Of course, the change might make it easier for thousands of other fans to visit Walt Disney World and Disneyland, too.
How so? Disney's barring Disney Vacation Club members from using points that they buy from other DVC members to book nights at Walt Disney World and Disneyland hotels. If you want to book at a Disney World or Disneyland hotel, you have to use points that you bought from DVC, Disney's time-share arm. (Though, of course, Disney will never, ever call it that.)
DVC members can continue to use points bought on the secondary market to book DVC properties at Disney World, as well as vacations at non-theme park DVC properties, such as Disney's Vero Beach facility. And they can book at other properties that participate in DVC's time-share exchange network.
But by taking the "regular" hotel rooms out of the DVC pool, Disney will make it harder for members using "after-market" points to book WDW vacations. They'll have to compete with fellow members for only the rooms available at the DVC resorts, while members using Disney-bought points can book either at the DVC properties or the regular Disney World hotels.
Why would people buy points from other DVC members? 'Cause they're cheaper, that's why. With the collapse of the housing bubble, thousands of DVC members not longer have the home equity cash to spend on stuff like DVC vacations. Others have lost jobs or income, cutting into vacation funds. So they try to recoup a few extra bucks selling their leftover points to others.
If you're wondering, Disney can't ban the resale to others of DVC assets like it can theme park tickets, due to various state real estate laws. But it does give itself the right of first refusal on point resales. And it appears to be within its rights to change the terms under which members can use resold points. (Though I wouldn't be surprised to see someone sue.)
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Having said that, the reality is that this will have very little impact for my travel plans. The point requirements for non-DVC Disney resorts have always been ridiculous and prohibitive, so I never really considered it an option.
The problem with alot of the DVC loopholes and restrictions are most of them are put into place because somebody has figured out how to really abuse the system just like the "free tickets to the parks" DVC perk (yes, it exsisted!)
So all in all, as a DVC family at OKW and AKL, this new rule does not affect us and we really are not worried! We also would likely not stay at a non DVC resort. At WDW, its pretty hard not to! I also really have never had a problem staying at other DVC resorts except during EPCOT's Food and Wine Festival (I mean, who wouldn't want to stay at the Boardwalk or the Beach Club for that!)
Perhaps we got into the DVC really early and the reaping the benefits of early investments, but we think DVC ROCKS!
I don't see how anyone can make an argument that Disney is cheating their timeshare owners by restricting them to use their points at the timeshare properties. You invested in those properties, not the hotels.
That being said, this won't affect people that aren't members buying points from members, will it?
But really, if you are a DVC member, you should be staying at a DVC resort when you go to WDW, simple as that! There are enough DVC resorts that you can stay by any park or area now.
I still call massive abuses to the system as reason for them to crack down on!
I agree that staying anywhere other than a DVC resort was prohibitive, so we never did. That said, we used to use our points for the cruise. The cruises are very expensive and using DVC points was the only way we could afford to go. This may have been a "perk", but it was a perk that was sold to us with our membership and one of the reasons we purchased to begin with. We'll have to think hard about purchasing again in the future.
How is DVC anything but a timeshare? Many other timeshares allow you to stay at many resorts within their system or trade through RCI or II. Now, like most other timeshare operators Disney is now making resale purchasers second class citizens, and the only reason is because they feel that resales are stealing some of their direct sales.
As for abuses, what does this stop? Where owners rushing to pay way too many points to stay in a Disney hotel unit?
I don't know about the free Disney passes, but they included them with the units intially because they though they needed to include them to sell the points at their prices. They stopped when they realized that they can sell the points at the same price without the passes.
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