2009 Best Ride in America Tournament, round two: Twilight Zone Tower of Terror bracket
Welcome to the third day of the second round in the 2009 Best Ride in America tournament
on Theme Park Insider.
Yesterday, in the most heated voting of the tournament, Universal Studios Florida's Men in Black Alien Attack eliminated Disneyland's Indiana Jones Adventure. In another tight battle, Soarin' Over California from Disney's California Adventure held off SheiKra from Busch Gardens Africa. Cedar Point's Millennium Force and Expedition Everest from Disney's Animal Kingdom also advanced.
Today, top seed Twilight Zone Tower of Terror from Disney's Hollywood Studios tries to take another step toward defending its title, against Cedar Point's Maverick.
[Update: That poll's down for a bit while we deal with some obvious vote-stuffing issues.] [Update 2: It's back up now. See comments below, or this post.]
While we welcome voters from other websites, we ask you to take a look at the comments below before casting your votes. Thoughtful votes help make this a better tournament.
The last remaining Cedar Fair coasters, not from Cedar Point, square off as Kings Island's The Beast takes on Knott's Berry Farm's Xcelerator.
Next up, it's an all-Universal Orlando battle, with Revenge of the Mummy going against Dueling Dragons – Ice.
And we wrap up the day with what promises to be another heated battle, this time between beloved Disney movie franchises. It's Disneyland's Pirates of the Caribbean versus Hollywood Studios' Toy Story Midway Mania.
To the comments!
What, TH? No comment posted this morning within 30 seconds of putting up the thread?
Maverick is a thrilling and fun new roller coaster that doesn't take you to any extremes, but makes you have a good time. The ride is non-stop action never giving you a break from the fun. For those of you who have never ridden, it is one of the most exhilarating coaster I have ever been on.
Sorry Robert, I was too busy dancing to the MIB theme song:
I also forgot for those who have never been on Maverick, go youtube "maverick cedar point" and watch the POV. It really is an incredible roller coaster.
All the fight has gone out of me after losing my petition to send Everest and its non-moving Yeti to the showers yesterday. Allowing a broken attraction to advance to the Sweet 16 is a travesty. I am very disappointed in all of you! =P
Midway Mania over Pirates?
Dang! I'm sweating now!! Did you see how many comments were posted yesterday!?
Hey, if I gotta wait an hour and a half to get on a ride I want it to last more than 10 seconds. Maverick all the way. And that would mean the Beast will win over the X.
WOW, it's getting tough! What a great bracket! I picked Indy in my bracket because I thought it would get through but I am glad to see MIB get past it! GO MIB!
Wait! Thanks to James, Anthony and me, Pirates is back in the lead!! (Funny that the 3 of us posted simulataneously!!)
Sorry forgot to comment on today's brakcet! :)
Scottland/Anthony, if Pirates loses this early in the tournament I am turning in my heart-shaped TPI Badge and moving to Siberia where there are no theme parks or internet connections!
'Revenge of the Mummy' is gonna waltz into the final four. Assuming the undead dance.
Where did that final surge of votes for MIB come from this morning?
The voting is fast and furious this AM....never seen anything like it.
Not to Worry, all the Disney Fans are at pin collecting conference this morning, I'm sure by 3:00 TOT will be crushing Maverick.
There are more than 100 dimensional animated figures in 'Men In Black: Alien Attack.' Apparently a bunch of them got ahold of some lap tops this morning!
Personally, I'm glad Tower of Terror is out. I'd hate to see the same mistake made last year.
We have some obvious gaming going on in the ToT/Maverick poll. So I've pulled that one down for the time being.
When I came into work this morning...I live on the east coast...I checked the results and it had Indiana Jones the winner. How MIB WIN?
Polls close shortly after 7am Pacific Time.
Interesting...never knew anyone to cheat on this stuff before...say it ain't so, Joe!
There must have been some cheating going on with the Tower. 520 votes and I cant even vote for it!
Wow, I guess when people have to resort to "cheating" on something like this, it is time for me to bow out.
It look like word has gotten out big time to CPoint fans that Maverick is in a contest today - ( someone said it's not the most popular at CP some would disagree with that - it always has a line, - ALWAYS!)
Thanks for your reply Robert...I did not relize they closed in the morning.
Okay, I've reopened the poll.
Wow...that is awesome we got Cedar Fair's interest on our friendly neighborhood website! I am impressed they care so much!
Is it me or does anyone else picture the Cedar Point Fanboys as a bunch of angrey 17-20 year olds with Ohio State jerseys and beer bongs?
