Disneyland To Reopen California Adventure's Buena Vista Street

Any thoughts on if DL will do the same for main street? Or would Disney just open up more of DCA if the guidelines won't change?

I don't know why Disney didn't do this two months ago when Knott's proved that it could be successful. Was there some sort of regulatory hurdle? Now please open up Main Street and the Mickey and Friends parking structure.

@Disfan, Disney's unions were the biggest obstacle. They only just recently came to an agreement regarding returning to work.

I am certain that demand on Buena Vista Street will determine if/when Main Street USA reopens under the same deal.

James, I had heard something about the unions, but thanks for confirming. If that was the case, then Disney should have been on the ball a lot sooner with the unions. But I guess that negotiating is not that simple...but it is a shame that it was what was holding it up.

Unions can be tricky. For months, while Illinois had mask mandates and customers required to wear them, it was left up to workers at my UPS whether to wear them or not. Because the union felt that making guys wear them against their choice was a violation of worker rights.

However, in the last week, the rule now is all employees have to wear masks as union realizes dangers of a spread mean better to follow state mandates. So, yes, sometimes unions can have hangups. Oh, I love working for one with its benefits but aware of the downsides it can have.

"I am certain that demand on Buena Vista Street will determine if/when Main Street USA reopens under the same deal."

That sounds like a no-brainer to me, but hopefully Disney has plans to announce Main Street soon. Believe, me people will FLOOD Main Street for a chance to be inside Disneyland even if it's only up to the hub. Oh, that is, flood up to the point of attendance restrictions, which is easy to control at the gate, unlike other places. And Mike, thanks for the insight about unions.

Disfan -- you say people will "FLOOD" main street. Your words. You even put it in all caps. We absolutely do not want anywhere to be "flooded" with people right now. Encouraging crowds to gather right as we're experiencing a huge uptick in new cases is so irresponsible.

That said, I do think California's policies are too strict and that Disney and Universal have proven that they can reopen responsibly. I've been to Florida theme parks a few times since June and I'm very impressed. I felt more safe than I do at my local grocery store, etc etc.

But please, let's not encourage any place to be "flooded" with people.

Open up, but do so responsibly. Do not encourage huge crowds to gather all at once. Space em out. Using language like that shows you don't get it.

I will say this...of all the theme parks I've visited this year, Knott's Berry Farm felt like one of the least safe due to the way it was operated. That had nothing to do with their COVID protocols, but rather was due to everyone being crammed on walkways since rides were not operating, as well as the number of people sitting around unmasked at any given time. I will also say that I felt far less safe at the Irvine Spectrum when I went in July than I have at any theme park, even a couple that are taking minimal precautions.

That said, I think this is a brilliant move by Disney. Not only does it allow them to increase the capacity of a Downtown Disney regularly maxing out on weekends and allow them to get more people back to work, it is also impossible to argue that they're open since they're not charging admission (which, from what I've heard, is something the state considers places like Knott's and SeaWorld to be). Now we just need to get those experts to see what is going on in California under their guidelines (essentially Florida minus rides), then justify why simply turning the rides on increases the risk.

85,000 new infections today, the biggest we've ever seen, deaths up 10% over the two week average. We'll soon be north of 100,000 new infections a day, the infection spreading like wildfire to kill another 200,000 Americans before spring 2021.

Meanwhile, @AJHummel : "I think this is a brilliant move by Disney" because "it allow[s] them to increase . . . capacity of a Downtown Disney [already] regularly maxing out on weekends."

Wake up, my brother.

@thecolonel No. You wake up. The death rate is not and will never be 10%. Those infection numbers you listed are across the entire country. Not just Southern California, which last I checked is the region we are discussing. Third, you continue to deny Disney’s competence in handling reopenings safely. For all the hollering you do about safety guidelines, you seem to conveniently forget to recognize when stuff like that is enforced. What is good enough for you?

"What is good enough for you?"

Something far less than the additional 200,000 dead Americans they're now predicting before February 1. the infection rate going DOWN, not UP. The death rate going DOWN not UP.

And yes, death are most definitely up 10% over the two week average, to nearly 1,000 American lives lost yesterday. Every three days is a new 9/11 and you're talking about ME waking up?

I pray no one in your family dies from your reckless, cavalier attitude.

Something to point out: Illinois had over two month shelter orders and had been handling it okay for a while. However, my county has seen a spike of 9 percent positivity rate as too many folks ignoring mask mandates, etc and gathering too much. So for at least two weeks, no more indoor dining in a couple of Illinois counties (including mine) which is a blow to those businesses.

So yes, there is further risk of opening too much and then another shutdown so little wonder California is more gun-shy about a theme park.

“Every 3 days is a new 9/11”

No. Never compare a terrorist attack on our country to an invisible, not that deadly disease ever again. There is nothing in common other than loss of life.

Not once in your response did you acknowledge the fact that parks are capable of reopening safely regardless of the situation outside. Why is this? Because it doesn’t align with your radical left political views of ‘shut everything down so absolutely no one dies.’ Get over it. I could go on about how this is necessary for humanity as a whole, but that’s a whole different discussion so I digress.

