Who wants the Redhead? Be careful what you wish for, Pirates fans

June 29, 2017, 3:07 PM · Disney is revamping its Pirates of the Caribbean ride yet again, and this time, it's changing the Redhead.

The "star" of the iconic Auction scene in the ride, the Redhead is a buxom young animatronic woman who's next in line to be sold off to a leering collection of drunken pirates, who are heckling the auctioneer trying to sell a "stout-hearted, and corn fed" captive, taunting him with chants of "We wants the redhead!"

The Redhead is staying in a revamp of the scene, which will debut at Disneyland and Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom next year. But instead of waiting to be sold off, this time, she will be doing the "buying," joining the pirates to relieve the people of the Mercado of their possessions.

Annie gets her gun

The redesigned scene will be included in the Disneyland Paris version of the ride, which reopens after an extended refurbishment on July 24. Disneyland Paris' version does not follow the traditional narrative established by the Anaheim original, though it does share several elements with the version familiar to American fans.

Disney has changed the ride several times before, most recently to add Captain Jack Sparrow and Captain Barbossa from the Pirates of the Caribbean films, who will be making their debuts in the revamped Paris version next month, as well. But Disney also previously changed the Pirates rides in the United States to remove (or at least, soften) the insinuation of impending sexual assault in the Chase scene, which follows the Auction in the traditional ride design.

Now, the women being chased by the Pirates are carrying trays of food instead of simply running for the lives. That change also managed to add the sin of gluttony to the ride, allowing the pirates to check off another one of the Seven Deadly Sins in their adventures.

Let's face it. There's no way in Hades that the original version of this ride would get green-lit for production today. The skeletons, naval battle, burning city, and even the water torture are probably good to go in a modern corporate decision-making environment, but the whimsical depiction of human trafficking and sexual assault are definite proposal killers among any non-psychopathic corporate executives.

The assault scene got its tray of food to address that problem, and now the Redhead's getting a gun to address the other, too. (I am now proposing that in honor of her getting a gun, the Redhead be dubbed by the Disney fan community as "Annie.")

So long as Disney doesn't change the way the ride smells, though, I'm good. What do you think of the changes coming to Pirates of the Caribbean?

Replies (60)

June 29, 2017 at 3:39 PM · I'm still irritated about the addition of Jack Sparrow, so you can imagine what I think of this latest change. The original was fine.... But, yes, changing the smell would be the ultimate betrayal :-)
June 29, 2017 at 4:03 PM · This is terrible.
June 29, 2017 at 4:04 PM · "Non-psychopathic corporate executives"? Do they really exist?
June 29, 2017 at 4:06 PM · I don't have a problem with this.
June 29, 2017 at 4:09 PM · We should just axe the entire Adventureland then
June 29, 2017 at 4:20 PM · As I said, be careful what you wish for....
June 30, 2017 at 10:36 PM · These changes remind me of those made by the Treasure Island casino in Las Vegas to their free pirate battle show on the Las Vegas Strip.

Originally a Disney or Universal Studios-style show with pirate ship battling a British Navy vessel with great stunts and a sinking British ship, the new T.I. decided to be more hip and redesigned it as a nighttime only show with female sirens seducing pirates.

It was a terrible idea, and closed within a year. Not saying that the same will happen with Disney's Pirates, but the moral of the story is: if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.

Video of original show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMZ2YOFZ2Rs

Video of Sirens show:

June 29, 2017 at 4:49 PM · The nostalgic part in me is a little disappointed, but when my 4 and 6 year old asked me to explain this scene in January, I was a bit stumped. Some concepts aren't appropriate for kids, and nostalgia shouldn't blind is from this
June 29, 2017 at 5:22 PM · I think its amazing! Wall street got Fearless Girl, Wonder Woman was a huge hit, the star of the new Pandora boat ride is the female Shaman of Songs, now this change-- lets keep it going in Disney and beyond! Its time for a whole new way of thinking for our daughters.
June 29, 2017 at 5:31 PM · The edgie parts are slowly being replaced. I thought the chasing food scene isn't a good substitute for chasing women. How about chasing something often shown in the movies like an valuable treasure, a supernatural piece, Davy Jones' heart, or a bottle of rum.

The new scene makes no sense. Do something different. Auction an object with some red coat prisoners and Union Jacks flying about.

June 29, 2017 at 5:40 PM · Soon the Red Head will have white hair and the skeletons become snowmen. FROZEN of Arendele Christmas overlay. Best of both worlds. Let It Go.
June 29, 2017 at 5:45 PM · It's a tough call, really. Do we get rid of the torture/well-drowning scene next? That's actually quite twisted, if you think about it.

