What Happened to the Diamond Horseshoe?

Walt Disney World: Why did that restaurant and show close down?

From Bruce Morgan
Posted October 13, 2005 at 11:52 AM
My family and I spent last weekend at Disney World and spent all day Sunday at the Magic Kingdom. The crowd wasn't that bad at all, and we were able to ride almost all of our favorite rides.

I have a question concerning the Diamond Horseshoe Saloon in Frontierland. Why did that restaurant and show close down? Now it's being used for the characters Jessie and Woody. Now I like Woody and Jessie as good as the next person does, but why did Disney have the bright idea of closing down this great restaurant and show? It was perfect in my opinion. i miss it.I don't think I ever ate anything there besides a cup of ice cream, but the show was really good.

One last thing: if you get a chance to eat at the Liberty Tree Tavern, go for it. My wife and I ate there for the second time this year, and we'll be going back for more. We have only one more restaurant to try: the Castle. No telling when that will take place!!

From Anthony Murphy
Posted October 13, 2005 at 12:23 PM
Yeah, I remember a show there! Do they still serve ice cream (I believe it was fried, making it unique to all of Disney World)

From Bruce Morgan
Posted October 14, 2005 at 9:29 PM
Nothing's there now at the Diamond Horseshoe but Woody, Jessie, and I have seen the Jessie's horse. It's really nice inside, good atomsphere. No ice cream, drinks, or other food whatsoever. This is sad.

From Robert Niles
Posted October 15, 2005 at 12:33 PM
My one, and to date only, day in the food service industry was spent slapping together sandwiches and pouring drinks behind the counter at the Shoe.

The Diamond Horseshoe Jamoboree was a *very* labor-intensive live musical stage show production with limited guest capacity. Visitors had to grab reservations first thing in the morning on Main Street, or else wait in a hours-long standby line for the few seats left by no-shows. Four shows a day ran, from late morning to late afternoon, with waiters and waitresses serving a selection of cold sandwiches and drinks.

The income from the food service rarely covered the cost of the labor, much less the performers. (Attractions personnel staffed the Shoe, not food, which is why I got called over to cover a short shift one day.) So why did this show last as long as it did?

'Cause Dick Nunis loved it. Just as Walt loved the original Golden Horseshoe show at Disneyland. Senior-level Disney managers loved to hang out at the Show, flirting with the Attractions hostesses who waited the tables (which is why the location was staffed by Attractions and not Foods, in case you wondered about that.)

Once Walt's buddies retired from the company, the new crew of managers preferred spending their time in their offices with their spreadsheets, and not chatting up cuties at the Shoe. When these new managers thought about the place, they saw instead a massive expense for fewer than 1,000 guests a day, not a fun hang-out in the park.

*That* is why there's no more show or service at the Shoe.

From Bruce Morgan
Posted October 18, 2005 at 2:38 PM
I appreciate the excellent response. Fortunately, I was able to catch the show a couple of times. I liked to think of it as a mini-Hoop de do Dinner Show.

Do you think something could be done with the building besides a place for character autographs? I realize that the size of the Saloon limits what can be done there, but I'm wondering if it could be turned into a small restaurant that serves sandwiches, soup, and salads, like the small restaurant you find as your leaving Main Street going into Tomorrowland. A show wouldn't be necessary, and the characters could be kept. Certainly, Disney could afford having a small restaurant there without the entertainment.

If you think about it, there's only Pescos Bill and Liberty Tree on that side of the Park. A small restaurant may attract some folks who don't want hamburgers or who can't afford Liberty Tree.

From Joe Lane
Posted October 19, 2005 at 6:17 PM
Well, for a brief while, when the Diamond Horseshoe ceased, the spot was home to Goofy's Country Dancing Jamboree (or something to that effect). The show featured Goofy, Pluto, Chip & Dale and Woody and Jessie. The floor was open and the little kids were encouraged to dance, mostly line dancing and the such.

No food was served, either. The bar was decorated with cheap wood cut-outs of Disney characters around hay bales.

I think that, ultimately, with the popularity of Toy Story, and an entire attraction dedicated to Buzz Lightyear, it only seemed fair to dedicate something to Woody at MK. I guess management figured a Meet & Greet with their popular characters had more value than a full-show (and less money towards entertainment).

From Robert Niles
Posted October 19, 2005 at 8:05 PM
After the Golden Horseshoe bit the dust here at Disneyland, for a while Disney installed a "Woody's Round-Up" show. The conceit was that we, the audience, were watching a live broadcast of the Woody's Round-Up TV show from Toy Story 2. Indeed, the sets and characters were all black-and-white while "the show" was playing, and color for when they were "off the air." Granted, the theme didn't quite fit in Frontierland. (But it would have been spot-on in a retro Hollywood Blvd. at DCA. Hellooooo Disney!) But the show was immensely enjoyable and I was quite disappointed to see it shuttered quickly. Scuttlebut around here was that the cost of the attraction was paid by Disney's DVD/home video department to support the DVD release of TS2, and once that was over, Parks and Resorts wouldn't pick up the bill. Sigh.

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