Disney's Planes to replace Soarin?Disneyland: I know we have all been anticipating a new Soarin over the World Attraction, but my gut tells me the Disney flick Planes is going to replace the amazing but aging attraction1 Thoughts?
From Armando ThomasI know we have all been anticipating a new Soarin over the World Attraction, but my gut tells me the Disney flick Planes is going to replace the amazing but aging attraction Thoughts?
Posted April 21, 2013 at 2:10 PM
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From Matt BabiakNo chance. Soarin will not be replaced by a spin off of Pixar's worst film ever made. Unless the movie grosses a billion at the box office, Planes will never get a ride.
Posted April 21, 2013 at 2:16 PM
From Andy MilitoNo. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no. NO.
Posted April 21, 2013 at 2:33 PM
From Dominick DThe sad part is you're probably right. Planes will make money, so why the hell not? I'll be pissed if Disney's dumb enough to do it.
Posted April 21, 2013 at 3:38 PM
From Anthony MurphyDoubt it
Posted April 21, 2013 at 3:56 PM
From Andrew DoughertyThere's a chance it might happen. Doubt it though. The movie however will make millions at least. I could see a spinner dumbo type ride being made however. Maybe for Hollywood Studios.
Posted April 21, 2013 at 8:15 PM
From AJ HummelI doubt Disney would be dumb enough to take one of the best theme park attractions in existence and convert it to a mediocre movie tie-in. I would say they could have one of the movie characters make a cameo appearance, but Tinkerbell is the one thing I don't like about the current version so I hope not. Either leave Soarin' the way it is or do a proper upgrade that has no connection to any Disney movie.
Posted April 21, 2013 at 10:46 PM
From Flavio de SouzaLast year I walked in twice to Soarin in DCA. In Epcot the lines are unbelievable! What makes the same attraction being a popularity champion in one park and just another attraction in other?
Posted April 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM
From Dominick DWhere DCA has other top draws, Epcot only has Soarin, Test Track, and SSE.
Posted April 22, 2013 at 11:39 AM
From Armando ThomasI do agree. I hope it doesnt get the Planes theme. It just seems thats the way things seem to go these days.
Posted April 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM
From Jay R.I highly doubt Soarin would change to Planes.
Posted April 22, 2013 at 2:12 PM
Initially, Planes was supposed to go directly to video, so from the beginning it probably wasn't being developed as Disney next's big franchise.
There are ALREADY variety of successful properties that don't have attractions (Think Wreck it Ralph or the incredibles)
Even a balloon based "UP" attraction didn't replace Soarin, Walle -E hasn't replaced the aging Capatin EO, etc.
I'm sure even if Planes is hugely successful (and the merchandise would have to be equally impressive), that doesn't mean they'd automatically change Soarin.
It would take more than just a box office hit before they'd alter one of their most popular attractions.
From Scott BHere is the thing, Disney's Planes isn't being made by Pixar, it is being made by their in house straight to video team, DisneyToon Studio. So that will already cut down on interest in it.
Posted April 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Plus Cars isn't even as successful of a franchise as people think it is. Sure, the merchandise sells well, but the movies aren't as successful. Cars 2 stands as the second lowest grossing Pixar movie just in front of 'A Bug's Life'. So I can't picture a spinoff doing much better.
From Andrew DoughertyThe thing is, once you slap Tge Disney name onto something it will sell. Even if the movie is critically panned. If it bombs in the box office, I wouldn't be suprised if it becomes a cult classic.
Posted April 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM
From Matt BabiakPlanes will fail at the box office. No doubts about it. Disney has had how many good movies this century? I'll give Lilo and Stitch and Wreck it Ralph. Maybe Princess and the Frog. The thing that they all have in common was that they weren't made for and marketed to just kids, but rather were made and marketed in a style that would make adults bring their kids so they could see it. They are marketing Planes specifically towards kids.
Posted April 23, 2013 at 2:17 PM
Plus, whoever said that they weren't trying to make it a good movie is right. Toon Studio, Spin off, few commercials. This movie was never intended for a ride, but rather for the 5 year olds to beg their mommies to see it. They know that a Planes tie in wouldn't draw a crowd.