On the other hand, as a parent with young children, do I really want a representation of violent invaders capturing and selling off women? And seeing the humour of those men disparaging the "fat one" while calling for the "sexy one" for sale?

In the end, its a family ride, for a family audience. Were I to suggest an accurate, historical, representation of pirate behavior, we would require lots more violence and animatronic non-consensual carnal activity.

That's absurd, leaving me to figure the line of acceptability lies somewhere between the accurate-horrible and the diluted-bland. Between the horrific reality of pirates and the adventurous thrills of pirate lore.

So, it seems, modern sensibilities have changed, and I guess the pirates will have to change with them, to fall in with where that line sits. I think I will miss the blissful ignorance of enjoying such scenes more than I will miss the actual scenes themselves.

June 29, 2017 at 6:00 PM · I don't mind Disney changing it up. Keeps things fresh, new things to see.
June 29, 2017 at 6:56 PM · Sometimes you log onto a website and say, "actually, depictions of implied sexual assault at a theme park are good."

Those are bad days for you as a human being. Just remember that.

June 29, 2017 at 7:20 PM · Nobody said that Jacob. I am not surprised the scene is finally being changed, but they could have found a better way to do it. Maybe they should have changed it so the pirates were looking for dates. As is, the best line of the ride is going away. That line could be kept if they just lightened the tone of what the pirates were doing instead of totally changing the scene.
June 29, 2017 at 8:11 PM · I'm fine with the changes. Just change the ride name from Pirates to Political Correctness of the Caribbean and we're good.
June 29, 2017 at 8:37 PM · I give up...I just give up. These are Pirates they do horrible things. It comes with the territory.
So do we now change the Primeval World scene on the RR because it would upset some "young earthers"? Do we change the Haunted Mansion stretch room hanging ghost scene because of concerns over suicide prevention? Do we close the Snow White ride because it's a bad depiction of a woman unable to help herself in this enlightened Era of feminism? Do we close the Little Mermaid ride because the villain is called a sea witch when Wiccans might feel Harassed? Do we close the Hall of Presidents because some of these men of long ago were slave holders? Do we close the Buzz Lightyear blaster ride because the zappers look too much like guns in response to gun Violence?
Political correctness is getting out of control. To quote Walt Kelley's POGO..."We have met the enemy, and he am us!"
June 29, 2017 at 8:46 PM · If they can fix the classic Pirates attraction and Tower of Terror, why can't they put Tomorrowland out of it's misery? Looking ugly for 19 years.
June 29, 2017 at 8:48 PM · Since when did it become wrong to enjoy a little dark humor now and then? When all's said and done, you're just watching a bunch of singing dolls.
June 29, 2017 at 9:01 PM · Um we're going to change this historical fact , but let a sexist, racist, mysoginist, nativist, tyrant speak at the hall of presidents? That's the real problem.
June 29, 2017 at 10:29 PM · pinocio, also has human slavery. what is the difference, exactly? It's ok, if the victim is a male? or. maybe people can agree, that it is bad, in either case, and the people doing the buying are the villians.

and keep the scene, as is. as someone else, strongly hinted, trader sam, and the bar, have to close too. if, we are serious, about the morality of it all, and having strict morality, trump entertainment.

there have also, been scenes victimizing women in the pirates films and other disney movies.

i'm not seeing much consistency

June 29, 2017 at 11:07 PM · Based on what I've seen/read so far, I'm reserving judgement until I see it in action. I've seen people on other sites say that the pirates seem to be auctioning off furniture, but I think your take on it is more accurate -- they're relieving people of their possessions (and the Redhead with the gun seems to imply "give us your stuff...or else").

It might end up working well. Or I may end up disappointed (either way, I will always remember the auction scene fondly). But until I see how it actually turns out, it's too soon for me to express either joy or outrage (or something in between). On one hand, an iconic scene is being changed. On the other hand, selling women off to the highest bidder isn't exactly a good thing (and no, the attraction has NEVER been fully historically accurate, so that argument doesn't enter into it).

I'm in "wait and see" mode.

June 29, 2017 at 11:10 PM · until, they dropped this bombshell, disney had it made. attendance, so high, they had to turn people away on some nights.

with this news, they are going to manage to offend a decent percentage of their customers, either way. odd, they would want to open, this hornet's nest. Am i being offensive to bees, saying that? I apologize to the bee's.

why don't they just not make any immediate changes, and announce plans soon to import the version from China.