Why exactly did the Maverick/TOT voting close? I understand if you think that there are some shenanigans going on, but can you honestly say that you would close the poll if TOT was ahead by that much? I think you are underestimating the ability of the Cedar Point fanbase to mobilize. There are a few here with the ability to rally the troops.
I voted for Maverick because it is one of the new coasters that i have seen. It just adds to the amazing rides that CP already had. A day at CP isnt the same if you do not ride the Maverick. I rode it 5X on my last and I'm sure that I will ride it more this summer since i am actually working at CP. I am a CP fan through and through.
At first I wasn't sure if Cedar Point posting the link was indeed "fair game." But then Robert posted the article regarding the situation right smack on the home page.
I think with Cedar Point linking to the poll makes this just a big joke of a poll!!!!!!
Brian - I'll turn 40 this year, work as a director in the financial industry, do not drink beer, went to university in California and live all the way in the theme park wasteland of Seattle. Cedar Point is one of my absolute favorite places on the planet. If I could travel there for a week every year I would. There's more than some 17-20 year-old frat boy fans out there! ;-) GO CEDAR POINT!!
(Regarding Cedar Point fans/regulars) Hey - many of us are out of our 20s, *Many* of us are Michigan fans (yeah, there are a few buckeye fans around), and most of us drink our beer out of bottles (it tastes way better!)
Maverick is one of the best rides in the park. Maverick is non-stop fun from the time you buckle yourself in to when you get off. Even waiting in the queue is a experience. Also The Beast is the greatest wooden coaster ever built and it definitely bets Xcelerator!
To those crying about Cedar Point fans posting their opinion...get over yourselves. I for one couldn't be happier that this tournament has officially become competitive.
go maverick cedar point rocks
The fact that ICE is even COMPETITIVE with 'Revenge of the Mummy' is ridiculous.
As much of a homer as I usually am when it comes to Cedar Point, ToT is more exciting overall then Maverick. Someone mentioned that ToT is just a glorfied drop tower but that is just the thing; Disney takes time to glorify their attractions and make them unique while Cedar Point (as much as I love the place) just bulldozes trees, puts up some steel and calls it a day.
Tough one today - good to see some proper competition though!
I guess the question now becomes....Maverick or Millennium Force for the Best Ride in North America?
James - therein lies a very good question. I'll be pondering that one...
I am exhausted from yesterday and the best I can say is that my choices mirror James'.
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When the voting was temporarily shut down, I mistakenly assumed that someone was somehow cheating or something. I take back my earlier comments.
You're right DD, the more folks get involved, the better off we will all be.
Firstly, I can't believe TOT is loosing so badly! It has my vote and I would argue that it is far superior to the average ride of its type. The ride incorporates several drops, takes place indoors with the odd exciting view outside and has a great theme. The indoor queuing area is amazing and the outdoors isn't bad either. This would certainly be in my top five theme park rides. I haven't been on Maverick and wouldn't normally vote, but think TOT needs my help. I have done a bit of research on Maverick and it does look brilliant, but even if I rode I still think TOT would have the edge.
Maverick and Tower of Terror are both just plain fun rides. Nothing really special about either. Of course ToT has incredible theming, but the ride really wouldn't be anything without it. The theming plus the ride makes it fun. In Mavericks case, there is just enough theming to add something to it, and for the most part, the themeing comes from the surroundings of the ride. The railroad, trees, water hazards, Lake Erie, etc. The tunnel, and spinning through the canyons and corrals of Maverick, combined with the launch and the incredible drop puts it just above Tower of Terror.
Raul, you shouldn't stereotype, because they aren't true...although with the ADD comment, you aren't exactly breaking the one that I've heard before about snobbish Disney fans.
If you've ever shaken a can of spray paint and wondered what it's like to be the little metal ball inside the can, then Tower of Terror is the ride for you.
Well I'm glad to see that all the Cedar Point fans aren’t 17-20 year old frat boys. In all seriousness, it's very refreshing to see a non Disney ride do so well.
Mwhahahaha! The Cedar Fair Freight Train can not be stopped!
THAT IS TOTALLY UNFAIR!!!!!!!!! Seriously- Maverick? Against Tower of Terror? The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror- even the name sounds better than Maverick!!!!!!!!!!! If Cedar Point wants to play that game, then so be it. Deep down, however, Disney does, and will always, rule the theme park industry. Tower of Terror deserves a spot in the next round, and it's only because someone decided to post the poll on a differnet website that it won't??? A plain and boring roller coaster, against the life-like, incredibly detailed, high-screamin', terrorizing, twilight zoning, haunted, incredible, and outstanding Twilight Zone Tower of Terror!!!!!! The tower is in control- everyone's got to vote for it! GO DISNEY!!!!!!!!!