To make a last point, the key lies in the past. If they didn't change the theme when UP came out, they won't now. Up was well reviewed and grossed $731 million. I reserve the right to come here in 6 months and say I told you so when Planes doesn't hit 400.
From Andrew DoughertyAlright, by successful I didn't mean 400 million bit I KNOW FOR A FACT Planes WILL NOT FAIL AT THE BOX OFFICE. I also reserve the right to say I told you so when it does well.
Posted April 23, 2013 at 6:05 PM
From James TrexenI find this whole film's development interesting. Releasing a spin off to what is universally called Pixar's worst film certainly sets low expectations. However, recent test screenings for the movie have had so far positive critical reception (I've even heard moreso than Monsters University). And releasing it in August is a big no-no if it wants to get money, even if it has the Disney name. Certainly, no one can predict any results until later this year.
Posted April 23, 2013 at 7:46 PM
From Matt BabiakIf Disney released "Five Minutes Of Looking At Grass" it'd do well at the box office. That doesn't make it a good movie. And Andrew, if it won't gross half of what UP made, what makes Planes a better ride choice?
Posted April 24, 2013 at 4:09 AM
From Andrew DoughertyMy post was to defend that the movie will make money. Not that it will become a replacement for Soarin. I think however it would make a good Dumbo type spinner.
Posted April 24, 2013 at 12:17 PM
From Jay R.Planes will do fine at the box office.
Posted April 24, 2013 at 3:00 PM
It's August release date seems to be alternative fare.
There isn't another animated movie being released during August, so it won't (and wasn't meant to) compete with the big animated boys of summer.
No one (including Disney) is expecting this to do huge, blockbuster / Pixar style numbers at the box office. I think it will do decent numbers.
Disney's big movie seems to be "Frozen", with it's fancy November / Thanksgiving holiday / Oscar bait release date.
Planes has it's spot on Disneys calendar between M.U. & Frozen, I think it will do exactly what it's supposed to do.
From James Trexen"If Disney released "Five Minutes Of Looking At Grass" it'd do well at the box office."
Posted April 24, 2013 at 9:02 PM
"It's August release date seems to be alternative fare. There isn't another animated movie being released during August, so it won't (and wasn't meant to) compete with the big animated boys of summer."
The problem is, history has shown that August is one of the weaker months in terms of movies. There's too much of a back to school vibe that just doesn't get kids excited like June. The last Disney animated film released in August was (believe or not) DuckTales 23 years ago and that, well, did not do so good.
I know when the time comes, me and my gf are already planning to see Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters since that will be released the same week. And given the family marketing appeal that and Planes will share, I'm sure we can expect some competition.
In short, I think it's too early to say what will happen. Even with the Disney name attached, we should't rule out the possibility of an underperformance.
From Manny BarronAs for the Soarin' over the World rumor. Soarin' probably has to keep the Cali theme since its in a California themed park. For Epcot yes it makes sense and it would be fantastic if they both got new different films.
Posted April 24, 2013 at 10:45 PM
Epcot- with world-wide images.
As for people hatin' on the movie Cars, that film has an entire, hugely successful land in DCA! Planes will do decent at the box office, but more than likely not get anything in the theme parks.
From Jay R.James,
Posted April 25, 2013 at 3:14 PM
I think that's the point of an August release date for Planes.....there is somewhat of the unspoken theory that financial expectations are lower. So it doesn't have to do huge numbers to make a profit. Even if it does "OK" at the box office, I'm sure that could still still be considered a potential success for something originally going direct to video.
Percy Jackson could steal some families away, but I see Planes targeting an even younger audience & demographic. Although it's from the world of Cars, this ain't Pixar. I don't think it's going to get Pixar's "across the board" audience.
This seems like it's aimed at the youngsters right before they head back to school.....with backpacks & lunchboxes & tees that have characters from that August animated movie that JUST opened a couple weeks before school.
From Andrew DoughertyI don't really see Percy Jackson stealing families. When the first one came out, 5th grade me even thought it was horrible. So did my whole class. It was so bad I don't know if we will even bother to see it. Plus, the movie is based upon the worst of the 5 books.
Posted April 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM
From Matt BabiakThe first movie was so bad, I think it killed any chance of PJ in a park.