I think, that would be one overseas import, everyone would applaud. I believe, the criminality in that version is limited to male on male violence.

June 30, 2017 at 12:09 AM · More political correctness gone insane. So the pirates are running a Sotheby's auction now? The new scene will make little sense, and be boring, besides. Boy scouts of the carribean, indeed.

When I saw the headline (on another site) "Massive Changes to Pirates Ride", I hoped that they would put in some effects similar to Shanghai Pirates. No such luck. All we get is more watering down of a great attraction, I guess because some people are offended. Some people make a career out of being chronically offended.

June 30, 2017 at 12:20 AM · The two paragraphs immediately below are not my ideas, so I will credit @21royalstreet and @scottrenshaw.

The cavern narration in the original DL Pirates made it clear that what we just saw (the pirate skeletons in the first 1/3 of the ride after the drops) was the pirates' punishment for their misdeeds.
The whole moral of the ride has been lost because of the additions from the 2000s era movies (most prominently Jack Sparrow changing the narrative of the ride). The message that, "yeah, the pirates sure do seem to be having fun, but boy are they in trouble because they’re horrible people" is lost (because of the change in narrative).

As in the world of cinema, people increasingly struggle with the idea of "depiction does not equal endorsement," that is, Disney including the auction scene or the pirates chasing women scene does not mean that Disney says such behavior is acceptable.

Here are my questions: Do you as a parent feel that your child should not be seeing depictions of such scenes because it will result in uncomfortable questions or discussion? Why not have an honest discussion with your children (when you feel they understand what is going on in the scenes) to tell them that such behavior is not acceptable?

Is the reason it is necessary to change the scenes in 2017 because in the 1960s and 70s such behavior was more acceptable to American society than it is today? Did children and young adults leave the ride in the 1970s with the wrong idea of how men and women should behave toward each other? Does watching the auction scene contribute to boys and girls growing up into men and women who think that women should be objectified, and women can be bought and sold like property?

Or did what was going on in those scenes just go over their heads with no lasting harm done?

June 30, 2017 at 12:37 AM · My problem with this change is less about the change itself and more about the way Disney continues to treat this attraction. As good as the ride is, Pirates of the Caribbean just isn't a ride that really works in the modern world. There are certainly some good elements to it, but probably 1/3 of the scenes are questionable for a family environment and if it wasn't for the films the attraction would likely be passed over by a majority of today's visitors. However, by changing only small portions of the ride, it has resulted in a disjointed attraction with a series of tonally inconsistent scenes and an incoherent story. I would much rather Disney just shut the ride down for a year and give it a complete overhaul, revising everything at once and creating a new version of the ride that remains true to the original yet is appealing to modern audiences. There's no telling for sure, but I would be incredible surprised if this is the last change the attraction sees.
June 30, 2017 at 1:43 AM · Bunch of women tied up and about to be auctioned off and raped.
Good riddance.

I agree with AJ Hummel, just take the entire ride down for a year to fix the story (hurt by the shoehorning of Sparrow) and scenes, and add new effects and other cool stuff.

June 30, 2017 at 2:56 AM · I can't stand this PC culture anymore. "We wants the redhead" is a pivotal line in the pirates ride, they already changed the one in Disney World so that there's no skull and bones saying "dead men tell no tales". This ride will very soon lose what made it special. if you have children that ask about it, why not inform them about history? Why not use the ride to open a dialogue about what pirates did; use that line to inform them of the subjugation and oppression that women have faced throughout the decades, and how it relates to what we face today? Even a three year old would understand if you simply said "women used to be treated like things that you could buy in a store, they weren't treated with the respect they deserve, and that wasn't ok." We can't change history, we can only learn from it. When we laugh at the darkness, we tend to become stronger, and it gets brighter. As a woman, I don't want them to brush aside how we have been treated historically. That's like discounting all of the hard work brave women and men did to get us where we are today, and that which is currently being done for our equality.
June 30, 2017 at 4:10 AM · As it is, the scene is not accurate because there were no "marriages" going on in reality.
The auction thing is pretty problematic considering US history. In the 50s there was a lot said and done that really disregarded the experiences of many people. Changing things from the 50s (65 years later) really isn't political correctness gone wild. There are a lot of things from the 50s that wouldn't get approved for children's entertainment today. There are plenty of venues for adults to enjoy any type of dark humor they want, but Disneyland is marketed as a family friendly place for kids including toddlers.
June 30, 2017 at 6:02 AM · I never understood Disney's glorification of pirates to start with. Now, what, we're trying slowing tamp down on their bad side over the years? At Disney, the girls can be princesses and the boys can be pirates (rum swilling, woman chasing, murdering thugs). All in good fun or not so much?
June 30, 2017 at 6:41 AM · They are pirates for goodness sake! This is a slippery slope. How can you take out human trafficking and leave the burning and pillaging of a city? These are thieves and murderers. Think on that. If they want to sanitize the ride, they will need to remove it completely. The opening message of the ride with the dead pirates, and "dead men tell no tales" is meant to show what the evil of piracy will lead to, so there is a moral to the story. If you think the redhead scene was somehow the unique thing that showed some really evil stuff, then you better check yourself, because the entire city portion of the ride is some really evil stuff. Careful what you wish for.
June 30, 2017 at 7:22 AM · Maybe it is just me, but I never thought the Redhead was a sad victim in this darkly humorous scene. I always thought she knew that she was driving the pirates wild and she LOVED IT.