I find interesting the effect of the Cedar Point influx on the "downticket" races. Remember that early lead Toy Story had? Gone now.
I seriously can't believe The Tower of Terror is losing to Maverick. Although Maverick is a great coaster it's nothing in comparison to the vastly detailed Tower.
I am starting to see messages on Disney fan sites pop up about this tournament....it may not be over yet. The polls stay open until 7 AM PDT.
Have you guys been on Maverick, or even visited Cedar Point? The park is fantastic and offers so much. When you go to Cedar Point, you have fun. Pure, enjoyable, fun. No complex stories to follow or intense thinking on the guests' part. You don't have to keep track of what 'land' your in, you get to choose what type of fun you want to experience next.
Sadly, it is over James. Almost as many people have voted for Tom Cruise in this round as had voted in the final for the 2008 tournament. Robert, on the other hand, must be ecstatic. He is getting a boat load of hits.
If only the "Maverick" had gotten this much support on November 4! I kid...dont wanna start any political discussions lol
Most of us have been to all sorts of parks, Cedar Point included. Most of us even have roller coaster heavy parks in our local towns. Most of us love coasters. Those who are voting for Tower of Terror aren't doing it because they think Maverick is a lousy coaster, or that Cedar Point is a lousy park. No, those voting for ToT just like the full package of sight, sounds, and thrills offered by a fully immersive attraction (what you call "fluff"). And that's okay. You can like coasters and non-coasters. They are not mutually exclusive. You can like Disney and Cedar Point. There is nothing wrong with liking attractions at both parks. It is not like Maverick rules and ToT sucks, or vice versa. They are both excellent attractions.
Mike K, I'd hardly call the Tower's, or any other Disney attractions story complex. Neither would I say it is hard to keep track of what land your in at any theme park.
I love March Madness. I do know this too. Disney isn't the only park with multiple fansites. There is more than one "sleeping giant", as someone previously put it. Besides, I'm pretty sure that some Disney sites have been linked here for quite a while.
I had to choose Maverick -- I like it. Although it is too rough, and the restraint padding is too little, so it hurts my ears.
James I agree with what you said about our little quiet corner of the net turning into something we could never imagine. I always kinda liked that there was a small group of people contributing on here, I just hope with this influx of new faces things don't start to get ugly. Congrats to Robert for the success of this tourney.
I have nothing against Disney, or any parks for that matter. ToT is a great ride that I would never miss when I visit the Disney Parks. My basis is on which ride I would wait longer for, and Maverick takes it.
The Mummy Better then a B&M Invert, you are all crazy. It is an ok experience, but the ride itself is far from good, and without the effects and what not it would just suck. Now with Dragons you could put that ride in any park with no theme and it would be a winner!
Wow, it looks like last year's champion won't even make it to the Sweet 16. I'm certainly not complaining though, because if I think any ride has a right to outst TOT early, it's the Maverick.
I love Disney, but Maverick is just a lot more thrilling than Tower of Terror. Like one other voter stated, I would wait for hours to ride Maverick. After a couple of rides on Tower, it just loses a bit of its pizazz.
While I certainly agree that fair is fair, but a whole lot of fun has been sucked out of a tournament because a corporation is using it as an avenue for marketing.
Disney and Universal don't have time for this stuff...they are too busy running their parks and making money. Cedar Point has the day off...they're bored. And they still only mustered 1500+ votes.
TH Creative- While I agree that the Cedar Point link probably messed up the voting this round, overall I think it will be a good thing because more theme/amusement park fans will be introduced to the site and may continue to be active members after the competition. In a site where information comes from the site visitors, exposure is usually a good thing.
It might be interesting if we all had to "pre register" to be a voter for future tournaments. Kind of like the Academy for the Oscars.
Although I think it is cool Cedar Point recognized TPI, I really wish we could have not been recognized so as to see what would happen when the whole CP community comes over! I gave TOT some love as it looks like it has gotten none!
Scottland, I was thinking the same thing. Am mulling that one over for next year.
i was at cedar point the same month that the maverick opened. i got the commemorative t-shirt. the ride is incredible. nothing like it anywhere else. can't wait to go back!!
My next question is, which park will be the next to link up? Hate on Cedar Point all you want, but they A) connected their fans with the tournament, B) generated increased interest in their park, and C) demonstrated to people on this site that they exist, and exist big.
Hey all, first I've ever seen this website, and I'm one of those CP fans who was called over by the posting on the CP website. Sorry if that bothers any of you! :)
One of the
I would NEVER want to change ANYTHING about this tournament that would undermine Mr. Niles' success. His commitment to this site has been extraordinary. It is a source of entertainment -- the same as a favorite television show or film. I appreciate his effort.
