Does Disney's latest patent show the Guardians of the Galaxy coaster?
Disney has filed a patent application for a new ride system that combines an inverted coaster or track ride with a pendulum ride. Designed to "achieve [a] completely new and unique sensation of swinging on a web or vine," is this just another "blue sky" concept from Walt Disney Imagineering, or might it reveal the plans for a new Disney attraction soon to be under construction?
Richard Bilbao at the Orlando Business Journal first found the Disney's patent application, which was filed yesterday. Titled, "Track-based swing ride with long arm pendulum," you can find the complete patent application on the US Patent and Trademark Organization's website.
Here's the abstract:
A track-based swing ride system providing passengers a unique swinging ride experience. The ride system includes a ride track that supports a moving bogie coupled to the ride track that includes a drive assembly driving the bogie along a ride path defined by the ride track. The ride apparatus includes a pendulum arm pivotally coupled at a first end to the bogie, whereby the pendulum arm is suspended below the ride track and moves along the ride path with the bogie. The ride apparatus includes a passenger vehicle coupled to a second end of the pendulum arm opposite the first end of the pendulum arm. To provide the swinging sensation, the ride apparatus includes a roll driver rotating, concurrently with the drive assembly of the bogie, the pendulum arm about a roll axis extending through the first end of the pendulum arm.
The application later states, "The new ride system provides coordinated motion between forward speed of the ride vehicle and the roll angle (as measured between the longitudinal axis of the pendulum arm and vertical). This allows the ride program used or run by a ride controller to be written and/or configured so as to achieve completely new and unique sensation of swinging on a web or vine as the ride system moves passengers through a show provided in the ride space along the track (with the show including physical sets, projection, or a combination of both)."
Here's what the ride's swing path and track path would look like, in a hypothetical installation:
The description of "swinging on a web or vine" brings to mind Spider-Man or Tarzan, but could that be a misdirection? Because the motion of this proposed ride system sounds very much like what was described to me to be the motion of the ride vehicles on the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy roller coaster at Epcot.
That coaster is supposed to have a swinging sensation that was described to me as the "way-grown-up version" of the swaying cars on the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. This proposed ride system would deliver that, and then some, providing a wild ride, careening through physical space.
Just like the often-out-of-control Guardians of the Galaxy, no?
What do you think? Would you like to go on this ride system? And how would like to see Disney apply it?
Could be or more likely, Disney is getting this down so they can get to it first before Universal or Six Flags. Does look very cool and can't wait to see which ride it ends up being attached to.
Sounds like Spider-Man
Could it be California Adventures’ Spiderman? Will this be a practical effects ride instead of screens. You can’t exactly watch a video while swinging.
Looks like a derivative of the Arrow Suspended Coasters replacing the shocks with a counter weight. Based on the schematic, it appears that the swinging motion will be completely based upon the roll of the track and the speed of the train (pure physics), not independently controlled by motors or guide tracks to drive a show-based narrative like Gringott's or Forbidden Journey. I'm a little surprised this is such a low-tech system, and very curious as to which major coaster manufacturer they'll be working with on this (7DMT was with Vekoma, which has worked on many other Disney projects too including Everest and RnRC). Maintenance on that roll axle is going to be expensive. If you've ridden 7DMT, you'll know that the cars don't really swing that much, so it probably only requires a quick inspection and some grease. However, if these cars swing as much as depicted, and really do provide the feeling of swinging between trees or buildings, that axle is going to be under some serious force, which will require a lot of attention. That's why the Arrow Suspended coasters fell out of favor, because maintenance costs were far greater than the popularity of the rides.
As Russell says, "why not both?" Guardians in Epcot and Spider-Man later in DCA?
Hasn’t work already begun on Guardians at Epcot? Seems a little late for a patent, no?
I would hate that ride system. It is exactly the kind of divisive, "for the kids" kind of ride that Disneyland is supposed to eschew. That's what made Disneyland Disneyland. I'm so sad that future generations won't know the kind of place I grew up with, the kind of place that made Disneyland legendary. Now it's a mall with some rides that are marketing gimmicks for its movies.
Russell: That’s not video. That’s simulated effects using video. You can’t use videos to tell the story as in the Harry Potter Gringotts ride where the coaster actually had to pause to show the storyline. I can imagine the swing chairs going faster sideways than Space Mountain going forward for Ghost Galaxy and Star Wars. Everything will just be a blur.
The overhead schematic makes it look more like a black box ride like Peter Pan's Flight. I see no indication of elevation changes needed to be a full blow coaster. But the swinging motion would be cool if it was a Spiderman/ Ironman Ride? THey already have Guardians ride up and running in California Adventure so I would assume this would be for another property. But this is also a combination of speculation and wishful thinking.
I thought I'd read that Guardians at EPCOT is a launched coaster into a ten story high building? If so then this patent won't fit that model or space at all.....
One HUUUUUGE problem here. The patent clearly states it a "powered bogie" that moves along a "flat track" with "unbanked turns". This is a dark ride, people! Not to mention that the only rumor it kinda matches is the one where it'll tilt like Seven Dwarfs. It won't launch, and it doesn't have the building behind Wonders of Life, it's not a coaster in any stretch of the word, AND they wouldn't be patenting the thing at this late stage. I tend to buy that launched coaster rumor because it's basically the resurrected ride rumor for what was going to go into Spaceship Earth the last time Epcot was allegedly getting a bunch of new attractions. You know how Disney doesn't ever let a ride idea fully die.
Could it be a monsters Inc door ride
I always thought that a good idea for a simulator ride would be a Star Tours type simulator mounted on a roller coaster track. The simulator would go through it's paces, but be also moving along the track. People would still be enclosed inside the simulator. It wouldn't have to be a very big coaster, just enough to add an additional dimension to the movement.
It looks cool but there is a reason there aren't a ton of swinging coasters in the world and that's because of the huge stress on the wheels and the track. It's very expansive and one of the reasons the tracks on 7DMT in the corners tilts to minimise the stress during the swing (and due to that doesn't make the ride as special as it could have been).
I don't really see how this will be a coaster or free swinging. Doesn't the patent say "drive" for the track and pendulum? I guessed it was an overhead dark ride (ET) mixed with an S&S Screamin Swing.
"Swinging on a web or vine"- that sounds more like a Spider-Man themed attraction to me. Is Disney coming up a Spider-Man ride as part of their Marvel plans at DCA!?
Speeder bikes at Endor!!! Bye bye Autopia.
I'm pretty confident this isn't for Guardians considering it isn't an actual roller coaster. Based on the abstract, this sounds like a slow moving dark ride with the seats on the end of a pendulum arm. My expectation is that Guardians will be similar to Tron, but with a different layout and train design. Meanwhile, there is a Spider-Man ride under development for DCA's Marvel area, and this looks like the perfect fit for such a ride. A patent doesn't mean it's happening, of course, but I'd say that application seems far more plausible.
AJ, that's right. Disney did say that "Guardians of the Galaxy will be joined by Spider-Man and the Avengers." I'm just curious when it will open and when more details will be announced.
I wish Disney luck with finding a way to create a better ride based on Spider-Man than what opened almost 20 years ago at Universal's Islands of Adventure. The Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man continues to rank among the best dark rides in the world. Even other rides that have utilized the technology created for Spider-Man are not constantly ranked as favorably.
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