Part of the reason why it is a humorous scene is because it is so wrong.

Then again, they might be able to keep most of the script which was my favorite part:

"Shift your cargo baby...no need to show off your superstructure!"

"We want the Redhead!"

And yes, I know that those are wrong too! :)

June 30, 2017 at 9:47 AM · AJ is correct that "Pirates" was in a different time. I know folks love to talk about the "Western River Expedition" but that was going to show Indians as literally red-skinned with giant noses doing rain dances and scalping. Just imagine the reaction to THAT one today. Even as a kid, I admit a tad troubled by the whole "Auction of women" bit as it may be classic but let's face it, a lot of "classic" stuff of the past doesn't translate well today.

Plus, let's not forget, there really were female pirates so this does make sense and I'll reserve judgement until we see it.

June 30, 2017 at 10:44 AM · Why are the townspeople in this Spanish colonial town dressed like French Aristocracy?
June 30, 2017 at 10:48 AM · What possible need would the average pirate have for a chandelier or a grandfather clock? And why would a pirate auctioneer even bother trying to sell such items to fellow pirates?
June 30, 2017 at 10:50 AM · Why does the concept art for this have to be so terrible? It looks like they traced over a photo of the scene then made changes? They couldn't hire someone who knows how to draw? Marc's original drawings had so much life and personality in them. This feels stale.
June 30, 2017 at 3:42 PM · So maybe in the next iteration of the ride, the characters may sit and gently discuss their transactions, just like bankers. Being so politically correct is absolutely lame.
June 30, 2017 at 4:45 PM · Spaceman Spiff, are you seriously suggesting I should sit down with my 4 year old daughter and explain how pirates were bad and would rape women and auction them off as slaves??? I'm all for educating my kids but that's a discussion for when they're much older and are able to comprehend these stories and the message I'm giving.

June 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM · It's ashamed. The "auction a bride" redhead scene is one of my favorites in all the pirate rides! Ugh, I guess we'll see how the new scene will turn out.
June 30, 2017 at 10:32 PM · grant crawford: Here is what I wrote earlier:

Do you as a parent feel that your child should not be seeing depictions of such scenes because it will result in uncomfortable questions or discussion? Why not have an honest discussion with your children (when you feel they understand what is going on in the scenes) to tell them that such behavior is not acceptable?

Or did what was going on in those scenes just go over their heads with no lasting harm done?

If you feel your 4 year old is old enough to understand what is going on, then you might think about having an honest discussion with her. If not, wait until she is old enough. But I suspect that most of what is going on in these scenes are going over young people's heads. They know something not right is going on. It's not right to sell other people. But that's as much as they really care about. Your family's mileage may differ.

July 1, 2017 at 12:57 AM · This is all quite useless when Disney recently started selling shirts specifically with the 'we wants the redhead!' part of the ride on t-shirts. I saw umpteen men wearing them on my recent trip in May. They don't care about the message it sends. They really don't.
July 1, 2017 at 6:02 AM · I understand your point, but the issue I find is that this is primarily a kids park. Maybe it was once OK to have this content with kids. Today though, it really isn't.

The difficulty is that in a lack of understanding of what is going on, kids interpret things in unusual ways. I'm not about to make up a story about what's going on (ie - lie) to appease my kids interest, and they're too young for me to explain what's going on. So maybe the message that they get is that it is ok to auction people, or make lewd comments about women.

