Where Will Disney Build Star Wars Land? Here's the Map
When Disney CEO Bob Iger announced yesterday that Disney would be building Star Wars-themed lands at its Disneyland and Disney's Hollywood Studios theme parks, fans immediately wanted to know: when, and where?
Disney's not yet provided an answer to the "when?" question, beyond Imagineer Scott Trowbridge's warning that it will take "a while." But late last night, Disneyland confirmed the location of its Star Wars Land in a tweet to a fan:
Building Star Wars Land on the site of Big Thunder Ranch makes sense when you go back a look at some of the comments Iger and others made during their presentations yesterday at the D23 Expo in Anaheim. Iger said that the new planet in the Star Wars canon that will provide the home for Star Wars Land was located on the edge of the frontier and that the project would represent the largest land expansion in Disneyland history.
The Disneyland build site places Star Wars on the edge of the park's Frontierland, and — unless you count a petting zoo and an occasional meet and greet as attractions — represents a true expansion of the park into land not now used for attractions.
The shaded area above, which includes Big Thunder Ranch and the surrounding backstage areas, measures at 14 acres - the size that Iger announced for the land. (*I've updated the map to depict a more compact area for the 14 acres.)
This decision appears to spare Toontown, which some websites had reported definitively would be the site of Star Wars Land. (Others insisted it would consume Tomorrowland.) But the Disneyland Twitter feed last week point-blank denied that Toontown would be the site of Star Wars Land. (*Update: Found the tweet!)
There's an art in public relations to denying something that will happen, but that you haven't yet announced. You want to deny the statement, but not put yourself in the position of having lied once the announcement is made. This is why PR reps say things such as "we have no plans to announce at this time," etc. But Disneyland Today's denial of the Star-Wars-at-Toontown rumor was flat-out.
Now we know why.
Later today, we will look at the possibilities for the build site for Star Wars Land at Disney's Hollywood Studios.
Presumably the thin strip next to Toon Town would be used for one of the e-ticket attractions, which leaves a nicely shaped and spacious size for the majority of the land and the other ride. It doesn't look like if they build up vertically there that they will interfere with the back-drop of other areas, except maybe Tom Sawyer Island.
And that really makes the most sense. Leave Tomorrowland intact. To do otherwise would contradict a major aspect of the park. I hoe that is where they indeed place it.
This answered the where question which I think is more important than the when at this point.
Hmmm, sorry Robert, I disagree. That was not what I'd call a flat-out-denial.
I think it's awesome that we are finally getting the Star Wars Land most people want. However...
Glad that Disney is keeping Toontown.
Please note this is a follow up tweet... I think you are jumping the gun.
There's a an old fashioned train that runs through that area... I wonder how they work that out
Great decision to have Star Wars Land replace Big Thunder Ranch. I always say BTR has a large piece of land just waiting to be turned into a major attraction. However, I do feel like it will be weird to have a Star Wars Land right next to Big Thunder Mountain. I feel like removing Autopia would have made more sense.
Tomorrowland needs a plan. They need to solve the fireworks closure problem. Toontown regularly gets closed at night. Tom Sawyer Island seems underutilized.
I was wondering why they announced all these expansion at the same time? At least Universal puts up walls and doesn't post a word until months into a project. How many people will put off vacations to wait for the new lands?
This just makes no sense at all, thematically speaking. Ride Star Tours in Tomorrowland, then go through either the fairy tale world of Fantasyland or traipse through the old west of Frontierland to get back into outer space? It's just a very odd choice of location, unless they plan on moving Star Tours entirely.
But where will it be at DHS? I fear this announcement all but confirms the demise of the Indiana Jones show.
The Frontierland river takes up such a large area for basically 3 slow moving rides, I remember plans a while ago for Discovery Bay which would have closed the upper part of the river and docked the Mark Twain and made it a restaurant.
"It's just a very odd choice of location, unless they plan on moving that space entirely."
There could be a hidden two part project with the new Star Wars land in Disneyland. If they move Star Tours to the new land it can open up the possibility of bringing the New Iron Man attraction Japan is getting in its place. They did mention that it was a simulator ride similar to Star Tours.
Kenny, I completely agree. And Tomorrowland is definitely in desperate need of some sort of thematic overhaul, especially after they messed it up in 1998, and I'm shocked they haven't done much to resolve that thematic eyesore! And it seems really weird to have two sci-fi themed lands with Fantasyland squished in between the two.
