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Robert Niles

Looking Ahead to the Next Great Transformation in the Theme Park Industry

Published: November 21, 2014 at 9:05 AM

ORLANDO — If the annual IAAPA Legends panel looks back at the transformative moments in the industry's past, the Future Legends panel faces a much more difficult task — to look for emerging moments that will become transformative for the future.

As a result, while the Legends panel evokes laughter and thoughtful reflection, the Future Legends panel is much more provocative, challenging the audience with glimpses of emerging technology and techniques that might prove to be nothing more than passing fads... or might just become the next great disruption in the themed entertainment industry.

So, if after the Legends panel you'll want to queue to be awed by the big names in the attraction design business sitting on a dais above you as they sign a book or expo program, after the Future Legends panel you'll want to rush up to these panelists who'll be standing in the hallway with you to start arguing about and diving into everything they just said.

Future Legends panelists
Christian Lachel, Vice President and Senior Creative Director at BRC Imagination Arts; Clara Rice, Director, Digital Engagement & Media Relations at Jack Rouse Associates; John Paul Geurts, VP/Creative Director at Nickelodeon; Steve Trowbridge, Principal at Rhetroactive, Inc.

A few of the provocative questions raised during the panel yesterday:

Should, or can, parks develop their own IP [intellectual property]?

John Paul Geurts: "Before we got into the licensing business, there wasn't a lot of IP out there, so parks generated their own IP and created these wonderful lovable characters. So the question out there is: is that going to [come back], or is the shift toward IP going to continue? ...Can we exist without it and be generic -- Adventureland? -- or do we need to continue to bring the guests something that they are already familiar with?"

Steve Trowbridge: "If you're going to do it, an IP has to be used authentically. The attraction and the story that you create around it has to be authentic. When licensing and IP go wrong is when you slap SpongeBob on the front of some totally unrelated thing. If I can't tell a story around an IP, then we shouldn't be using it."

Christian Lachel: "I did an article in Attractions Management [PDF, skip to page 76] on this exact issue. I think it's at a crossroads right now. Everyone wants to run out and buy the latest thing, but I do worry about the sense of IP versus originality. I think there's space for both. There are certain IPs that have longevity and have the deep resonance with visitors -- there's an emotional connection. There are sort of those super IPs: the Potters and someone eventually will do Lord of the Rings. I think there's a deep, long, multi-generational affinity [for them]. I think the challenge is with just slapping the IP on, or something that doesn't have the legs or the longevity. ...I would like to see a bit more originality. Each place has a unique story."

John Paul Geurts: "The trend in our office is to take the characters and give them a reason to be there. We're always talking about story and why is this collection of characters with you? They don't always have to stay in their own world: Is SpongeBob really in Bikini Bottom, or is he there on that adventure with you? It's a creative conversation that happens on a daily basis for us. But we like to see our characters now really just come play in the environment. Whether they are at the beach, or playing pirate, or whatever, they do the same things that you or I would do. That allows us not just to create a fun piece of entertainment, but to layer the entertainment. It gives us a lot more freedom with the IP."

Clara Rice: "People think of 'being on mission' as a museum thing, but I think that for theme parks it's just as important to be on mission. We worked with a client where we helped them develop their own characters that go through their own land, that became character plush, that become part of their identity. So for your audience, that can be just as successful as having paid [IP] characters."

Steve Trowbridge: "That approach is ultimately, long-term, much more financially successful."

Clara Rice: "You don't have to pay licensing fees!"

"Have we reached Peak 4D?"

Steve Trowbridge: "Getting beyond 4D is about bringing back real dimension. The fifth dimension is actually the first two or three. ...I think the possibilities are down the road, in the next several years, when we can create physical sets that have image map projection over them. Now we can change entire rooms. So the 4D theater, even if you are in this singular space, can actually morph and push around you to create whole new environments. The one advantage of a 3D theater is that it is relatively compact, versus a dark ride, which needs many, many thousands more square feet of space. We can create entirely new sets and entirely new rooms [using projection mapping]. ...One thing I'd like to see us do better [in 4D] is, the same effects are being used over and over again. I'm taken completely out of the story when I can hear that set cannon fire up, or when I can hear a fan preparing to produce an effect on me. So when we talk about getting beyond 4D and bringing dimensionality back, when you think about your most beloved attractions, even the new ones that use digital media, it's because they have been well integrated. Effects are used to further a story, not just because I wanted to make bubbles come out of the ceiling."