The arguments posted here against changing it seem to fall into 2 categories. Firstly is that it messes with the narrative and the original ride. This may be the case, but I think the introduction of Jack Sparrow did this in a far worse way. Rehashing the whole ride (as suggested) is a possible idea, but overhauling such an immensely popular and iconic ride like that is risky.

The other argument here is that its always been this way, its great, never offended me and that changing it is "political correctness". This is almost always a poor argument (occasionally political correctness does get in the way of rational thought though). Change is inevitable, and generally for the better. It was political correctness gone mad that allowed women to vote and that freed slaves. While I don't put POTC in the same class as these events, this part of the ride clearly does not belong in a kids park, particularly today. Changing it for something more suitable, as much as we will miss the original, is for the better.

Han did shoot first though.

July 1, 2017 at 9:37 AM · You know what happens when you try to erase the past and act like it didn't happen........
July 1, 2017 at 9:48 AM · Funny how 50 years and no complaints. Suddenly they are changing it and people discover that it's offensive lol.
July 1, 2017 at 11:57 AM · Selling women at auction is not okay, but looting, burning, torturing, shooting at each other, etc. is okay? And all the skeletons certainly hint that people were murdered.

If we're going down that route, they'll end up shutting this classic ride down. Hello, people, they're PIRATES.

July 1, 2017 at 12:26 PM · An excellent example of political correctness gone amuck!
July 1, 2017 at 1:45 PM · Next thing you know, they'll be sanitizing/censoring Walt's classic movies. Children are kidnapped in Pinochio. Oh, that's disturbing, just take it out. Tinkerbell tries to get character bumped off. Oh, let's censor it, make her more nicey nice. Walt, the great storyteller, didn't know what he was doing anyway.
July 1, 2017 at 3:39 PM · While the idea of change to reflect current social mores is one way of looking at it, changing this scene will also eliminate one bit of nostalgia and a sort of memorial. Th line, "We wants the redhead!" was recorded for Disney by the late Mark Lewis, an exceptional storyteller and entertainer. If that line goes, so does a bit of Mark.
July 1, 2017 at 4:01 PM · As my 8 year old grandson said, "They are pirates."
July 1, 2017 at 4:44 PM · I have the perfect solution. Keep the scene with a few changes. Remove the Auction banner. Change one or two women into male prisoners. Turn the fat woman into the Captain's wife. The Redhead is a Madam of a brothel (or implied). Change the chase scene to tie into the previous scene by having the Pirates chase after the villagers, male or female, who might have valuable treasures. What's lost with the changes is the villainy of the Pirates. Introducing a female pirate is too politically correct and can't be explained to anyone's satisfaction. They changed the original chase scene that ruined the original context of the auction scene. A bridal auction didn't imply rape because the subsequent chase showed they weren't caught. These scene changes can't be done in isolation. The attraction lost it's edge and narrative. Jack Sparrow is more a minus than a plus. Fix the whole thing or not at all.
July 1, 2017 at 7:00 PM · For all those who are complaining about "PC changes" to POC, here's a thought. Real pirates were a big part of the slave trade. So would you be OK with having a slave auction in the attraction? If not, then why are you OK with them auctioning off women to be sold as (most likely) sex slaves?
July 1, 2017 at 8:16 PM · That's the way it was by changing the ride you don't change history. For those who have young kids who ask why explain to them how things were back then. Tell them how we have gotten a lot better. Pirates were bad people.
July 2, 2017 at 8:28 AM · I would be totally ok with a slave auction if it fit the story and what the original imagineers intended. Disneyland was dedicated to the "hard facts" that made America so it would certainly align with Walt's vision.

Grant I think you can just not ride if you feel it is so inappropriate your kids. That's generally what parents do isn't it?

July 2, 2017 at 4:17 AM · The future of the Pirates ride is happening right now in Shanghai. Once you've experienced or seen that version there's no going back. I say gut the experience at WDW and DLR and upgrade to 2.0. Sure the folks who want the parks to be a museum will whine and moan, but the general public (those who make up the vast majority of the park's attendance) will love the change. Besides, for the museum lovers, parts of the original Walt attraction can be made into an exhibit in the Walt Disney Family Museum where it can be preserved (in its conceptually original walkthru form) for all time (or at least until this morally, socially, and fiscally bankrupt world blows itself up).
July 2, 2017 at 5:53 AM · Get rid of Jack Sparrow! Why make changes?
July 2, 2017 at 6:37 AM · Has anyone noticed that kast week's press release about changes to the Pirates of the Caribbean attractions include all the parks that Disney Corp has direct control over? The Paris version will be changed first, and then Anaheim and Orlando in early 2018. (The Shanghai version is really a Pirates 2.0, and doesn't follow the narrative of the classic attraction).