This is awesome news. The best location for Star Wars land would be in the strawberry field kitty corner from California Adventure. That way they could build a platform in Disneyland and transport guests to a "galaxy far far away" that is physically across the street. You could transport guests at light speed to the new land. That way there is an easy themed transportation system to the Star Wars Land. Eventually a Marvel land, pixar land, avatar etc. land could be built in the strawberry field location and a third gate could be created.
I think it's stupid to limit Star Wars to a single land when they have enough material for at least one park. I'd like to see them use the strawberry field, or perhaps partner with Garden Grove - They have plans to build a theme park, and have land set aside to do so. Half for Star Wars, the other half for Marvel.
No mention of Indiana Jones. Disney now has the rights, so will there be more attractions based on the movies? Could Big Thunder Mountain get a major overhaul as a Temple of Doom ride?
RIP Big Thunder Mountain Ranch Barbecue :(
At risk of being a curmudgeon, when--if ever --will they renovate some of the old rides (Jungle River Cruise, Fantasyland rides, etc.) that haven't been updated since they were built 60 years ago, & positively creak in comparison to "newer" rides only, 20-30 years old, like Haunted Mansion, Pirates, & Indiana Jones.
Great news. Everybody always mentioned ToonTown and Tomorrowland as places to destroy to make room for Star Wars. All the while I was saying that they should build on the Big Thunder Mountain Ranch Barbeque, the northern half of Tom Sawyer Island, and the administrative buildings out there. Glad to see they are taking my advice except for the Tom Sawyer Island part. I would be okay with future Star Wars land expansions into Toontown and Tom Sawyer Island. I just think you have to keep Tomorrowland intact and I am happy that they are doing that and are not closing down many existing rides.
Referring Tommorrowland into the Stsr Wars Areaskes more sense. Move the Buzz light year ride to toon town .
I've only been to Disneyland once, and it was quite a few years back, so I don't know the ins and outs of the park as far as theming goes. However, I am really excited about this for the simple fact that it EXPANDS the park's footprint. This is one of those expansions that actually makes the park larger, so I think it's a great idea!
Really glad to see that Toontown is staying. It could be a great land if Disney would pay some attention to it with upgrades and refurbs. Plus the park needs more capacity, not less. I'll be sad to see Big Thunder Ranch go, but the upside to a Star Wars Land mitigates that loss. I imagine the long term thinking is make Tomorrowland into a kind of Marvel land, I would be surprised to see Star Tours become the Iron Man attraction going into Hong Kong DL. The problem with all these goodies going into DL is that DCA is going to be empty again.
Grant Crawford, it's my understanding that Disney purchased some land across the street from the park and they will move the operations you see in those buildings in the photo into new buildings there. A tunnel will be built underneath the street to connect the new sites to the park. Note this isn't 100 confirmed, just what some people said.
I just thought about something else that I haven't seen brought up yet... Are they going to move Star Tours over to the new land. It seems kind of silly that it will still be over in Tomorrowland. The new Star Wars land is obviously where it needs to be now.
I was also trying to wrap my head around how big 14 acres is myself. According to Wikipedia (Here's your grain of salt...) Cars Land at DCA is 12 acres in size. That helps put the scope of the new Star Wars land into clearer perspective for me.
22.214.171.124 - Thanks for that. It seems like it will be a while before Star Wars land makes its way to the West Coast
I think Disney should put one of the new attractions in the Innoventions building and ( try in your heart to not get mad) push Autopia's station more over towards Matterhorn cut the track to go around the jungle area by small world and turn the former Autopia's land into Star Wars Land. Or do the simple thing, get rid of Autopia and BAM way better land and gone with Autopia
In my opinion, Star Tours and Buzz Lightyear should be relocated to Star Wars Land and DCA. Tomorrowland should renvision its concept. I wonder if they could change it to the Tomorrowland... That Never Was and accept that it won't ever capture the future. Should it remain positive or can it have dystopian aspects? It could be overtly positive, but then dominated by an all seeing eye.
Kind of a bummer that they're adding an entirely new "Land," particular when Star Wars is a "futuristic" movie that would fit within Tomorrowland. It disrupts the master plan of the park--Star Wars land will be the only land built on IP, rather than on a overarching concept--and, frankly, cheapens the park's concept. Before it was about ideals, now it's about IP.
