
As for anything touching it's numbers, I sincerely doubt anything will do that this summer. Seeing that it is the 4th movie ever to gross over $500, I don't think we will see another this year. Dark Knight Rises will do well, but it will probably not do as well as the last one.
Then again I could be wrong.
From Dominick DYou have to remember TDKR doesn't have 3D and doesn't appeal to families and kids.
Posted May 29, 2012 at 7:46 PM
From Mike GallagherHuh. I thought the new rules mandated that every new movie mus be in 3D. What a maverick, that Christopher Nolan!
Posted May 30, 2012 at 4:09 AM
From Dominick DIt does have IMAX though, but Avengers also did.
Posted May 30, 2012 at 7:16 AM
From Tim OdomRemember, The Dark Knight also did $533 million, so a movie with no 3D and limited family appeal (though that is arguable, it is still Batman, and Batman is still a superhero) can earn massive amounts of money. I just doubt The Dark Knight Rises due to the fact I think about $100-150 million of The Dark Knight's gross was due to Heath Ledger's performance and death. The Dark Knight Rises will do fine, but Avengers will probably win the summer (a gross somewhere over $550 million is mighty tough to beat.)
Posted May 30, 2012 at 12:49 PM
From Dominick DLedger's death was a big chunk for it's run.
Posted May 30, 2012 at 2:17 PM
From Jay R.I think Ledgers death piqued initial interest, but it was the word of mouth about his performance as the joker that I think gave it legs as well.
Posted May 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM
That & the fact that the GENERAL public (not just fanboys / action fans, etc) really liked the movie (like the avengers).
If the dark knight rises is well reviewed & received, it could have long legs (like the avengers)
But I don't think it's going to surpass the avengers worldwide box office. I can see it doing a strong second, Especially because it's being touted as the end of the trilogy.
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