Christian Lachel: "It's really about getting back to a sense of magic."

Steve Trowbridge: "Everyone has a giant screen in their house. Everyone can watch 3D at home. I think when we are working in our space, we need to do things that you cannot see [at home]. These are floating magical lanterns, or these are walls that move, or these are animatronics that speak to me. These are things I can't do at home. That's what is magical about them."

Clara Rice: "I think folks are catching on. When you look at Disney and their three patents for drones, they are catching on that, for their live shows, they need to break out their box."

John Paul Geurts: "What we see are people coming to us looking for ways to augment their 4D experience. Do you marry that with the virtual actor technology, similar to the Hershey experience? We are working on a similar project right now that will be that next version of the virtual actor combing the 4D experience. But, I agree... it's a challenging medium and how do you take it to the next level? Quite honestly, the new ride at Diagon Alley does a fantastic job of giving you a 4D experience on a ride track, which, obviously, is expensive, but at the same time, highly successful in terms of transforming the space using virtual and the real."

We now can quantify people's emotional reactions using facial recognition software. But should we? And to what end?

Check this out:

Christian Lachel: "We've always talked about that hero's journey, or that arc of emotion -- now you can see it. You can track it. ...Obviously the issue that we have is privacy, opting it, but there are some interesting ways to apply this."

Steve Trowbridge: "Well, it kind of freaks me out." [Laughter]

John Paul Geurts: "Where I struggle with the technology is that it is great from a research stand-point. But I don't see how that comes forward and enhances our storytelling or enhances the theatricality of our projects."

Steve Trowbridge: "I think this has more [potential] in a museum or educational experience, where you have a one-on-one and you can tailor or change content. But how do take an entire group of people [as in a theme park attraction]? Maybe if we go the Hershey example, and crowdsource it -- to get a group feeling of the room, maybe that would select a branch [to follow]. ...If you're in a bad mood, and I'm in a great mood, and we're sitting next to each other, we're still watching the same screen, right? I think the more one-on-one, museum-type experiences, have more potential."

Clara Rice: "It's a question of giving people rewards for what they are willing to divulge."

What do you think about these issues? What do you think will be the next great transformational technology or technique in the themed entertainment industry? Let's continue the conversation in the comments.


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Robert Niles

Disney Springs Construction Update

Published: November 20, 2014 at 10:12 AM

ORLANDO — Works continues on Downtown Disney's transformation to Disney Springs, the expanded and refurbished shopping and entertainment district scheduled for a spring 2016 opening. The West Side parking garage opened to guests this morning, though the planned new freeway access ramps are far from completed.

We mentioned in our Fulton's Crab House review yesterday that much of Downtown Disney has become a forest of construction walls, disrupting many of the previous pathways from the West Side to the Marketplace.

The heart of Disney Springs is the old Pleasure Island district, and the new "Springs Bottling Co." sign has gone up over the old Mannequins dance club warehouse. The building will be the home of the new Morimoto Asia restaurant.

Another of the new restaurants in Disney Springs will be The Boathouse, here under construction.

You can see a sample of the look of Disney Springs in this completed section behind Cookes and Raglan Road.

Progress continues on the new walkway across the lagoon, which will provide a shortcut from one end of the Marketplace to the other.

Don't know if the new pathway will make much of a difference for this resident!


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11 Things You Might Not Have Known About Disney and the 1964 New York World's Fair

Published: November 19, 2014 at 9:23 PM

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Where to Eat: Lunch at Fulton's Crab House at Walt Disney World

Published: November 19, 2014 at 11:42 AM

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Coming Attractions, at IAAPA 2014 in Orlando

Published: November 18, 2014 at 5:48 PM

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Universal's Diagon Alley Leads the 21st Annual Thea Awards

Published: November 18, 2014 at 12:30 PM

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First Look at Six Flags' Justice League: Battle for Metropolis

Published: November 18, 2014 at 11:29 AM

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Disneyland to Close Its Mad T Party November 30

Published: November 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM

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Monday Top 10: The World's Best Shooter Rides

Published: November 17, 2014 at 5:29 AM

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Meet the Team Behind the NoLimits 2 Roller Coaster Simulator

Published: November 16, 2014 at 9:12 PM

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Published: November 14, 2014 at 10:10 AM

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