Captain EO needs to be replaced
Walt Disney World: That theater needs a new attraction (not Honey..)
Any idea?
Last time I heard anything (Oct 11), the rumors were pointing toward Wall-E.
At the current state of the rumor mill, it went very dark after that first announcement, which either means that someone is sitting on it to make a decision later, or Pixar is actively developing it.
From steve lee
Posted December 7, 2011 at 8:45 AM
Wall-E seems like a better fit for The Land pavilion than Imagination.
Honestly, the whole Imagination pavilion just needs an overhaul. I love Figment too, but that doesn't make the ride decent (and the fact that it's almost always a walk on seems to support that fact). I'm having a hard time putting a concept together, but I think the folks at Pixar have some really unique ideas on how to best cultivate imagination towards an end product. Give them a budget and let them brainstorm some ideas for how to bring Imagination back from the edge. As it stands now, that pavilion is dangerously close to reaching "Wonders of Life" levels of disinterest.
They are actually thinking about Wall-E at Tomorrowland at Disneyland....Epcot has always gotten Disneyland's leftovers so far as this theater is concerned....
Phineas and Ferb could be an interesting ride, but I think they ought to stick with WALL-E
Jim Hill not long ago said something about turning the Epcot theater into something with Dreamfinder and Figment. I think that Captain Eo was okay for a few months, but no one knows or cares about it. At least Honey filled the theater better.
Nah, Phineas and Ferb 4D would be an awful idea, since that show is highly overrated. It doesn't need to get its own show!
I don't think Phineas and Ferb are over rated, but I don't they belong there.
I LOVE Phineas and Pherb and my wife can't understand why.lol I think it would definatly fit in EPCOT the Imagination area.
Perry perry the platypus!!!!!!!
Wall-e its the best option.
No more 4D shows. 3D is over-rated (look at Toy Story... glorified Wii/ PS3 Move game). There are a few that I enjoy once a year like Muppets and A Bug's Life, but they never get me visiting every time I stop by the parks.
And as cool as Star Tours is now, I really wish it was glass-less. I don't wear glasses anymore, but some of my friends do. The glasses can be cumbersome to some people. But I'm a fan of AA's and physical actors over projections anyway.
Captain EO is outdated. It's better to have Honey than EO in the meantime.
I think it should be replaced with a film about a farmer. Captain EIEIO.
Well Dom, there actually were rumors of a Phineas and Ferb 4D at Sounds Dangerous at DHS for a while, but that seems unlikely at this point.
Mike wins!
I would have to disagree that keeping HISTA would be better than Captain EO. Despite HISTA being released later, less people know what HISTA comes from. Ask anyone who Michael Jackson is, they most likely know a little about him. As someone what "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids" is, unless they grew up or lived in the 80's, they most likely don't even know.
In this day and age, it's easier to get people to watch or ride something that has a recognizable face or relevant franchise than something like 10,000 Leagues, or Swiss Family... or everything in that Limo ride *shudder*.
That being said, I do think that EO needs to go. It was a nice tribute, but even though I'm an MJ fan, it's time to use that space in a better manner!
From Anon Mouse
Posted December 9, 2011 at 2:17 PM
The public no longer considers 3D an attraction at theme parks. Most people just skip them and this is confirmed from attendance. I skipped many 3D shows. It's time to move on from 3D. Disney hasn't done much innovation with 3D of the stationary theater version. Disney treats 3D like a gimmick. There is none of the deep storytelling that you might get from an Universal project like the Terminator or Shrek, which are lightyears better. At least you get a bit more from Universal than sit there and feel the seat shake.
They should consider a personalized multi-media experience that guests select. You sit in cars and decide what you want to see. How about a variation of the Spider-man ride experience where the emphasis isn't thrill, but an elaborate immersive video experience that is never the same twice.
Honey I Shrunk the Audience was better than Captain Eo. Having said that, it's time for a new attraction.
I wouldn't get rid of Capatin Eo.
Still P&F would fit the Imagination theme
Anon, the Universal 3D attractions are just as gimmicky as Disney's. I'm not sure there's the depth of storytelling or quality in Universal's shows that you claim Disney's lack, especially with Shrek. However, I agree that both parks need to come up with something more innovative with 3D, and so far Star Tours does that the best.
From Anon Mouse
Posted December 12, 2011 at 9:40 AM
Skipper Adam: If you want to respond, it would help to not ignore what I wrote. You didn't mention Terminator, which actually had a story and was a sequel to Terminator 2. As for Shrek, it was described as a 2.1 sequel.
Disney lacks all appearance of a storyline. Honey was a series of events that is completely centered around 3-D gimmicks. Did you notice a pattern with Honey, Bugs, and Muppets? They all have to do with putting on a show where they throw things at you. Only Captain EO has a story.
Anon, when I said "Universal's 3D films," plurality of that statement implied both films.
Muppetvision, yes, is strictly and shamelessly showing off 3D effects. However, Bugs and Honey both represented stage shows gone awry. They have a story, just not exactly like you want it, perhaps. Philharmagic has a constructed plot, a beginning, a middle and an end. It may not have an existing film narrative for background, but it too has a story. Ultimately, both parks construct their 3D movies around effects.
But you seem to have miss my point. Star Tours pretty much, or very closely, does with 3D what you said you would like to see.
From Anon Mouse
Posted December 12, 2011 at 10:48 AM
The "stage shows gone awry" is a bare minimum device for Disney to do its 3D tricks. If you want to call it a story, then no wonder I think Disney fans get the mediocrity that they deserve. Star Tours is an advance of the stimulator and I don't think it is quite the same, but nonetheless, there is an overlap with the technology.
The now closed Star Trek experience did advance the 3D theater with the Borg Invasion 4-D. Not only did it feel like you're on a ship and flying about, you were temporarily experiencing life as a Borg and almost getting assimulated before escaping. It was quite a trippy experience. Its closure means they are not enough as attractions no matter how good they are.
Regular movie theaters provide stories in 3D all the time, random camera following characters through adventures has been around since the 1950s. The stage show gone awry, though not creative to you, is a unique use of 3D to create a plausible space in the context of the experience. The depth we see just isn't depth, it's a stage, supposedly something tangible in the context of reality. It's clever really, but "mediocre" to some. I'm not saying you are wrong, but using 3D to create a stage is less common and mediocre than an unexplainable glances of voyeristic camera views that are in both Universal shows and every cinematic 3D film. Watching the story happen, with camera shots and angles emphasizing 3D effects on the screen in Terminator is a stretch when the audience is supposed to be in the middle of the story.
Personally, I think most all of the 3D films are boring.
Daniel, we'll just have to agree to disagree about the two shows. But totally 100% agree that something better has to take their place!
As for Terminator, I can't get into the show because you start out as being part of the show in a presentation, then you are only observing? And Shrek, you're not really in the show, but your seats move? Doesn't quite make sense.
I actually prefer Water World and the old Conan show. There was never a disconnect. You're part of the show in Water World (although in an odd way that doesn't quite add up story wise), and you were watching a live show with a giant dragon in Conan.
A Bug's Life works in its context.
And Muppets are just ridiculous, self deprecating, and poke fun at things all the time.
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