Long story short the infection and death rates have remained quite stable over the last month and both are nowhere near the level required to make your extreme measures necessary

Hear hear ............. haha, suddenly everybody 'knows' that the shopping street areas should have been opened earlier, while nobody proclaimed that before THIS article was written.... HAHA
(The best sailors are always onshore)

https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-outbreak/
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Look at dry stats, instead of having schoolboy's style quarels, people....

"Never compare a terrorist attack on our country to an invisible, not that deadly disease ever again . . ."

Imagine being so brainwashed by far-right propaganda that you believe a disease that will kill 400,000 Americans in less than a year is "not that deadly."

Just wow. We're never going to get out of this hole until we turn off Fox News and sad, deluded fools like this person can become acquainted with reality again.

Not that deadly! Why are we worried about it all! Let's all go to a rally together and not wear masks!

"Imagine being so brainwashed by far-right propaganda that you believe a disease that will kill 400,000 Americans in less than a year is "not that deadly.""

And over half a million Americans will die of some form of cancer this year, but governments have not prohibited smoking, manufacturing of known carcinogens, use of combustion engines, or forcing people to eat a specific diet of non-cancerous nutrients. Why aren't we shuttering the globe and keeping theme parks closed until cancer is cured?

Imagine being so stubborn and ignorant that you can't see the forest for the trees.

"And over half a million Americans will die of some form of cancer this year, but governments have not prohibited smoking . . "

And you, Russell, can't see the distinction between legislating lifestyle choices and protecting the public health? The government very much regulates second hand smoke, doesn't it? And why is that? Because people who choose to smoke can kill themselves all they want, but people who do NOT choose to smoke shouldn't be killed by those who do.

By direct analogy, just because the sad, deluded, Fox News Jonestown MAGA fools have been conned into ending their lives (and the lives of their loved ones) for political ends doesn't mean they should be able to take the rest of us down with them.

Man, I never thought I'd see the day where otherwise functioning Americans would rabidly argue for their right to get infected and die. Idiocy the likes of which we haven't seen in generations.

People really need to stop indulging this fool so he'll just go away.

"Because people who choose to smoke can kill themselves all they want."

"Man I never thought I'd see the day where otherwise functioning Americans would rabidly argue for their right to get infected and die."

Really? You're more than welcome to stay in your hermetically sealed hobbit hole.

Because in your fevered mind you think that smoking and getting infected with a killer virus is the same thing? Jesus.

The folks at Jonestown had more sense.

"People really need to stop indulging this fool so he'll just go away."

Is this some kinda Fox News adjunct site? I thought this was a site for people who loved theme parks, I didn't realize you had to be a science denier to pariticipate.

“I didn’t realize you had to be a science denier to participate”

We’re not denying science, we’re just not so brainwashed to believe that this virus is worth shutting the whole world down for. Go curl up in your rabbit hole, it’s hibernating season.

What a joke

Can everyone just get a room with thecolonel already.

I don't think anyone is gonna change his mind and I don't think he's gonna change any of your minds. It seems like y'all are wasting your time discussing these things that have been discussed on multiple occasions on various articles and threads.

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@Postcott - It's not about changing thecolonel's mind, because I doubt a back and forth on a theme park website is ever going to change someone's political opinion. It's about correcting the record, and ensuring those that are not as vocal or may be more persuaded by faulty logic are not erroneously led to believe hypocritical, emotional, and/or politically motivated opinions.

There will always be extremists in this world, and those that are on the fence or unaware of the full story should not be steered towards a radical view without a counterpoint to balance the argument. Anyone who is passionate about their POV is going to naturally dismiss and/or diminish facts and conditions that poke holes in their thesis, so it is important that such arguments are appropriately balanced by valid, factual retorts. While some points raised on both sides of this long-standing argument that thecolonel chooses to continually participate in (while rarely participating in any discussions or topics not related to pandemic shutdowns BTW, so take that for what you will) do feature some radically biased and erroneous statements (with occasional mudslinging), they have generally featured numerous fact-based statements and well-formed opinions that have furthered a discussion of the topics at hand. In the end, we'll never find a middle ground unless both extremes of the spectrum lay out their arguments to bear.

@Russell-

That's a good point. However I think avid readers of this site have been reading through (or perhaps passing the discussion entirely) these back and forth comments. In the beginning, it was interesting to see differing view points discussing a controversial topic that affects most of the readers on this site. However over time it just seems to all blur together and frankly, in my opinion, it's talked about on almost every article for the past few months. Both sides have stated their beliefs.

Now the thing that I'd agree with is that for the readers who are "new" to the site, they will be reading these comments and discussions for the first time. So yes, I think it's very important that people get both sides of a story in order to calculate their own beliefs.

Russell, I have been reading your comments regarding the reopening of the parks, and I have no problem with your rhetoric. I also have no problem with people who have differing opinions than me if they are being respectable. What I think I'm most tired of, are users disregarding other's statements and using unrespectable hyperbole and insults.