Posted April 26, 2013 at 4:15 AM
From N BI don't think Disney would re-do a ride based on a straight to DVD release. Planes will not be in theaters.
Posted April 26, 2013 at 1:41 PM
From Dominick DUHHH, yes it is
Posted April 26, 2013 at 2:18 PM
From Phil B.Global Box Office take will be over $400 Mil, I'd be pleased if it does $150 mil+ domestically. DVD sales would be strong as well, and merchandise should be popular. Kids LOVE planes, and anything that can fly really.
Posted April 26, 2013 at 8:57 PM
As far as replacing Soarin...naa, just upgrade to Soarin over the World. I still say Disney dropped the ball by shoehorning Soarin into the Land Pavilion. Really...The Land...the antithesis of being in the air? Never made any sense to me. Disney completely dropped the ball years ago by not opening up a new Aviation Pavilion at EPCOT with Soarin as the anchor attraction. Way to cheap out TDO. Actually, I wouldn't be heartbroken at all if they gutted the rest of the Land Pavilion and actually revamped it to become an Aviation Pavillion, then you could easily incorporate the new Planes franchise into the area with their own separate attraction. Living with the Land and the Lion King attractions there are tremendous snooze fests. That pavilion could use a little re-imagining outside of Soarin.
From N BIt was supposed to be direct to DVD last time I cared to check.... I'm sure you will be first in line at the theater with your light up Disney ears on, Dominick.
Posted April 27, 2013 at 8:20 AM
From Dominick DNB, I could give two craps about this movie. It's probably gonna be bad. Of all the films Disney is releasing this summer, Iron Man 3 is the most exciting.
Posted April 27, 2013 at 9:25 AM
From Matt BabiakHonestly, I don't have any expectations for any disney films this summer. Monsters U I'll go to only because the first one was stellar. But that was 12 years ago. Pixar has gone downhill since then. Iron Man 3 will be bad, I'm thinking. The Marvel cannon has been going backwards, only taking a leap forwards with The Avengers. I'm choosing to not see any superhero film not directed by Christopher Nolan or Joss Whedon.
Posted April 28, 2013 at 6:29 AM
From Dominick DMatt, it's currently 92% on Rotten Tomatoes:
Posted April 28, 2013 at 4:55 PM
From Andrew DoughertyWait, when did it open in previews. And if they did start previews, it's to early to say anything. Most films reviewed this early are often really high. Except for Lords of Salem
Posted April 28, 2013 at 6:35 PM
From Dominick DIt's been out in pretty much every country except America and China since Friday.
Posted April 28, 2013 at 7:37 PM
From Andy MilitoThe things about Rotten Tomatoes is its scoring system. It handles ratings a little inaccurately, IMO. I mean, you can rate a movie 3 out of 5 stars, borderlining the score of a mediocre movie, and it'll still be seen as "Fresh." Looking at the Metacritic score (67) seems more on par, considering their different system.
Posted April 29, 2013 at 2:39 PM
I'm not hating on Iron Man or Rotten Tomatoes. I can't wait to see Iron Man 3 this weekend, and I'll be giddy like a schoolboy when I do. I love being a part of the RT community, and it's my go-to source for finding what critics think. I just think it's not the best way to claim something is spectacular.
Sorry for that little tangent :P
From Andrew Dougherty^I actually totally agree.
Posted April 29, 2013 at 4:06 PM
From Armando ThomasTodays news certainly did not surprise me od Disney and More Blog.
Posted May 21, 2013 at 10:33 AM
From Tyler HarrisNo, im not goin for it. Sorin Around The World is likely. Replacing it with a new ride is a bad idea though.
Posted May 21, 2013 at 1:56 PM
From Manny RodriguezI Don"t think that"ll happen if it does ill protest.
Posted May 22, 2013 at 10:41 AM
From Jorge ArnoldsonNo more stupid movie tie-ins. How about the rumored "Soarin' Over The World" or "Soarin' Over America" ride film? In IMAX 15/70mm, 48 fps format, just like the current ride.
Posted June 8, 2013 at 5:11 PM
From Tyler HarrisJorge is right...ENOUGH TIE-INS DISNEY!
Posted June 9, 2013 at 4:05 AM
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