I may think differently about this in the end, when it's all built and done, but I currently think that using that space out back is so far out of the thematic flow that it will destroy the Disneyland experience as Most Guests know it now. I really have preferred if they had changed Tommorowland into "Tommorowland Worlds of Star Wars" or something similar and formally re-themened Space Mountain to Star Wars, put a new attraction in the space that now houses the carousel Theater AKA innovention. And Ripped out Autopia and used some of that space. Then fill in the motorboat cruise water and added Mini-Autopia to Fantasyland and re-themed the Nemo subs to the Naboo adventure. I can't imagine the thematic transition to be made either from Fantasyland or BTRR area. It will be Jarring either way I can envision it.
1) "According to a master plan filed with the city, Disney has 3,000,000 square feet of space for California Adventure, but has only used 900,000 (30%). Disneyland has 900,000 square feet unused." So...another park the size of DCA could fit into Disneyland.
I hope they relocate Big Thunder Ranch BBQ somewhere. That is one of the best places to eat at Disneyland. I am not sure how much I really care about Star Wars land. I guess I will have to wait and see. I hope they take this opportunity to include some more thrill rides. I don't think they have any superb thrill rides at any of their parks.
The problem with this "plan" is that half the area in blue it's is is closed when the fireworks are launched. You think they would move the fireworks or close a brand new lands for a few hours each night... Don't think so. Tomorrowland into Autotopia, Innoventions, and Submarine ride makes much more sense. Like everyone says, it is in need of a makeover.
Does anyone remeber WDW saying that "Mickey and Minnie's ToonTown homes will be relocated to another area of the resort" when they were taking out that ToonTown. And we believe them now because......?
They need to get RID OF ToonTown. That's where they should build it. I really enjoy the all you can eat BBQ at Thunder Ranch
Tomorrowland doesn't need to be revamped. It is being subsumed into a temporary Star Wars Land with three Star Wars attractions plus Jedi Academy. Sure, of course it is Sci-Fi Land. Why do you need to call it that? Tomorrowland by definition is already that. It seems like many Disney fans want to fix the flawed Tomorrowland concept with a more apt name. That's the problem. Tomorrowland is no more problematic than any other name. All names evolve. Sci-Fi Land will evolve too. It's always about chasing a tail that will never be caught.
Maybe they should borrow an idea from Back to the Future. Turn Tomorrowland into an empty lot and place a broken time clock there set to 1954. It's as if Disney has yet to break ground in the new land of Tomorrow.
Star Tours should be knocked out and turned into the entrance of the new land. There's plenty of backstage available behind Space Mountain and beyond the berm. Demolish the Carousel Hotel and move hotel trams there. Tons of space for Star Wars, neighbor to Tomorrowland, shared entrance off the Hub, no strange space land just beyond Casey Jr., and no fireworks fallout.
I like the comments people have posted. I'm a long time disneyland nerd and here is my 2 cents.
I wouldn't be surprises if tune town is moves or revamped in some sort of, to be honest its kinda sad that state that area of the park is in. so many things broken or removed , its become rather stale in the past few years. because of the location of space mountain makes it hard but maybe it can stay there as its really the only "tomorrow thing there, but could imagine them moving toontown or rebuilding it where star tours is and then star tours gets revamped and added to the new starters area shown on the map and then maybe finally do something with the people mover and make it go from space mountain to star wars land with speeder like cars instead of the ill fated steampunk thing they tried. thats been sitting there doing nothing forever.
When will Captain EO reopen?
That area shown is still too large. That is roughly 17 acres. If you take out the top building, (which might house the parade vehicles) then you are left with 14 acres.
TOONTOWN IS TINY!!!!!!!!! I worked at the park for years. Toontown DOES serve a VERY specific purpose. The complaint about Toontown was always how tiny it was and not very much to do. To TINY KIDS? It's HUGE. And YES, it IS tiny, so why do people think they can build an entire Star Wars land there?? Also, the main admin building for the resort (Team Anaheim) is connected to Toontown, they won't tear that down. They can easily tear down the storage units and decades-old warehouses north of Big Thunder Ranch and I believe they will. I DO believe Tomorrowland is DISGUSTINGLY lame (I worked there when the '98 "revamp" disaster happened and it's just embarrassing and a friend of mine at the studio told me a YEAR ago about designs for a Marvel "park" near DCA and changing Tomorrowland into Star Wars land. SO MUCH GOSSIP WITH SO MUCH PROOF ON BOTH SIDES, I LOVE IT!!!! And I LOVE how passionate people are about Disneyland!
Star Tours is technically from a long time ago in a Galaxy far, far away which is NOT Tomorrow. It's from the past!
Hmmm...that means Star Wars Land will have a steam locomotive going right thru it! Wonder how imagineering is going to put a story behind that!
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