There are four incarnations of the classic version of the attraction, the fourth (third built, chronologically) is at Tokyo Disneyland, and yesterday's press release did not mention the Tokyo version.

Why not? Tokyo Disneyland is owned by Oriental Land Company, which has final say over changes to the park. If they do not want to make changes to their version of pirates, they don't, pure and simple. By mid 2018, the only classic version of the ride that doesn't have PC-mandated changes ordered by Disney corporate will be in Japan. (Too bad some of the dialogue is in Japanese, as are other classic attractions like Country Bear Jamboree and the Haunted Mansion.)

Here's a video of the Tokyo version from Attractions 360:

After watching the video, here are some observations:

1) The ride is 90% in English, except for the talking skull before the drop.

2) Jack Sparrow is prominent in the ride.

3) BUT the Pirates are still chasing women in the looting scene, not women carrying trays of food. And one has no reason to think they will change the auction scene, either.

July 2, 2017 at 6:59 AM · I object to changing things only to make them more politically correct...that having been said, if Disney is going to go ahead and change that scene, then why not go for broke and modernize the ENTIRE ride. Rip all the old shiny faced animatronic characters out in favour of a ride more similar to the one now in Shanghai Disneyland.

Purists often complain about change merely because they have a "that's how it's always been" mentality, or this is the ride that Walt created. The truth is that Walt Disney was all about innovation and advancement of technology. Had he lived to today he'd be the first to say rip out all the old in favour of the new. Pirates was awesome in it's day, fascinating kids of all ages, and it matched the pirate films of the day. But now, if I were 7 years old, had watched any of the new Pirates movies and went to Disneyland or Disneyworld filled with excitement to ride that ride, I would be extremely disappointed with the clockwork characters and old Hollywood sets.

Essentially Pirates is now just a ride for families to go on to get out of the Florida or California sun for a bit and savour the air conditioning and nostalgia. Shanghai's version captures all the excitement of the modern pirates lore and thrills today's audiences with the magic of what Imagineers can do without their hands tied to the history of the parks.

Walt didn't want things to stand still in time, he always pushed the boundaries of storytelling and technology. We should take the shackles off of the Imagineers and let them do their thing.

The Hall of Presidents, Carousel of Progress and the American Adventure are the perfect places to celebrate Disney's long history of animatronic prowess, but with an attraction that is supposed to be filled with excitement, action and adventure, a light boat ride really doesn't cut it anymore.

July 3, 2017 at 6:26 AM · Who doesn't want to think of violent sexual assault while at a theme park!
July 4, 2017 at 10:00 AM · For as long as I remember visiting Disneyland, when I rode Pirates, I thought of the auction scene has the women being forced to get married against their will. Rape, sexual assault, etc never entered my mind. I would imagine the same is true for most kids doing the past 50 years that the attraction has been open, as well as today.
July 4, 2017 at 12:24 PM · As I understood it when I was a child riding Pirates, the the 1st few scenes were of the cursed pirates who had done something wrong, they were stuck as skeletons and could never enjoy anything again. Which was obviously drinking, looting, hoarding, killing, etc. So the rest of the ride was examples of all their bad behavior which is why they were cursed. I totally got it that attacking innocents, robbing, fighting, selling women, burning down the city, etc. was wrong. As for that little ditty they sing, it was because they didn't care how bad they acted or who they hurt; they were pirates for goodness sake. After that, the impression it made on me was such that I did not want to play at being a pirate anymore.
Our community sensibilities have changed and I certainly don't see people, and parents in particular, reacting the same way mine did. If you did something wrong there were consequences it didn't matter if you got caught or not, karma would work against you.
I spend far to much time inter-acting with people who figure that as long as you don't get caught its alright to do what you want no matter who gets hurt, disappointed or upset. In other words they are acting like pirates, we just use other words to describe that behavior. I would rather think of POTC as a learning/teaching experience complete with all of the objectionable scenes.
The addition of Jack Sparrow just glamorized the pirate and made him a hero figure. Children need to be reminded that real pirates were a bad lot and in the end they didn't gain anything, but rather lost their freedom and lives.
Removing the "objectionable" scenes as they have done over the years has taken away from the original concept. Remember Walt Disney wanted to entertain as well as teach and what better way to show how bad pirates were then to put their bad behavior on display. In a slightly sanitized version of course.

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