I know I may sound a little bitter as Tower is getting beaten but the link posted to the CP fan site seems to basically say 'Vote for any Cedar Fair attraction you can, we need to beat Disney'.
Maverick dominates Tower of Terror if you're a thrill ride enthusiast. I don't understand how Tower of Terror could have won last year over all the amazing coasters in the bracket. I would personally take Millennium Force over any other ride in this bracket because it is literally the best coaster on the planet. The Superman coaster that always gets first for the Golden Ticket Awards is nothing compared the the Cedar Point's monster.
ROTM making a comeback....keep it up gang...at least in this battle the better attraction should win!
My apologies James for the return of Jake Rivers. Note to Jake (and anyone else new)...your opinion will never be appreciated here unless it is conveyed with a little respect and some intellegence.
Just for information, Maverick was designed and originally was 48", Intamin changed the recommendation and Cedar Point followed that recommendation to change the minimum height to 52". My son is looking forward to riding it for the first time this year.
Thanks, Derek, but I think Jake has already been silenced. Mr. Niles Rules!
I think I'm a bit puzzled why it is surprising to so many of those commenting that any ride of the caliber of Maverick should be questioned because it is winning. ToT is a very good ride, but I know many people who don't even put it in their top ten. I'm just excited that there are more people who are voting. IMO it adds more of a balance and doesn't change in any way the validity of the contest.
2800 votes and nearing 100 comments....unreal. My congrats again on the success of this tournament.
I just don't get how DD-Ice is hanging with The Mummy. I am a huge IOA fan, but there is no question that the Mummy is the better all around attraction. You understand you are just voting for the ICE layout, right? Not both FIRE and ICE...
This round has me longing for the good old simpler days of the Disney vs. Universal debate...
ToT losing? What has this world come to? I really have lost faith in the voting for these rides. Isn't it weird that there is SO many more votes for that grouping than others.
I read about the poll from the Cedar Point Facebook. I'm a huge Disney fan (I was at Disneyland last weekend for my birthday) but I had to vote for Maverick. Hands down. ToT is amazingly themed and has spectacular effects (at least at WDW, DL not so much) but Maverick is a real thrill.
Anthony, where have you been all day? Been busy around here - lots of interesting stuff. You picked the wrong day to have a life!
Sorry...I just can't stop posting...I want to be #100!!! Arrgh...wife wants to watch Terminator/Dollhouse. Shucks guys, I gotta go! See you tomorrow!
So get this, I wake up early, vote early with nothing going strangely wrong. Check out my comment in the morning, I only talk about how Ice is close to the Mummy. I had to help with the Green celebration at the Disney Stores. Check them out in april! !
Joshua - you just gave me the best belly laugh! I truly thought Jake was back!!
If the Mummy loses I swear that I won't be back...until tomorrow.
Josh...I almost asked Robert to cancel my account over your stunt! Oh, well, consider me duped twice yesterday! Once by a corporate sponsorship that led to stuffed ballots, and the second time by a fake Jake.
Mummy losing is actually a good thing (although it is just flat out wrong). Now the THEME PARK vote won't be split between Pirates and Mummy, so Pirates will skate into the final four with Maverick (presuming ballot stuffing helps it beat The Beast...which should NEVER happen). Either way it will be Disney vs Cedar Fair again. It will be fun to see if more corporate sponsorships come out for that battle or if only Cedar Fair will represent.
What a day! I was stuck in meetings all day and missed the action! This tourney rocks! :D
This is great. I'm going to have a tough time air time (Maverick) vs fun (Beast) in the next round.
Im completely shocked Tower of Terror went down to a Cedar Fair ride.
I wouldn't be so sure about Maverick beating Beast. Cedar Point fans weren't the only ones informed about this tournament....
Shock horror!!! Tower of Terror is out!! Definetely didn't see that one coming!
wow, i didn't see tower of terror going so quick, they needed to make the pairings different to start because maverick and cedar point are amazing as well as Disney. For best rides head to Cedar Point but for overall vacation do Disney, I have been to Disney 6 times and live in Ohio so I am not just making up B.S. either.
Maverick kills all other votes. The rush of the coaster flying past low-ground bends and all the airtime is amazing! I even say Maverick is better than Millennium Force!
The Beast is not very fun and has few elements that are even remotely close to exciting. The best element it has is the double helix, but it is so rough its hard to enjoy. Maverick is non stop fun. If you have not had a chance to ride it, I suggest you make your way to CP. I also believe that Maverick is a better ride than Millennium Force.
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